Tron: Legacy 4K UHD Atmos (2010) Pre-order

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by ImBlu_DaBaDee

There is no way Amazon is going to fulfill all these orders. Most of us don’t even have a delivery date of any kind. My MU order was never cancelled so I’m hoping that’s ultimately the one I get and I can just cancel Amazon because even if they ever do actually ship these out I’m assuming it will be “expected between October 29 and February 17” or something lol.

Same. I think we’ll be ok with our MU orders. Amazon will be a crapshoot. I am amazed they’re still taking orders.

[Seth Woodiwiss]

We won't see these Trin steelbooks until the end of the month if we're lucky and that's the ones who got their pre-order in early. The rest of us will just have to wait until ..........

[TheWalkingDead]

Amazon is allowing you to add 1000 in your cart and checkout. They are obviously overselling. Hope it does not get cancelled or infinite backorder.. Out of the non-US standard releases, which country would be the cheapest to order from if being shipped to the US?

[backwater]

Originally Posted by TheWalkingDead

Out of the non-US standard releases, which country would be the cheapest to order from if being shipped to the US?

Surely the UK edition which is available from Orbit, Diabolik, etc.

[Ray O. Blu]

Originally Posted by Seth Woodiwiss

We won't see these Trin steelbooks until the end of the month if we're lucky and that's the ones who got their pre-order in early. The rest of us will just have to wait until ..........

Unfortunately, Amazon doesn't typically prescribe to the "first come, first served" model. I don't think there any rhyme or reason to their fulfillment process.

[MarWellie]

I checked the updated HD version I have on iTunes, and I don't see any differences in the de-aging effects, even though they said there would be touch-ups. I don't know what's going on.

[sojrner]

Originally Posted by SCS_Shoug

[Show spoiler]Same cinematographer and director as F1 and Top Gun Maverick which both had fairly reserved HDR grades (Maverick I know for a fact never even passes 560something nits), 2010s movie heavy on digital effects and cameras. It's gonna be all about the compression and WCG. Love me some "pop" when the movie is made for it end-to-end

but if it doesn't need to be there and is still within the artist's intent, I could care less.

[Show spoiler]Plus even with 200 nit highlights there's still room for highlight detail and contrast improvements. Nit measurements without consideration for artistic intent (hasty Cameron SDR conversions and general botches notwithstanding) have rotted some peoples' brains in the same way as "static vs dynamic" Atmos arguments, and this comes from someone who revels in the analysis of both. SDR-like or not, if it looks good it looks good, and going by the SDR it'll definitely still look good.

Now I'm curious... how much less?

[DeathLazer]

This is a long thread, so forgive me if this has been brought up already. On the Digital Bits website, it states that their sources are telling them that some of the early "de-aging" VFX in Tron Legacy have been redone for modern standards. I'm assuming they are talking about the young version of Jeff Bridges.

So, is Disney pulling a George Lucas on this movie?

Here's the link:
https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/b...-graham-greene

[Captain Keen]

Nobody knows yet. I don’t think the new version is available anywhere yet?

I just checked Apple TV based on the comment above and it looks the same to me but maybe my account has an issue. Vudu/FAH and MA are the same, and MA is the non-IMAX version while Vudu is IMAX ratio shifts, I assume both will be updated with the 4K.

I’m really curious how the DV will look with all the neon.

[Kylo_Ren]

Pre-orders are still up on Amazon?



I predict that Amazon is seriously overselling these. haha

[SCS_Shoug]

Originally Posted by sojrner

Now I'm curious... how much less?

In terms of "usage" of HDR as a format, I don't really care much when a release is reserved or SDR-in-HDR in terms of brightness levels, especially if it has wide color content that would be otherwise a compatibility nightmare if it was encoded as SDR.2020, and depending on the roots of what's being presented. Obviously heavily digital stuff from the 00s/10s, unless the Blu-ray/DVD grade was super blown out to begin with due to trends of the time and those highlights would've been recovered in a competent regrade anyway, will almost always lean more towards SDR than HDR. Film based content is tricky, since different movies, stocks, aesthetics, materials, etc will call for different grading styles, and in that case I usually only believe the grade being "SDR-in-HDR" is a bad thing when it's something like the Cameron 4Ks, which are patently just reused old Blu-ray masters, including near identical dynamic range to the Blu-ray, just cranked up to 203 nits paper white to just barely meet a "pleasing" brightness level to most people. Low-nit grades can still offer advantages like WCG and improvements in contrast, highlight detail, gradients, black levels, etc thanks to being 10/12-bit in nature, and I fully believe that can be the case with Tron Legacy. I'm probably talking out my ass but it's generally how I view this whole shtick about "dim HDR" movies (and I didn't even get to my rant about most people having their SDR brightness cranked up way too high!).

