Aladdin (1992) (Diamond Edition)

[mgmoya]

A video sample ripped from my blu-ray of Aladdin Diamond Edition.

https://vimeo.com/141361361


Greetings from Chile.

[jpanimation]

Originally Posted by The_Iceflash

God-forbid they actually release it as intended.

God-Forbid we see all the artwork, especially since they touched it up for IMAX and 1:66:1 is what the director's best felt appropriate for that version.

I'm just saying they've been fine with the 1:66:1 aspect ratio ever since it's first home video release, presented in what the DVD calls the "Originally Created Aspect Ratio" and just now they've decided to go with the Original Theatrical Aspect Ratio. Not so much complaining as it is curiosity. One must ask, why? It's not consistent with the other Diamond Edition CAPS releases or the past home releases of this film or even Musker and Clements other Diamond Edition release, The Little Mermaid. It's also weird that the Vudu release is consistent with past releases. Was this the director's call or someone else? We'll probably never know.

I just miss my blue castle logo

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by jpanimation

God-Forbid we see all the artwork, especially since they touched it up for IMAX and 1:66:1 is what the director's best felt appropriate for that version.

I'm just saying they've been fine with the 1:66:1 aspect ratio ever since it's first home video release, presented in what the DVD calls the "Originally Created Aspect Ratio" and just now they've decided to go with the Original Theatrical Aspect Ratio. Not so much complaining as it is curiosity. One must ask, why? It's not consistent with the other Diamond Edition CAPS releases or the past home releases of this film or even Musker and Clements other Diamond Edition release, The Little Mermaid. It's also weird that the Vudu release is consistent with past releases. Was this the director's call or someone else? We'll probably never know.

I just miss my blue castle logo

Aladdin was released in IMAX in 1.66??

[Hardback247]

Maybe you should all contact Disney Studios Help about the aspect ratio issue if it really means that much.

[Nico Darko]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

It's NOT CROPPED. It's in the INTENDED aspect ratio.


Thousands of 1.85 movies have extra top and bottom information as well. You want all those in 1.33???

But, why would they draw and animate something in 1.66:1 if it's gonna get cropped? Why draw something if you don't want it to be seen? It seems to me that 1.66:1 IS the INTENDED aspect ratio, 1.85:1 is just how they decided to show it at the cinema. Just like 1.33 is the intended AR for "The Jungle Book" and "Robin Hood".

You can't compare open-matted regular movies with animated movies. Animation and artwork isn't being cropped with regular movies. Or I guess it depend on the movie, "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" looks fine in 1.85 for instance, but "Aladdin" definitely looks too cramped in that AR.

[Hardback247]

To be honest, does this whole aspect ratio "problem" really matter?

[DarkEye]

Hi mgmoya Can you be able to tell us if the full 110 minute version of the Diamond in the Rough making of has been ported over.

[Snl40boi]

Originally Posted by mgmoya

The Genie Outtakes from my blu-ray of Aladdin Diamond Edition:

https://vimeo.com/141346297

Really funny.


Greetings from Chile.

Well that was a nice little tribute to the late great Robin Williams they did

[Snl40boi]

Really you are are complaining about the aspect ratio? Wow really ok so how many of you are not buying it because of the aspect ratio? How many of you are still going to buy this any way despise the aspect ratio? And how many of you really don't care and just want the movie?

[mgmoya]

Originally Posted by DarkEye

Hi mgmoya Can you be able to tell us if the full 110 minute version of the Diamond in the Rough making of has been ported over.

Times by chapters of Diamond Rough:

02:43 The Producers / From Arabian Nights To The Silver Screen
03:23 The Producers / Reflections On Black Friday
04:29 The Producers / Keane's Team: Redesigning the Lead Character
01:54 The Producers / Rough Stuff #1: Progression Reel
01:12 The Producers / Rough Stuff #2: An Animator Checks His Work
01:33 The Producers / Green Room - Take 1
04:25 The Music / "A Whole New World": The Recordinng Sessions
01:06 The Music / Rough Stuff #3: Work In Progress - "Prince Ali"
01:07 The Music / Green Room - Take 2
03:10 The Animators / Pencil + Computer: Creating The Magic Carpet
04:30 The Animators / Master Of The Line: The Art Of Al Hirschfeld
02:41 The Animators / Designing Jasmine
02:08 The Animators / Designing Jafar
02:24 The Animators / Unsung Heroes Of The Clean-Up Department
03:11 The Animators / Jafar Goes To The Birds
02:41 The Animators / Rough Stuff #4: When Live Action Meets Animation
02:08 The Animators / Green Room - Take 3
10:09 The Voice Talent / You Talkin' To Me? The Voices Of Aladdin
02:24 The Voice Talent / Gilbert Gottfried: Up Close And Aggravated
01:48 The Voice Talent / Behind The Microphone
01:23 The Voice Talent / Extended Cast Member Interviews / Scott Weinger
01:42 The Voice Talent / Extended Cast Member Interviews / Linda Larkin
01:36 The Voice Talent / Extended Cast Member Interviews / Douglas Seale
01:58 The Voice Talent / Extended Cast Member Interviews / Jonathan Freeman
01:08 The Voice Talent / Green Room - Take 4
03:46 Made You Look

About 70 minutes total playback.


