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[mrjohnnyb]

Originally Posted by ThisKid

My friends and I had a funny story with mishearing a line of dialogue once. 2 years or so ago, we had a sleepover at my place for my birthday, and to celebrate, we were having a Doctor Who marathon. We were watching the first Daleks serial, and in one scene, a Dalek said "We have the message now". Sadly, we heard something completely different. We heard "We have the best sex now". I don't think it has anything to do with us being teenagers, but when we heard the line, we burst into laughter onto what we thought we heard. We rewinded the scene and turned on the subtitles, and we learned it was "We have the message now", not that other, um, thing.

That's a very funny story!

I remember seeing these subtitles for the movie Chinatown for the first time:

Jake Gittes (Jack Nicholason): How much are you worth?
Noah Cross (John Huston): I have no idea. How much do you want?
Jake Gittes: I just wanna know what you're worth. More than ten million?
Noah Cross: Oh my, yes!

I originally thought John Huston said "Oh, my ass!"

[Polaroid]

Came across this and thought... how great would this site be with animated avatars...



Thought of you Ray

[ThisKid]

Originally Posted by Polaroid

Came across this and thought... how great would this site be with animated avatars...

Aaaaaaandd goodbye dreams, hello ferociously terrifying nightmares for the next 6 weeks!

[CriterionBlues]

We are going to a Blue Velvet restoration screening the week after next, and frankly Ray's presence here is going to impact my viewing of the film. I'll probably think not only of Ray, but also Top Gun and Jon Mulvaney.

Edit: and before anyone calls me out, I know that Ray's av is from Wild at Heart.

[Polaroid]

Came across this montage for Lynch ages ago but always rewatch to get me in the Lynch mood!

the art of david lynch - YouTube

[SkyAntoine]

Sounds like everyone is thinking of Ray. I watched Only Angels Have Wings this morning. It's like Casablanca meets Wages of Fear meets Top Gun all in a western with planes. Quite a film and a pleasant surprise for me. 9/10


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[oildude]

Originally Posted by bwdowiak

Had the great pleasure of seeing Pickup on South Street via the MoC Blu-ray.

Great film! Thelma Ritter, who I wasn't even aware was in this film, really steals the show as the police informer - Heart breaking and entirely believable ...and I liked Widmark playing the "cannon" much more than I liked him in Night and the City as a low-life loser.

This was only my second Sam Fuller film (the other was House of Bamboo) and I really like his pulpy style. Will check out his CC Blu titles soon.

I am a huge fan of Samuel Fuller. Have been for years. It brings happy tears to my eyes to read posts like yours and welcome another fan to the Fuller Club. This weekend I will be watching Dead Pigeon on Beethoven Street for the first time after my Olive Blu-ray arrived yesterday (currently $13.99 on amazon).

If you appreciate Fuller's pulpy style, then you should enjoy both of his films available on Criterion Blu-ray, The Naked Kiss and Shock Corridor. These are probably the most outrageous examples of Fuller's pulp sensibilities translated to film. The Naked Kiss just might have the most memorable opening four minutes in the history of cinema.......

Naked Kiss - Opening Scene - YouTube

Perhaps Fuller's greatest legacy is his association with younger filmmakers later in his life. His films and style were an inspiration to some of his contemporaries in the French New Wave and a strong influence on future directors such as Scorsese and Tarantino. Anyone who is a fan of Sam Fuller, or interested in discovering more of his works, should also plan on adding this to their B&N shopping list for July:



One of the best of the Eclipse sets, it contains Fuller's first three movies. I Shot Jesse James is pure western melodrama, but it has an edge to it that makes it darker than a lot of these types of films from the 1940s-1950s. His second film is an enjoyable performance by Vincent Price in The Baron of Arizona. But the standout is The Steel Helmet, Fuller's third film. Considered one of his best and a classic, it is worth the price of the set all by itself. Fuller was a decorated combat infantryman during World War II with the U.S. 1st Division (the Big Red One) and saw extensive fighting from North Africa to Germany. He landed on Omaha Beach on June 6, 1944, and in May 1945 he was present at the liberation of a concentration camp in Falkenau, Czechoslovakia, where he shot footage from a handheld camera he had picked up along the way. His battle pictures are more than just standard war movies, they are meditations on the human condition in a world that is no longer human. As both writer and director of his projects, his films are filled with little ironies and deep black humor that the observant Fuller picked up during his military service and job as a crime reporter prior to the war. He passes these on to his audience through his scripts, dialogue, and cinematography.