[Mierzwiak]

Originally Posted by SCS_Shoug

Same cinematographer and director as F1 and Top Gun Maverick which both had fairly reserved HDR grades (Maverick I know for a fact never even passes 560something nits)

Maverick looks outstanding on UHD, if that's "reserved HDR grade" then I want every movie to have such reserved grade.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by DeathLazer

This is a long thread, so forgive me if this has been brought up already. On the Digital Bits website, it states that their sources are telling them that some of the early "de-aging" VFX in Tron Legacy have been redone for modern standards. I'm assuming they are talking about the young version of Jeff Bridges.

So, is Disney pulling a George Lucas on this movie?

Here's the link:
https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/b...-graham-greene

Believe it when I see it, other sites have used the exact same 'touch up' wording re: Legacy so someone's feeding them a line, but if you're going to replace an entirely CG character with a new iteration that's more than a mere 'touch up' and is going to cost a lot of money.

Also, I absolutely love the gaslighting from Bill Hunt as to why Disnee won't use UHD100 discs: it's so they can put more stock of both Trons on the shelves for everyone to enjoy! Which is of coursh why there's been no problem with pre-orders whatsoever. What? Oh

Legacy is over 2 hours long and has a bunch of audio tracks on there, the crisp digital acquisition should help with the compression but it's a shame they're being so cheap. It's weird that Sony aren't continually putting their UHDs onto double-deckers just to make sure stock will be available, even their shitty MOD discs are still on UHD100. Hmmmm

[Hombre1]

Again this in not a wide realease, but only a couple target countries.
So what's the need for a big stock if they aim for small market?

Or is it the "Steelbook high price" startegie...

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Believe it when I see it, other sites have used the exact same 'touch up' wording re: Legacy so someone's feeding them a line, but if you're going to replace an entirely CG character with a new iteration that's more than a mere 'touch up' and is going to cost a lot of money.

Also, I absolutely love the gaslighting from Bill Hunt as to why Disnee won't use UHD100 discs: it's so they can put more stock of both Trons on the shelves for everyone to enjoy! Which is of coursh why there's been no problem with pre-orders whatsoever. What? Oh

Legacy is over 2 hours long and has a bunch of audio tracks on there, the crisp digital acquisition should help with the compression but it's a shame they're being so cheap. It's weird that Sony aren't continually putting their UHDs onto double-deckers just to make sure stock will be available, even their shitty MOD discs are still on UHD100. Hmmmm

[greeneye59]

Originally Posted by DeathLazer

This is a long thread, so forgive me if this has been brought up already. On the Digital Bits website, it states that their sources are telling them that some of the early "de-aging" VFX in Tron Legacy have been redone for modern standards. I'm assuming they are talking about the young version of Jeff Bridges.

So, is Disney pulling a George Lucas on this movie?

Here's the link:
https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/b...-graham-greene

Sounds like great news as long as they don’t make it look worse.

[Alfred E. Neumann]

Originally Posted by DeathLazer

This is a long thread, so forgive me if this has been brought up already. On the Digital Bits website, it states that their sources are telling them that some of the early "de-aging" VFX in Tron Legacy have been redone for modern standards. I'm assuming they are talking about the young version of Jeff Bridges.

So, is Disney pulling a George Lucas on this movie?

Here's the link:
https://thedigitalbits.com/columns/b...-graham-greene

They probably hired the Deepfaker Shamook, who has a deal with Disney (Lucasfilm - de-aged Luke Skywalker, Anakin Skywalker).

YouTube

[Geoff D]

The deepfake is betterer but because its movement and expression is based on the original animation it still looks very stiff to me. Needs doing from scratch with a human reference.

[starmike]

It'll be interesting to see how soon preorders actually start shipping. Theoretically, it should be later this week if the release date is the 16th.

[Juan127]

Originally Posted by starmike

It'll be interesting to see how soon preorders actually start shipping. Theoretically, it should be later this week if the release date is the 16th.

awww yes yes in a way that relates to the theory of a subject or area of study rather than its practical application.

[Pieter V]

FYI - BD-66 it is.