The Official Emotiva Q&A thread

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by bigred7078

A voltmeter

Originally Posted by red_5ive

True, I was going to recommend the same, but I think in this case "I'd rather hear it to believe it." But that's just me.

Which is better? and where or what kind of a voltmeter? I will pick one up from radioshack before i go home or bestbuy or where ever.

[red_5ive]

Originally Posted by HAMP

Which is better? and where or what kind of a voltmeter? I will pick one up from radioshack before i go home or bestbuy or where ever.

Personally if it were up to me I'd just hook up the 805 to the Denon (providing the Denon has a multi-channel input). I know myself enough that even if I took a reading, good or bad, I would still hook it all up this way just to confirm what it sounds like.

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by red_5ive

Personally if it were up to me I'd just hook up the 805 to the Denon (providing the Denon has a multi-channel input). I know myself enough that even if I took a reading, good or bad, I would still hook it all up this way just to confirm what it sounds like.

Ok, I'm gonna hate this, but it will not be tonight....

[PitbullMike]

Originally Posted by red_5ive

Personally if it were up to me I'd just hook up the 805 to the Denon (providing the Denon has a multi-channel input). I know myself enough that even if I took a reading, good or bad, I would still hook it all up this way just to confirm what it sounds like.

+1

[mdabb]

Hamp, just give the amp a little time to break in. A lot of times people are displeased with how a new piece of gear sounds. What matters most is that the Emo amp is a better quality amp than what is in the Onkyo.

I own a 875 and the pre-amp output voltage has to be lower than normal because I wasn't happy with the initial results I got when I first hooked up my amp. Took me some time playing around to achieve satisfaction.

Heck I could hook up a Lamm to my Onkyo and I will still never be pleased with the results I get. But, that is my personal feelings though.

If you only do home theater, your receiver may be all that you need for your speakers since they are highly efficient. If you do any critical music listening......... Look for a better "quality per watt" low powered amp.

Just give it a few days of break-in though !!!

[joepocket]

Originally Posted by bigred7078

Improve? No, especially if your main use is HT.

Originally Posted by seanfarley2

Hamp and Joe....what it seems to amount to....to notice a difference with an amp...you'll need new speakers. I'd suggest saving up the money you would spend on an amp and put it towards better speakers...get an amp later down the road.

thanks bigred and sean for the input...
I actually also have a 5.1 Energy Take series Speaker set with 2 TWRs and 3 FPSs... I've been on the fence about keeping these or the Mirage speakers b/c I am using them in a medium to small size room... would my listening experience be better with the Energy set?... and would the UPA-7 improve the sound quality of the Energy set as well... thanks to everyone for all the info... learning a lot from all the posts...

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by HAMP

There is nothing wrong with my speakers they sound fine. There is nothing wrong with my receiver it plays fine.

I added a new component into the mix and then it all got worst. I don't play my equipment to make a person go deaf, I have two subs and I have them both turned down less then half way.

I know what distortion sounds like and I don't have mine even close to getting that way.

The customer service guy from emo asked me to turn the gains up talking about that will help, and it sounded real bad at that point. Turning gains up will distort

The bottom line is that this emo amp is producing less then the receiver and I have to turn up the receiver to get the sound close to what it was before, c'mon what is that saying to you?

I will say it again "I have to turn up the volume of the receiver to get it CLOSE to the same level as before".... That statement is not saying I want it loud and louder is better "I have to turn up the volume on the receiver to get it close to the same volume as before"

I really hope the people on this site don't or are not bashing me because of my decision in speakers or because of the receiver I have.

Even if I have the worst speakers that could be bought or even the worst receiver possible, things got WORST when I added the amp.

Talking with Dan from EMO, they feel it's not the amp and it's not possible to have gotten a bad amp. I'm thinking "WoW is your stuff that great it’s just not possible"?

I'm not bashing them and I don't want to be bashed, I'm just telling what happened and I also want to know what the issue is.

Oh, I forgot something to add into this whole mix of things.

The amp was a B-stock and I was NOT the first person to return it, so something besides my low grade speakers and bad receiver is going on here.

i think at this point you should just return the amp. i will say that "forgetting" to mention that this is a "b-stock" amp is your fault. we've been on this wild goose chase all this time and you forgot to mention this until now? that should have been the first thing you mentioned in the first post. we've been trying to help you figure this thing out for a couple of days and now only in the emotional heat of things does this come out. return the amp, get your money back and stay with the Onkyo receiver. Next time you decide to get an amp upgrade and i don't care who makes it either, if you get a "b-stock" or a refurbished one don't forget to mention that on the first post if your having problems with that. more than 85% of the folks would have told you to send it back. we were under the impression that you had a brand new unit, not a used or refurbished or previously owned and resold unit but a brand new one. that is one of the reasons we were going the route we went. to help us help you and ultimately help ourselves, don't leave out information as important to our diagnosis as that. You've got well matched speakers for your receiver to save yourself some headache return the amp and just stick with what you've got.

[Animo]

Solarrdadd,

being a B-sock unit shouldn't really make a difference as it is usually standard policy for a company (not just Emotiva) to thoroughly go over any item that has been returned, and then resold, with a fine tooth comb. I bought a B-stock Outlaw 970, and have had no issues to speak of. But, if Hamp is not happy with the unit, Emotiva policy states, they will take back any product within the 30 day period, "NO QUESTIONS ASKED".

