Predator (1987) (Ultimate Hunter Edition) - Page 76 - Blu-ray Forum

PeterTHX · 06-25-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Nick

You know that saying .. 'that a picture speaks a thousand words' ....

http://www.imagebam.com/image/606b8b84038010

Is that Arnie or his Madame Tussauds wax figure

Thousand words, not posted a thousand times.

headcheese_bbq · 06-25-2010, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Thousand words, not posted a thousand times.

lol

BouCoupDinkyDau · 06-25-2010, 09:16 PM

It sounds more and more like I will be picking up the first disk and waiting for the inevitable 30th Anniversary remaster.

DetroitSportsFan · 06-25-2010, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

It sounds more and more like I will be picking up the first disk and waiting for the inevitable 30th Anniversary remaster.

A 25th anniversary remaster in 2012 sounds better. And I mean a REAL remaster.

Stu123 · 06-25-2010, 09:34 PM

I'm really angry about this new version.Releasing a blu with not very good picture quality is one thing but then releasing it again with something thats even worse than the first effort ! its a god dam waxy spray painted grain scrubbed contrast blasted blur fest! fox have sh** on me with this.Bring back the volcanic ash grain shower version all is forgiven

TheOneWithThePrize · 06-25-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by loyis7

My Country is not listed in the section you gave me my friend

That means i am an orphan in this forum...

There is no subforum for Greece but the general International forum is non-country specific which includes Greece and all the rest.

sharkcohen · 06-25-2010, 09:49 PM

All they needed to do was take their existing master and re encode with AVC and a higher bitrate, but instead they give us this craptastic 'remaster'.

ClaytonMG · 06-25-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sharkcohen

All the needed to do was take their existing master and re encode with AVC and a higher bitrate, but instead they give us this craptastic 'remaster'.

I seriously doubt that would help that much. They probably simply just needed to do a new scan.

Also, how many times is that one frame going to be posted here? We get it, he looks like wax. There's no need for the same exact frame to continue to be posted.

BouCoupDinkyDau · 06-25-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stubiedoo

I'm really angry about this new version.Releasing a blu with not very good picture quality is one thing but then releasing it again with something thats even worse than the first effort ! its a god dam waxy spray painted grain scrubbed contrast blasted blur fest! fox have sh** on me with this.Bring back the volcanic ash grain shower version all is forgiven

Vote with your wallet. Do not buy the new disk and give it bad word-of-mouth to whoever you can. Fox wants to make money and they know this is one of their big titles. If you vote with your wallet, they will comply with our wishes in a future release.

jjbsn5192 · 06-25-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Vote with your wallet. Do not buy the new disk and give it bad word-of-mouth to whoever you can. Fox wants to make money and they know this is one of their big titles. If you vote with your wallet, they will comply with our wishes in a future release.

stick with this guy
he knows his stuff

drtre81 · 06-25-2010, 11:05 PM

You guys are overreacting. I mean I could see if the entire movie looked that way but based on all the pics shown to date, that is not the case. It's ONE scene people. All other complaints were that it looked like a new movie....ummm.... what's wrong with that?

I don't buy old movies because they look old...I buy them because they are good movies.

If you found out it was the directors intent for predator to be in black and white, would you not buy the colored version?

Buy the version that LOOKS BEST TO YOU, not the director. And who cares how it looked in the movies? I'm pretty sure the old disk blows away the pq that was shown in those cheap ass theaters in 1987. Ut oh! Better break out the dvd version for closer to what you saw at the movies!

BouCoupDinkyDau · 06-25-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by drtre81

I don't buy old movies because they look old...I buy them because they are good movies.

If PQ means nothing to you, then why are you collecting in this format?

drtre81 · 06-25-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

If PQ means nothing to you, then why are you collecting in this format?

Where did I say that?

And you have it backwards. The new version has a higher bitrate and it showing more detail. Meaning it technically has BETTER PQ. What people don't like is how it got there.

I don't like that they removed all the grain but outside of the early sequence(which looked trash on all versions) the new one looks as good or better in every other shot. Plus all the extras.

Dotpattern · 06-25-2010, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by drtre81

If you found out it was the directors intent for predator to be in black and white, would you not buy the colored version?

Uhhh...no. Just like I would never buy a colorized version of Psycho or Casablanca or Schindler's List or any other movie "intentionally" shot in black and white.

Q? · 06-25-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by drtre81

Where did I say that?

And you have it backwards. The new version has a higher bitrate and it showing more detail. Meaning it technically has BETTER PQ. What people don't like is how it got there.

I don't like that they removed all the grain but outside of the early sequence(which looked trash on all versions) the new one looks as good or better in every other shot. Plus all the extras.

Heavily applied DNR doesn't magically add detail though. Quite the contrary...

drtre81 · 06-25-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Q!

Heavily applied DNR doesn't magically add detail though. Quite the contrary...

No but the 50% bitrate increase and 100% file size increase did.

drtre81 · 06-25-2010, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dotpattern

Uhhh...no. Just like I would never buy a colorized version of Psycho or Casablanca or Schindler's List or any other movie "intentionally" shot in black and white.

I'm talking about if it was shot in color but the director rather it be seen in black and white. I'm not talking about Giligan's Island technicolor.

TheOneWithThePrize · 06-25-2010, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by drtre81

No but the 50% bitrate increase and 100% file size increase did.

Then why is it that I can spot missing detail in all the screenshots comparisons posted (and not just that one 'famous' shot) while you claim there is more detail?

Q? · 06-25-2010, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by drtre81

No but the 50% bitrate increase and 100% file size increase did.

All that doesn't matter though, because of heavily applied DNR. It's like pouring more water on a already filled 1 liter glass, it would not hold it. Yeah not a great example but you get it.

drtre81 · 06-25-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOneWithThePrize

Then why is it that I can spot missing detail in all the screenshots comparisons posted (and not just that one 'famous' shot) while you claim there is more detail?

Because you can't.

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06-25-2010, 09:49 PM	#1507
sharkcohen Active Member Member since:Dec 2008	All they needed to do was take their existing master and re encode with AVC and a higher bitrate, but instead they give us this craptastic 'remaster'. Last edited by sharkcohen; 06-26-2010 at 12:04 AM. Reason: typo

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06-25-2010, 09:16 PM	#1503
BouCoupDinkyDau Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Zeta II Reticuli 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:313 DVD collection:3 Blu-ray reviews: 11 Trading Score:7	It sounds more and more like I will be picking up the first disk and waiting for the inevitable 30th Anniversary remaster.

06-25-2010, 09:34 PM	#1505
Stu123 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Hadley's Hope on LV-426 4K collection:260 Blu-ray collection:559 DVD collection:392 Trading Score:9	I'm really angry about this new version.Releasing a blu with not very good picture quality is one thing but then releasing it again with something thats even worse than the first effort ! its a god dam waxy spray painted grain scrubbed contrast blasted blur fest! fox have sh** on me with this.Bring back the volcanic ash grain shower version all is forgiven

06-25-2010, 11:05 PM	#1511
drtre81 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:110	You guys are overreacting. I mean I could see if the entire movie looked that way but based on all the pics shown to date, that is not the case. It's ONE scene people. All other complaints were that it looked like a new movie....ummm.... what's wrong with that? I don't buy old movies because they look old...I buy them because they are good movies. If you found out it was the directors intent for predator to be in black and white, would you not buy the colored version? Buy the version that LOOKS BEST TO YOU, not the director. And who cares how it looked in the movies? I'm pretty sure the old disk blows away the pq that was shown in those cheap ass theaters in 1987. Ut oh! Better break out the dvd version for closer to what you saw at the movies!

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