Disney+'s - WandaVision (Season 1)

[slumcat]

Originally Posted by AnimalCMan

I may sound like I’m beating a dead horse here, but I am still ready to die on the Fietro is Fox-Men Quicksilver hill.

I get people’s reluctance to believe this, but the reveal he’s just some average Joe would frankly not make any sense to me, and I still feel like those not wanting to believe he’s Quicksilver are missing the storytelling setups they’ve been giving us to believe this—the biggest being we already know this ties in Multiverse of Madness. We know Wanda or somebody will rip open the multiverse and as I stated before I still believe Wanda unwittingly pulled him from another dimension before he was possessed.

There’s also the fact that Wanda can warp reality, but there’s been ZERO evidence shown she can grant people powers so far. This could be shown later for sure, but at this time it makes more sense she was altering the appearance of that Quicksilver’s powers to appear more like her brother’s looked, hell she already altered his appearance.

So maybe I’m wrong, maybe he’ll be revealed as a nobody, but to me that would be a huge letdown. Also his appearance next to Monica in last weeks post-credits scene seems like he still has powers since he appears out of nowhere. Also I don’t believe he’s still being possessed since I don’t think Agatha could possess someone AND be dealing with Wanda at the same time.

Originally Posted by Joey9775

There's no reason to cast Evan Peters if he's just a random guy unless its a meta joke, which is not Feige territory. And as said before there's no evidence that Agatha or Wanda can give super speed powers to anyone. The possession is only to force Peter into Fietro as he has no idea who Wanda is anyway.

I think due to the structure of the show, Ep 8 was all the flashbacks we were gonna get. Ep 9 is the big finale.

In Ep 8 we saw the birthing sequence, we learned how Wanda birthed the new vision. If she had birthed Pietro, wouldn't we have seen that?

And as of now Wanda has NOT broken open the multiverse. So where did she pull Fietro from? As of what is shown till Ep 8, multiverse has not been created. And since Fietro's appearance predates Ep 8, he can't be from another universe.

Agatha revealed he's not actually Pietro he's a fake. So I think with the available information we can deduce that he's probably an ordinary Westview resident.

Again, they might provide more info in Ep 9, but as of now, the multiverse has not been created. So he can't be from another universe.

[Josep5349]

Throughout the episode we see Wanda’s experience of trauma including the death of her parents in Sokovia, imprisonment and death of her brother. In all her moments moments of trauma the one constant that brought her an element of comfort was sitcoms.

Finally due to being unable to bury Vision and experience grief, she created a place where she can live out an alternate reality with Vision away from the trauma of the real world based on the sitcoms she turned to during the moments of trauma in her life. So naturally the sitcoms and circumstances in which she watched those sitcoms are pretty crucial to the format of the show.

Watching tv during imprisonment, and following the death of Pietro is fair enough. But in terms of where it all began, watching DVDs with her family in Sokovia, that’s where you have to start making excuses for the show. Essentially because neither The Dick Van Dyke Show box set nor Malcolm in the Middle DVD box sets we see in in the episode were available in 1999 (the first episode of Malcom in the Middle didn’t even air until 2000!). Narratively that’s problematic because these sitcoms, and her “relationship” with them greatly inform the format of the show. In any case, in terms of making allowances or excuses, I guess it can be explained away by, say, in the MCU shows were released earlier than in the real world, or considering Sokovia isn’t real anyway who cares. It’s just something that certainly took me out of the moment. Why have box sets of sitcoms that exist in the real world and show them to exist in the show at a time prior to their actual release, considering Wanda watching those sitcoms will have such a big impact on the format of the show? Of course the other possibility is that the memories we saw weren’t actually real, though with only one more episode to go I think it’s probably too late in the day for that additional twist.

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[donutbat]

*SPOILER ALERT*

Okay, am I the only one who thinks that maybe the Scarlet Witch "gave" Wanda her powers a la Flash giving his past self the power?
I mean they showed Wanda watching the mind stone and then in the explosion of light the Scarlet Witch (costume and all) appears before her.
Is this a future Wanda or a multiverse Wanda giving young Wanda her powers?
And on the same note, did Pietro see Quicksilver when exposed to the stone? Or did Scarlet Witch make him an enhanced? If it's the latter, makes sense that Westview Pietro has powers (making him the new Quicksilver once the hex is over?).