Secondly, this thread topic is also going on at the Emotiva Lounge, and many of the same answers that have been given here, are the same as they are being given there. The most predominant answer seems to be the possibility of low voltage on the Onkyo pre amp outputs.

[SeanMF]

Originally Posted by joepocket

thanks bigred and sean for the input...
I actually also have a 5.1 Energy Take series Speaker set with 2 TWRs and 3 FPSs... I've been on the fence about keeping these or the Mirage speakers b/c I am using them in a medium to small size room... would my listening experience be better with the Energy set?... and would the UPA-7 improve the sound quality of the Energy set as well... thanks to everyone for all the info... learning a lot from all the posts...

I would say you probably won't notice difference with energy set either. Not sure though as I'm not familiar with energy 5.1 set u speak of.

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by Animo

Solarrdadd,

being a B-sock unit shouldn't really make a difference as it is usually standard policy for a company (not just Emotiva) to thoroughly go over any item that has been returned, and then resold, with a fine tooth comb. I bought a B-stock Outlaw 970, and have had no issues to speak of. But, if Hamp is not happy with the unit, Emotiva policy states, they will take back any product within the 30 day period, "NO QUESTIONS ASKED".

Secondly, this thread topic is also going on at the Emotiva Lounge, and many of the same answers that have been given here, are the same as they are being given there. The most predominant answer seems to be the possibility of low voltage on the Onkyo pre amp outputs.

Oh I hear ya Animo, I didn't say there was anything wrong with "b-stock" units, i said that should have been in the very first post days ago, not while he was giving the angry speech to us and it just happened to come up as a oh yeah, by the way kinda thing. that's what got to me. i've seen it happen before threads going on for days then someone mentions something that would have helped all of us banging our heads against the wall try to help a long time ago with our thinking. i do hope he and everyone on this site who as for help is able to be helped but if there is anything at all they know about the unit or their situation, that information should be given at the begining not matter what.

[blu_world]

i was just reading thou the entire issue with the new amp & the efficient horn speakers...


i don't think the speakers could benefit too great if your running into a problem of the Onkyo being louder then the brand new amp you just dropped money on ,If your own ear's are telling you the Stock receiver is louder...I'd def return it if your unhappy with the results..


horn speakers are so efficient the impressive sound volumes from a normal Receiver alone is good enough,IMO....the main reason most people buy horn speakers is that they won't have to worry about Power Hungry speakers & mess with a any pre-amp's


But i do find it strange you did not notice any bass improvements with F-2 floor speakers on the new pre-amp,it should at least make more of a clean output of bass with the Two 6.5' woofer's on duty...

[HAMP]

Hey everyone
This is not a joke!!!
I came home from class
and
Some People
Broke into my apartment
and
STOLE
EVERYTHING!!!!!

This is serious, I mean the low life no good people, stole all of my stuff, and stole things that didn't make any sense.

[MAL01]

Originally Posted by HAMP

Hey everyone
This is not a joke!!!
I came home from class
and
Some People
Broke into my apartment
and
STOLE
EVERYTHING!!!!!

This is serious, I mean the low life no good people, stole all of my stuff, and stole things that didn't make any sense.

This Sucks Hamp.
Call the cops. Did you have insurance? Pieces of Sh$$t!!!

[PitbullMike]

Originally Posted by HAMP

Hey everyone
This is not a joke!!!
I came home from class
and
Some People
Broke into my apartment
and
STOLE
EVERYTHING!!!!!

This is serious, I mean the low life no good people, stole all of my stuff, and stole things that didn't make any sense.

I have a hard time believing this but if its true I am very sorry man.Did they steal all your home theater gear?

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by PitbullMike

I have a hard time believing this but if its true I am very sorry man.Did they steal all your home theater gear?

Maybe they will return the Emotiva amp since it suxs JK JK I am very sorry thou

it's true, very true... I created a thread in the home theater and I don't even know why.... more info...

sometimes a good joke is need, but not now, I'm all screwwed up in the head

and yes it is true.

[PitbullMike]

Originally Posted by HAMP

it's true, very true... I created a thread in the home theater and I don't even know why.... more info...

sometimes a good joke is need, but not now, I'm all screwwed up in the head

and yes it is true.

Where is the thread located?

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by PitbullMike

Where is the thread located?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=114349

[PitbullMike]

Originally Posted by HAMP

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=114349

Thanks man,again sorry for what happened and I hope you get everything back

Ive never had my HT stuffed jacked but I have had my expensive car audio stolen so I know how you feel.The police wont do anything about it.Id just hit every pawn shop around and tell em a list of all the gear that was stolen.The Emotiva amp should be the easiest,Also check out craigslist to see if any of ur gear shows up there.

[bigred7078]

Originally Posted by HAMP

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=114349

wow that sucks man, hope you get it resolved.

[solarrdadd]

i saw this in the emo lounge so, it's better late than never:

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Cables are here! There is barely any room to move through the warehouse!


Some have already ordered cables, and hopefully, some of you will now.

We DO have specs coming on the cables, and are just waiting for the list from specs from our manufacturer. We will also have some cross-section illustrations showing how the cables are made. We hope to have all this info available in the next few days.

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again, i'll be happier when i see it's actually up on the site, but it looks like good news, and of course its from Big Dann G.! I would expect it to be up on the site by Monday or Tuesday of next week, maybe sooner if they really want to make me happy!