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Bond84 · 02-05-2019, 09:50 PM

A free copy of the Studio Canal disc fell into my lap yesterday. Good grief, the black levels are horrendous! The resolution and colors were decent but my goodness...probably the worst black levels I've seen on UHD yet.

PeterTHX · 02-06-2019, 01:23 AM

Streaming versions on Vudu are Dolby Vision...

BNex99 · 02-13-2019, 04:55 AM

Been looking up info on all the various editions. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when it comes to PART II:

Original LG BD: Ancient, DVD-era master.

2011 SC remaster: Good picture quality, but inexplicably misframed.

2018 UHD: Excellent resolution/clarity, but black levels are elevated and colors are weird.

And all of them have the same flat-sounding 5.1 track?

DR Herbert West · 02-13-2019, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BNex99

Been looking up info on all the various editions. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when it comes to PART II:

Original LG BD: Ancient, DVD-era master.

2011 SC remaster: Good picture quality, but inexplicably misframed.

2018 UHD: Excellent resolution/clarity, but black levels are elevated and colors are weird.

And all of them have the same flat-sounding 5.1 track?

Correct.

Bates_Motel · 02-13-2019, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BNex99

Been looking up info on all the various editions. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when it comes to PART II:

Original LG BD: Ancient, DVD-era master.

2011 SC remaster: Good picture quality, but inexplicably misframed.

2018 UHD: Excellent resolution/clarity, but black levels are elevated and colors are weird.

And all of them have the same flat-sounding 5.1 track?

The colors aren't particularly weird, but it's been tealed in the blacks, so most of the blacks have a blu-ish cast which gives it a colder feel even if it's not immediately evident.

The Beast Within · 02-13-2019, 07:49 AM

Just after reading the last few posts here, but I had thought both the UK/Euro release of First Blood and the US were the same in terms of PQ, am I wrong? Was going to order it from WOW HD which would be the US edition anyway, but just want to be sure.

DR Herbert West · 02-13-2019, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Beast Within

I had thought both the UK/Euro release of First Blood and the US were the same in terms of PQ, am I wrong? Was going to order it from WOW HD which would be the US edition anyway, but just want to be sure.

They're the same.

The Beast Within · 02-13-2019, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

They're the same.

Excellent, thanks.

Blu Ray McHone · 02-16-2019, 03:34 PM

Any idea on when we'll get Rambo IV in UHD?

Fat Phil · 02-16-2019, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Ray McHone

Any idea on when we'll get Rambo IV in UHD?

One would hope they'd release it in the fall to coincide with Last Blood.

Noremac Mij · 02-16-2019, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond84

A free copy of the Studio Canal disc fell into my lap yesterday. Good grief, the black levels are horrendous! The resolution and colors were decent but my goodness...probably the worst black levels I've seen on UHD yet.

Make sure your TV is set to proper gamma of 2.4.

StingingVelvet · 02-16-2019, 07:45 PM

That being proper is debatable for sure, but I do think a higher gamma benefits a lot of modern releases.

Noremac Mij · 02-16-2019, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

That being proper is debatable for sure, but I do think a higher gamma benefits a lot of modern releases.

Proper would be even higher, such as 2.5+. That’s how real movies look like. Gamma of 2.2 is what anti black crush crusaders use and then complain of a washed out look.

StingingVelvet · 02-16-2019, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Proper would be even higher, such as 2.5+. That’s how real movies look like. Gamma of 2.2 is what anti black crush crusaders use and then complain of a washed out look.

Many professionals still say 2.2 is the industry standard and should be used. I know the arguments against that, especially for a dark room, but that doesn't make it untrue. Hence "debatable." Though as I said, I do think in a pitch dark room a higher gamma makes sense now-a-days.

Fendergopher · 02-16-2019, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Proper would be even higher, such as 2.5+. That’s how real movies look like. Gamma of 2.2 is what anti black crush crusaders use and then complain of a washed out look.

What is a "real movie"? A showprint? An answer print? An internegative? What a meaningless term to use.

Noremac Mij · 02-16-2019, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fendergopher

What is a "real movie"? A showprint? An answer print? An internegative? What a meaningless term to use.

A theatrical 35mm print. Nothing else matters.

StingingVelvet · 02-16-2019, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

A theatrical 35mm print. Nothing else matters.

Why are you into UHD at all if that's your standard? HDR and 4k detail are pretty revisionist compared to what an 80's theater showed.

Fendergopher · 02-16-2019, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

A theatrical 35mm print. Nothing else matters.

Sure wish I had access to 35mm prints at home like you do then, must be a fantastic experience since nothing else matters. I'm envious, really.

Noremac Mij · 02-16-2019, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Why are you into UHD at all if that's your standard? HDR and 4k detail are pretty revisionist compared to what an 80's theater showed.

Because I don’t mind the extra detail. I care for the overall aesthetic. UHD, HDR, and OLED are giving me the closest thing to 35mm print at home that I’ve ever seen. And I’m loving it tremendously!

Noremac Mij · 02-16-2019, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fendergopher

Sure wish I had access to 35mm prints at home like you do then, must be a fantastic experience since nothing else matters. I'm envious, really.

I have a few...

02-05-2019, 09:50 PM	#1541
Bond84 Senior Member Member since:Jun 2011 4K collection:209 Blu-ray collection:599 Trading Score:50	A free copy of the Studio Canal disc fell into my lap yesterday. Good grief, the black levels are horrendous! The resolution and colors were decent but my goodness...probably the worst black levels I've seen on UHD yet.

02-06-2019, 01:23 AM	#1542
PeterTHX Banned Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray collection:563 Trading Score:14	Streaming versions on Vudu are Dolby Vision...

02-13-2019, 04:55 AM	#1543
BNex99 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2014	Been looking up info on all the various editions. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when it comes to PART II: Original LG BD: Ancient, DVD-era master. 2011 SC remaster: Good picture quality, but inexplicably misframed. 2018 UHD: Excellent resolution/clarity, but black levels are elevated and colors are weird. And all of them have the same flat-sounding 5.1 track?

02-13-2019, 07:49 AM	#1546
The Beast Within Active Member Member since:Sep 2018 Location:Cork, Ireland 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:382	Just after reading the last few posts here, but I had thought both the UK/Euro release of First Blood and the US were the same in terms of PQ, am I wrong? Was going to order it from WOW HD which would be the US edition anyway, but just want to be sure.

02-16-2019, 03:34 PM	#1549
Blu Ray McHone Expert Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Ohio Blu-ray reviews: 2	Any idea on when we'll get Rambo IV in UHD?

02-16-2019, 07:45 PM	#1552
StingingVelvet Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jan 2014 Location:Philadelphia, PA 4K collection:852 Blu-ray collection:2331 DVD collection:111 Digital collection:12 Trading Score:69	That being proper is debatable for sure, but I do think a higher gamma benefits a lot of modern releases.

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