Greetings from Chile.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by jpanimation

God-Forbid we see all the artwork, especially since they touched it up for IMAX and 1:66:1 is what the director's best felt appropriate for that version.

Because IMAX is a 1.44 format and they wanted to fill the screen as much as possible. It was a one-off anyway. Some movies like Oblivion or Skyfall had different aspect ratios with more information for their IMAX showings, but *only* for IMAX.

I'm just saying they've been fine with the 1:66:1 aspect ratio ever since it's first home video release, presented in what the DVD calls the "Originally Created Aspect Ratio" and just now they've decided to go with the Original Theatrical Aspect Ratio. Not so much complaining as it is curiosity. One must ask, why? It's not consistent with the other Diamond Edition CAPS releases or the past home releases of this film or even Musker and Clements other Diamond Edition release, The Little Mermaid. It's also weird that the Vudu release is consistent with past releases. Was this the director's call or someone else? We'll probably never know.

I just miss my blue castle logo

There has been several Blu-rays that present films in their theatrical aspect ratios for the first time on home video, like Star Trek VI or Austin Powers International Man of Mystery.


Vudu uses an older HD master.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Nico Darko

But, why would they draw and animate something in 1.66:1 if it's gonna get cropped? Why draw something if you don't want it to be seen? It seems to me that 1.66:1 IS the INTENDED aspect ratio, 1.85:1 is just how they decided to show it at the cinema. Just like 1.33 is the intended AR for "The Jungle Book" and "Robin Hood".

1.85 has been set in stone for the USA since the 1950s for "flat" 35MM films. Some European showings were either 1.66 or 1.75. There were exceptions of course, but Disney always composed their movies for the 1.85 aspect ratio in the 1990s. CAPS renders at 1.66 so yes, the animation will have extra info. This also lessens the cropping for 1.33 VHS versions which were so important at the time. But we are not worried about VHS versions now. We don't have 1.33 televisions sold anymore, which we still did when Aladdin was issued on DVD.

[EllissonWatson]

I already have the Zavvi steelbook

[Snl40boi]

Just looked on Best Buy and according to them my order which was placed on 9/20 was received.

[theace69]

I can't believe this is has become an issue. It's a lose lose situation for Disney because either way you'd piss off different facets of people regarding the aspect ratio they would have used. So they went with the the theatrical aspect ratio which is fine by me because isn't that Blu's are for? To simulate the theater experience?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Nico Darko

But, why would they draw and animate something in 1.66:1 if it's gonna get cropped? Why draw something if you don't want it to be seen? It seems to me that 1.66:1 IS the INTENDED aspect ratio, 1.85:1 is just how they decided to show it at the cinema. Just like 1.33 is the intended AR for "The Jungle Book" and "Robin Hood".

How many times are we going to go through this? NO. NO! The intended AR for post-Dalmatians features IS NOT 1.33:1. They were PROTECTED for possible TV airings, the same as Aladdin. HDTV was a twinkle in some technician's eye in 1992, and in 1992, it was a 4:3 home video world, but the films were intended to be seen in theaters, not on home video.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Justadoo444

I was going off of the site's rating.
Also, I DO have TLK, and the second screen (PC/Mac) doesn't work, even you remove the S from the HTTPS of the link (It elicits an error otherwise). It needs to be fixed.

Works for me, but then, I downloaded the entire SS app to my iPad day and date of release (also Tron Legacy, Bambi, Pirates IV, Lady and the Tramp, Dark Knight Rises). It gave me a new appreciation for the film. It's like a private tour of the Animation Research Library. Lady and the Tramp is probably the best of all the Second Screen apps, but Lion King gives it a run for the money.

[FrankV]

Originally Posted by mgmoya

Times by chapters of Diamond Rough:

02:43 The Producers / From Arabian Nights To The Silver Screen
03:23 The Producers / Reflections On Black Friday
04:29 The Producers / Keane's Team: Redesigning the Lead Character
01:54 The Producers / Rough Stuff #1: Progression Reel
01:12 The Producers / Rough Stuff #2: An Animator Checks His Work
01:33 The Producers / Green Room - Take 1
04:25 The Music / "A Whole New World": The Recordinng Sessions
01:06 The Music / Rough Stuff #3: Work In Progress - "Prince Ali"
01:07 The Music / Green Room - Take 2
03:10 The Animators / Pencil + Computer: Creating The Magic Carpet
04:30 The Animators / Master Of The Line: The Art Of Al Hirschfeld
02:41 The Animators / Designing Jasmine
02:08 The Animators / Designing Jafar
02:24 The Animators / Unsung Heroes Of The Clean-Up Department
03:11 The Animators / Jafar Goes To The Birds
02:41 The Animators / Rough Stuff #4: When Live Action Meets Animation
02:08 The Animators / Green Room - Take 3
10:09 The Voice Talent / You Talkin' To Me? The Voices Of Aladdin
02:24 The Voice Talent / Gilbert Gottfried: Up Close And Aggravated
01:48 The Voice Talent / Behind The Microphone
01:23 The Voice Talent / Extended Cast Member Interviews / Scott Weinger
01:42 The Voice Talent / Extended Cast Member Interviews / Linda Larkin
01:36 The Voice Talent / Extended Cast Member Interviews / Douglas Seale
01:58 The Voice Talent / Extended Cast Member Interviews / Jonathan Freeman
01:08 The Voice Talent / Green Room - Take 4
03:46 Made You Look