I think the three films here are available on hulu plus also.

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by Rad See

Tati? Chris Marker?

I prefer to watch La Jetee in English.

Though that's a voice over, so I'm not sure if it counts as dubbing.

Also Herzog's Nosferatu.

It doesn't feel like German is essential to appreciating the spirit of the film.

The dubbing is really well done, so why would I rather read subtitles if I don't have to?

Then again, Isabelle Adjani is French and Bruno Ganz is Swiss, so I would assume that somebody's voice is getting dubbed no matter what language it's in.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by oildude

But the standout is The Steel Helmet, Fuller's third film. Considered one of his best and a classic, it is worth the price of the set all by itself. Fuller was a decorated combat infantryman during World War II with the U.S. 1st Division (the Big Red One) and saw extensive fighting from North Africa to Germany.

Speaking of which, in one's quest to see more films by Fuller, one should not fail to check out The Big Red One. Yes, the review of the BD isn't kind, but the movie is worth it.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

I prefer to watch La Jetee in English.

Though that's a voice over, so I'm not sure if it counts as dubbing.

Also Herzog's Nosferatu.

It doesn't feel like German is essential to appreciating the spirit of the film.

The dubbing is really well done, so why would I rather read subtitles if I don't have to?

Then again, Isabelle Adjani is French and Bruno Ganz is Swiss, so I would assume that somebody's voice is getting dubbed no matter what language it's in.

You do realize that many people are fluent in more than one language? Adjani and Ganz are good examples. Adjani is French, but she had a German mother, and speaks German fluently. German is Ganz's native language, but I've also seen him speak English fluently.

Another good example with regard to dubbing is Das Boot. In the English dub version, the dubbing for all of the major roles were done by the actors themselves, as they could all speak German fluently.

Max von Sydow is another actor who speaks several languages, and often dubs his own performances into other languages.

I remember back in the 80s, seeing 2010, and being impressed by the fact that Helen Mirren seemed to be able to speak Russian as well as any of the actual Russian actors in the film. Then I found out that she's of Russian descent, and speaks the language fluently.

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by jayembee

You do realize that many people are fluent in more than one language? Adjani and Ganz are good examples. Adjani is French, but she had a German mother, and speaks German fluently. German is Ganz's native language, but I've also seen him speak English fluently.

Another good example with regard to dubbing is Das Boot. In the English dub version, the dubbing for all of the major roles were done by the actors themselves, as they could all speak German fluently.

Max von Sydow is another actor who speaks several languages, and often dubs his own performances into other languages.

My understanding is that Adjani's dialogue was dubbed for both versions because of her accent.

...not sure about Ganz in the English version.

[bwdowiak]

Originally Posted by oildude

I am a huge fan of Samuel Fuller. Have been for years. It brings happy tears to my eyes to read posts like yours and welcome another fan to the Fuller Club. This weekend I will be watching Dead Pigeon on Beethoven Street for the first time after my Olive Blu-ray arrived yesterday (currently $13.99 on amazon).

If you appreciate Fuller's pulpy style, then you should enjoy both of his films available on Criterion Blu-ray, The Naked Kiss and Shock Corridor. These are probably the most outrageous examples of Fuller's pulp sensibilities translated to film. The Naked Kiss just might have the most memorable opening four minutes in the history of cinema.......

Naked Kiss - Opening Scene - YouTube


Perhaps Fuller's greatest legacy is his association with younger filmmakers later in his life. His films and style were an inspiration to some of his contemporaries in the French New Wave and a strong influence on future directors such as Scorsese and Tarantino. Anyone who is a fan of Sam Fuller, or interested in discovering more of his works, should also plan on adding this to their B&N shopping list for July:



One of the best of the Eclipse sets, it contains Fuller's first three movies. I Shot Jesse James is pure western melodrama, but it has an edge to it that makes it darker than a lot of these types of films from the 1940s-1950s. His second film is an enjoyable performance by Vincent Price in The Baron of Arizona. But the standout is The Steel Helmet, Fuller's third film. Considered one of his best and a classic, it is worth the price of the set all by itself. Fuller was a decorated combat infantryman during World War II with the U.S. 1st Division (the Big Red One) and saw extensive fighting from North Africa to Germany. He landed on Omaha Beach on June 6, 1944, and in 1945 he was present at the liberation of a concentration camp in Falkenau where he shot footage from a handheld camera he had picked up along the way. His battle pictures are more than just standard war movies, they are meditations on the human condition in a world that is no longer human. As both writer and director of his projects, his films are filled with little ironies and deep black humor that the observant Fuller picked up during his military service and job as a crime reporter prior to the war. He passes these on to his audience through his scripts, dialogue, and cinematography.