So many questions...

[Joey9775]

Originally Posted by slumcat

I think due to the structure of the show, Ep 8 was all the flashbacks we were gonna get. Ep 9 is the big finale.

In Ep 8 we saw the birthing sequence, we learned how Wanda birthed the new vision. If she had birthed Pietro, wouldn't we have seen that?

And as of now Wanda has NOT broken open the multiverse. So where did she pull Fietro from? As of what is shown till Ep 8, multiverse has not been created. And since Fietro's appearance predates Ep 8, he can't be from another universe.

Agatha revealed he's not actually Pietro he's a fake. So I think with the available information we can deduce that he's probably an ordinary Westview resident.

Again, they might provide more info in Ep 9, but as of now, the multiverse has not been created. So he can't be from another universe.

There IS a multiverse. The current Gamora is from an alternate timeline. They just defeated Thanos from the same one. Cap went back and lived a life in another one.

[chip75]

So the Maximoff's had a region free DVD player? Nice.

[Josep5349]

Originally Posted by chip75

So the Maximoff's had a region free DVD player? Nice.

And DVD box sets for shows that hadn’t even aired yet.

[minister_x]

Originally Posted by Josep5349

And DVD box sets for shows that hadn’t even aired yet.

The most recent show in the suitcase is Malcolm in the Middle, which came out on DVD in 2002. No idea when this episode is meant to take place, but if any time after 2002 is plausible, then there's nothing wrong?

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Josep5349

And DVD box sets for shows that hadn’t even aired yet.

Sokovia gonna Sokovia.

[Josep5349]

Originally Posted by minister_x

The most recent show in the suitcase is Malcolm in the Middle, which came out on DVD in 2002. No idea when this episode is meant to take place, but if any time after 2002 is plausible, then there's nothing wrong?

See post #1462 above. The Sokovia flashback takes place in 1999.

[minister_x]

Apologies, I didn't read all the previous replies! What suggests it's 1999?

EDIT: I just googled it, fair enough!

[Josep5349]

Originally Posted by minister_x

Apologies, I didn't read all the previous replies! What suggests it's 1999?

We know Wanda & Pietro were born in 1989 and that their parents were killed when they were 10.

[JayTL]

That doesn't bother me, since it can just be unreliable memories, or Agatha messing with her, or Wanda just being nostalgic.

Honestly, the whole thing could be Agatha planting memories and making Wanda think she has more control over her powers *shrug*

[chip75]

Originally Posted by minister_x

Apologies, I didn't read all the previous replies! What suggests it's 1999?

EDIT: I just googled it, fair enough!

MCU Wiki suggests Wanda was born in '89 and the bombing took place when she was 10.

[JayTL]

Does Wanda know

[Show spoiler]her kids are real? She knows Vision isn't.
She knows the people are under a spell. To me it's weird how she's not amazed she came up with people the way she did lol

[Johnny Blu]

I still can't believe she drives a Buick.

[JayTL]

Originally Posted by Johnny Blu

I still can't believe she drives a Buick.

The way she's been flying, that's all I'd do lol

[Thebunk]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

I dunno

[Show spoiler]the military dude (Hayward?) seemed to be the one to plant the idea in her head to just bring vision back to life. That conversation felt pretty weird and like a hint. Might be looking into it though.

The thing is this whole series have been full of either hints or red herrings (I.e. Wonderman in the background in one of the windows).

I think people have their hopes set high that we are going to see Nightmare or Mephisto or a “cameo” (I.e. not a big bad or anyone driving the plot) like Magneto or someone.

I think if the bads are only Agatha from the supernatural side of things and Hayward as the military dude trying to make things right but not a secret bad dude in disguise, I think we will have another Last Jedi on our hands.

Like someone else said, hopefully they can stick the landing . . .

[BillieCassin]

Originally Posted by JayTL

That doesn't bother me, since it can just be unreliable memories, or Agatha messing with her, or Wanda just being nostalgic.

I just presumed some of them were Russian bootlegs.

[blakninja]

Did Tony Stark build missiles in 1999?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by blakninja

Did Tony Stark build missiles in 1999?

In a cave...from scraps!