About 70 minutes total playback.

The chapters of the Diamond in the Rough documentary on the US and international DVD are:

11:58 The Producers – NOT ON US BLU-RAY
02:43 From Arabian Nights to the Silver Screen
03:23 Reflections on Black Friday
04:29 Keane's Team: Redesigning the Lead Character
01:54 Rough Stuff #1: Progression Reel
01:12 Rough Stuff #2: An Animator Checks His Work
01:33 Green Room - Take 1
06:53 The Music – NOT ON US BLU-RAY
04:25 "A Whole New World": The Recordinng Sessions
01:06 Rough Stuff #3: Work in Progress - "Prince Ali"
01:07 Green Room - Take 2
13:30 The Animators – NOT ON US BLU-RAY
03:10 Pencil + Computer: Creating the Magic Carpet
04:30 Master of the Line: The Art Of Al Hirschfeld
02:41 Designing Jasmine
02:08 Designing Jafar
02:24 Unsung Heroes of the Clean-Up Department
03:11 Jafar Goes to the Birds
02:41 Rough Stuff #4: When Live Action Meets Animation
02:08 Green Room - Take 3
06:28 The Voice Talents – NOT ON US BLU-RAY
10:09 You Talkin' to Me? The Voices of Aladdin - NOT ON INTERNATIONAL BLU-RAY (footage of Robin Williams recording the voice of the genie)
02:24 Gilbert Gottfried: Up Close and Aggravated
01:48 Behind The Microphone
01:23 Extended Cast Member Interviews / Scott Weinger
01:42 Extended Cast Member Interviews / Linda Larkin
01:36 Extended Cast Member Interviews / Douglas Seale
01:58 Extended Cast Member Interviews / Jonathan Freeman
01:08 The Voice Talent / Green Room - Take 4
03:46 Made You Look

That means about 40 minutes of footage was cut out of the documentary on the US Blu-ray and about 10 minutes on the international Blu-ray. The DVD is the only place where you can watch the full documentary.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by FrankV

The chapters of the Diamond in the Rough documentary on the US and international DVD are:

11:58 The Producers – NOT ON US BLU-RAY
02:43 From Arabian Nights to the Silver Screen
03:23 Reflections on Black Friday
04:29 Keane's Team: Redesigning the Lead Character
01:54 Rough Stuff #1: Progression Reel
01:12 Rough Stuff #2: An Animator Checks His Work
01:33 Green Room - Take 1
06:53 The Music – NOT ON US BLU-RAY
04:25 "A Whole New World": The Recordinng Sessions
01:06 Rough Stuff #3: Work in Progress - "Prince Ali"
01:07 Green Room - Take 2
13:30 The Animators – NOT ON US BLU-RAY
03:10 Pencil + Computer: Creating the Magic Carpet
04:30 Master of the Line: The Art Of Al Hirschfeld
02:41 Designing Jasmine
02:08 Designing Jafar
02:24 Unsung Heroes of the Clean-Up Department
03:11 Jafar Goes to the Birds
02:41 Rough Stuff #4: When Live Action Meets Animation
02:08 Green Room - Take 3
06:28 The Voice Talents – NOT ON US BLU-RAY
10:09 You Talkin' to Me? The Voices of Aladdin - NOT ON INTERNATIONAL BLU-RAY (footage of Robin Williams recording the voice of the genie)
02:24 Gilbert Gottfried: Up Close and Aggravated
01:48 Behind The Microphone
01:23 Extended Cast Member Interviews / Scott Weinger
01:42 Extended Cast Member Interviews / Linda Larkin
01:36 Extended Cast Member Interviews / Douglas Seale
01:58 Extended Cast Member Interviews / Jonathan Freeman
01:08 The Voice Talent / Green Room - Take 4
03:46 Made You Look

That means about 40 minutes of footage was cut out of the documentary on the US Blu-ray and about 10 minutes on the international Blu-ray. The DVD is the only place where you can watch the full documentary.

Que the Freak Out.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DbzooE7jtiE

[DarkEye]

Thanks for that mate, the stuff that's removed was from a live event that Leonard Maltin hosted in 2004, a shame its been removed as it served as the framework for the making of doco.

But that's Disney disc releases for you, one step forward one step back.