I think the three films here are available on hulu plus also.

I was just reading up on these films last night, so it is definitely now on my wish list. The 2 CC titles you mention sound like a hoot. I won't watch that scene now, but will be checking them out soon.

Thanks, oildude! Good news, too, about Fuller, is that there are A TON of his films available on blu and those are supplemented by a box in the under - appreciated Eclipse series. Can't wait to see these.

[Ray Jackson]

Not Criterion related, but anyone here who's a fan of the late, great John Cazale...this article almost made me weep.

...particularly towards the end.

It's worth the time to read.

http://nypost.com/2016/04/23/the-tra...-streeps-life/

[theater dreamer]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

Oh please. Let's not look for silly reasons to try and justify a false argument.

Yes, because emulating centuries old newsletters is always most successfully done with a modern typeface.

[theater dreamer]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Not Criterion related, but anyone here who's a fan of the late, great John Cazale...this article almost made me weep.

...particularly towards the end.

It's worth the time to read.

http://nypost.com/2016/04/23/the-tra...-streeps-life/

Huge fan of Cazale. I will read this after dinner. Thank you, Ray.

[belcherman]

Originally Posted by theater dreamer

Yes, because emulating centuries old newsletters is always most successfully done with a modern typeface.

I was going to stay out of this debate, but Times New Roman, while created in 1931, was based on the Roman family of fonts, which dates back to the 15th century.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_type

So let's just say you're both right and move on.

[theater dreamer]

Great article, Ray. Parts of it really caught me off guard, even having read your comments. If you haven't yet watched I Knew It Was You, the Cazale documentary that is included with the re-release of Dog Day Afternoon, I cannot recommend it enough.

John was such an immense talent, and it has long confounded me that he never received an Academy Award nomination. When you consider the quality of his work, and the films he appeared in, it's pretty much mind boggling.

When I watched that documentary, the respect I've always had for Pacino, De Niro and Streep increased exponentially. Their talents are undeniable, but when you have a chance to see them as people, when they are truly at their most vulnerable, it's moving. Robert and Meryl, in particular, had to fight so hard to keep him in The Deer Hunter, and I'm forever grateful that their efforts were not in vain. I can't imagine the film without him, nor can I imagine his filmography without that role. We have precious little work of his to revel in as it is. I only wish I could have seen him on the stage.

And, how can anybody not love Meryl Streep?

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Not Criterion related, but anyone here who's a fan of the late, great John Cazale...this article almost made me weep.

...particularly towards the end.

It's worth the time to read.

http://nypost.com/2016/04/23/the-tra...-streeps-life/

[Al_The_Strange]

My appreciation of Streep and Cazale suddenly skyrocketed.

Not that I didn't appreciate them before, but this is quite the somber and inspiring story I never knew about before.

[pedromvu]

Originally Posted by SkyAntoine

Sounds like everyone is thinking of Ray. I watched Only Angels Have Wings this morning. It's like Casablanca meets Wages of Fear meets Top Gun all in a western with planes. Quite a film and a pleasant surprise for me. 9/10


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Just saw this too, pretty good movie although my gut reaction tells me a 8/10, overall I thought the pace was a bit weird at times, there is a huge part with no Jean Arthur at all, and was a bit surprised by Rita Hayworth acting being just barely passable (although who is looking at her acting anyway ).

But your description is totally accurate, I couldn't believe this was done quite a few years before Casablanca.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by theater dreamer

Yes, because emulating centuries old newsletters is always most successfully done with a modern typeface.

Well, they are printing it with brand new printers, using modern blu-ray technology that certainly didn't exist at the time the movie takes place either. See how stupid that argument is? I'm sure the paint used in the creation of the new art isn't leftover from 1600, either, so that's also "modern" and not authentic. Don't be silly.

And since you didn't know, its a typeface modeled after centuries old typography, so there's absolutely nothing wrong with using it. But nice try! This whole "complaining just to find something to complain about" mentality of millennials is a bore, but luckily it's often refuted.