Disney+ Streaming Service

[saprano]

Are 4K movies being downscaled from 1080p devices, or do they have their own 1080p streams? Not really a fan of HDR to SDR conversions.

Also i've noticed the XB1s looks better than the PS4 with Disney plus. Any reason for this? It's a bit sharper and you can notice how cleaner it is. One obvious tell is the bars on scope movies. The PS4 renders the edges softer, similar to what happens if a movie is lower resolution. The XB1s is sharper and defined. How it should be if a movie is native resolution.

I remember that the XB1s has a automatic sharpning scaler. Could it be that?

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

if you had a UHD player that has an HDMI input (not to be confused with UHD players with dual outputs like the one you mention, i.e. Oppo 20x) or xbox one you should be able to plug your fire stick into that and your good to go.

The XBox One/S/X HDMI input is 1080p only, 5.1 Surround only. It won’t accept or pass 4K, HDR/DV, or Atmos.

[Spartan21]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

As a major gripe, It's beyond annoying that Disney has release the MCU movies in HDR10 for the disks but have released the MCU movies on digital in Dolby Vision. That's almost having an agenda. I have Black Panther in Dolby Vision (no idea why that one slipped through the next) and, for me, the colours pop more on that movie than its HDR10 siblings. Disney are seriously annoying.

If you have proper dynamic tone mapping, such as madVR, you can get HDR10 4K discs to look just as good (or better) as Dolby Vision. But you need a dedicated computer with a good video card to use madVR. The software itself is free, but you need the computer hardware.

In other words, there are ways to say FU to Disney. You just have to be technology saavy.

[filmbuffTX]

Originally Posted by PoorCampBlu

Mill Creek has the rights currently (series and most of the movies(?)) and is available on dvd. "Hey Vern, It's Holidays" is also available as a special feature on 'Christmas Cartoon Collection' and 'Halloween Cartoon Collection'

'Ernest Saves Christmas' is available for free watch on vudu or $5.99 dvd from Amazon (looks like Touchstone (disney) has it and not Mill Creek)

My 333th post

Mill Creek had a licensing deal with Disney for movies in the Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures libraries, but that deal is over. Most if not all of the Ernest movies on Blu-ray are out of print. Kino now has the deal and has re-released some movies that Mill Creek previously released like Camp Nowhere and My Father The Hero. I’m not sure if that deal precludes Disney from streaming the films.

The series “Hey Vern, It’s Ernest” wasn’t produced by Disney, but DIC Entertainment, which was folded into Cookie Jar Entertainment, which was then bought up by WildBrain out of Canada. They are one of the largest holders of children’s entertainment in the world.

They definitely should add the Ernest films to the service as soon as they can. Maybe they’re saving the Touchstone/Hollywood Pictures stuff for Hulu. Ernest Saves Christmas on DVD is non-anamorphic and looks bad. The other three relevant films: Ernest Goes to Camp, Ernest Goes to Jail, and Ernest Scared Stupid I’m glad to have on Blu-ray.

There were a few later direct to video Ernest films that Disney had no involvement in (Goes to Africa, Goes to School, etc). I’ve never seen those and I act like they don’t exist.

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

The XBox One/S/X HDMI input is 1080p only, 5.1 Surround only. It won’t accept or pass 4K, HDR/DV, or Atmos.

ok, didn't know that as i don't have anything connected to the input; good to know. is that true of the xbox one X?

[punisher]

Originally Posted by trevrox

Ooh, I will have to check that out when I get home. I have two UHD players so hopefully one of them has it. Thanks

I did just read somewhere that there is no Atmos support for D+ coming to firestick though. Is that true? Do I need to switch to a Roku if I want atmos?

I get Atmos on my Lg Oled C7..but not on my newer E8..go figure...both via the Firestick directly into the tv's.

[rocklobster]

I think I've seen this around the web since yesterday (but haven't been able to get into this thread since mid-afternoon Tuesday).

But it appears there's no "Continue Watching" area. Some say there was such an area when the service first launched, but it was taken off at some point on Tuesday. So I noticed that when my wife & I went back to finish a movie last night that we started on Tuesday night. And we found that not only was there no "Continue Watching" section, but the app didn't save where we stopped the previous night, and when we FFWD, it buffered out, so we had to do the 15 sec jump until we found our spot.

Little things like that will cause some customer dissatisfaction, since those are pretty standard features among streaming services.

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

ok, didn't know that as i don't have anything connected to the input; good to know. is that true of the xbox one X?

Yes, all XBox Ones.

[jmspls72]

On third day I’m still receiving contact customer service message when I login. Is there a fix that will allow me to log in without any problem. Thanks for the help.

[trevrox]

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

right now, that's a big issue with D+, i'd say almost nobody has ATMOS from any platform perhaps other than ATV4K or so they keep saying that they do. i think it's a D+ issue and hopefully they will resolve it. they are dealing with a lot is issues, but, i think they are also addressing them, first, i'm sure, they want to get everybody connected and able to view with little or no issues on their end. then i suspect they will deal with the audio issues.

the second i'm getting ATMOS via D+ from one of my 2 TCL Roku 4K tv's i'll post it here.

Gotcha. I thought they were saying there is no Atmos coming to the Fire stick even once they solve the issues on their end.

[kwr212]

Originally Posted by bsfunk

Which of the old disney afternoon cartoons and marvel cartoons are in hd? I'm assuming it's only the ones that have already been available on itunes and amazon like Goof Troop, Chip and Dale, and Little Mermaid. How about X-men, Silver Surfer, New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, and Gummi Bears?

I haven’t checked everything in your list, but I did check the following:
HD: The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (original aspect ratio, looks sharp with film grain and some dust on the images). Chip and Dale (cropped. Looks like some mild DNR).
SD upscales (all original aspect ratios): X-Men, Gummi Bears, Spider-Man ‘94, Darkwing Duck

[KingOfTheBeasties]

Originally Posted by kwr212

I haven’t checked everything in your list, but I did check the following:
HD: The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (original aspect ratio, looks sharp with film grain and some dust on the images). Chip and Dale (cropped. Looks like some mild DNR).
SD upscales (all original aspect ratios): X-Men, Gummi Bears, Spider-Man ‘94, Darkwing Duck

It seems like most of the early episodes of New Adventures are in a proper remastered HD, and the rest are all upscaled clean 480p copies. Still looks loads better than other releases (or lack thereof) and is now widely available.

[solarrdadd]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

Yes, all XBox Ones.

well, that's a double suck and not the good kind either!

[bhampton]

I haven't done my free trail of Disney+ yet.

But, I did just pick up the new live action versions of Dumbo, Aladdin, and Lion King on Blu Ray from my local library.

I'm glad my local library has an extensive Disney Blu Ray collection. I think they have most of what I don't.

-Brian

[disneywildcat]

Originally Posted by trevrox

Ooh, I will have to check that out when I get home. I have two UHD players so hopefully one of them has it. Thanks

I did just read somewhere that there is no Atmos support for D+ coming to firestick though. Is that true? Do I need to switch to a Roku if I want atmos?

Originally Posted by solarrdadd

right now, that's a big issue with D+, i'd say almost nobody has ATMOS from any platform perhaps other than ATV4K or so they keep saying that they do. i think it's a D+ issue and hopefully they will resolve it. they are dealing with a lot is issues, but, i think they are also addressing them, first, i'm sure, they want to get everybody connected and able to view with little or no issues on their end. then i suspect they will deal with the audio issues.

the second i'm getting ATMOS via D+ from one of my 2 TCL Roku 4K tv's i'll post it here.

I've pretty sure over the past few days I am getting Dolby Atmos on supported content from Disney+ via the Roku Ultra (2018) when directly connected to my LG SKC9Y soundbar, as the soundbar detects it as Dolby Atmos when I watching A New Hope and The Force Awakens on Disney+.

It did not detect Dolby Atmos (only Dolby Audio) when I used Disney+ while my Roku Ultra was directly connected to the TV. So currently the Disney+ app on Roku does not appear to be capable of sending Atmos from a Roku device through ARC. Hence why you can't use Disney+ on Roku TV to get Atmos (as Roku TVs can only use ARC for Atmos).

The Disney+ app on Fire TV Stick 4K currenly only delivers Dolby Vision (when supported), and (unlike the Disney+ app on Roku) does not list Atmos on any of the films which Disney+ has Atmos available.

[Leonidas King]

It's a bit strange they wouldn't have Toy Story 4 on there when they have all three of them and even have the Forky and Ham's animated short which is associated to part 4.

I know it released recently but still.

[disneywildcat]

Originally Posted by Leonidas_King

It's a bit strange they wouldn't have Toy Story 4 on there when they have all three of them and even have the Forky and Ham's animated short which is associated to part 4.

I know it released recently but still.

It's not on there due to its recent home media release last month, as there will still be a exclusive home media window for new films. It will be on Disney+ early next year.

[filmbuffTX]

Originally Posted by Leonidas_King

It's a bit strange they wouldn't have Toy Story 4 on there when they have all three of them and even have the Forky and Ham's animated short which is associated to part 4.

I know it released recently but still.

They could have done that as a one time thing to help promote the new service, but there definitely should be a several month buffer between the home video release and the title showing up on the streaming service. I assume they still want people to buy the discs...

[disneywildcat]

Originally Posted by Ender14

So it appears there may be issues. I tried restarting the Fire Stick, clearing the cache for Disney+ and even re-installing the app. Nothing seems to work. I have it plugged into an HDMI switch, but as I said, Netflix and other services with Dolby Vision work fine in that configuration. Thanks for the info.

Last month, I tried using Fire TV Stick 4K with HDMI switch to soundbar to TV. It wouldn't send 4K/DV to my TV. So I've only had success using the Fire TV Stick 4K with HDMI switch to TV or direct connection to TV.

[Leonidas King]

Originally Posted by disneywildcat

It's not on there due to its recent home media release last month, as there will still be a exclusive home media window for new films. It will be on Disney+ early next year.

Originally Posted by filmbuffTX

They could have done that as a one time thing to help promote the new service, but there definitely should be a several month buffer between the home video release and the title showing up on the streaming service. I assume they still want people to buy the discs...

Yeah, I get all of that but they did include a short associated to Part 4 "Forky Asks a Question"

"Kids and Grown ups Alike Asks Where is Part 4"