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Old 02-28-2021, 02:54 PM   #1541
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Okay, enough of spreading these unfounded fears. Streaming may not be perfect...yet, yet being the key word. It’s not normally as uncompressed as the average disc (which is also technically compressed) but unless we go back to the stone ages anytime soon, it will only get better. Also, people act like studios will struggle to keep their libraries up to date. Ridiculous. Even if someone watches the most obscure thing imaginable (which should not be compared to mainstream popular movies, btw!) and it only gets watched one time, it’s no skin off Disney’s nose to keep it on their service. Many quake in fear over not owning the physical copy of something, but we’ve been doing this with music files for decades at this point and haven’t been losing songs en masse, if at all. And to top it off there are many many options when it comes to streaming movies/television (and they all almost always share their libraries with each other, if you take 5 seconds out of your day to connect them) whereas there are technically really only two major music streaming services IMO (who don’t run around and delete your privately uploaded libraries btw). Streaming connectivity and studios streaming platforms are only become more diverse, not less! Also, people bemoan licensing agreements but I don’t see that being a major issue in the long run. Look at the drama over Disney losing Home Alone last year as an example. It’s already back on D+. Licensing issues are a fact of life but they are also temporary. Unless Disney starts entering into temporary licensing agreements with studios/movies they will never own, these issues will no longer be issues in a few contract cycles. And even if you stream the most obscure thing imaginable like some random BBC show that lasted 2.5 episodes in 1973, it should be no skin off the original content owners nose to keep it on their streaming service, streaming services do not have the limits shelf space does; it should not matter how obscure/popular it is, and it would be a mistake to compare the most obscure content to the most popular content anyway. Infinity War is not ever going to be at risk, for example. With all of that said, sure I guess you are never going to have a physical copy of the movie on your shelf and you might never be able to stream Song of the South, but as I said before, the obscure should not be compared to the mainstream, and we don’t technically know that Disney won’t ever change their minds. But that’s the only real difference I’m seeing between the two in the long run. Again baring the scenario where we all end sending mankind back to the stone age, things will only get better.
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Okay, enough of spreading these unfounded fears. Streaming may not be perfect...yet, yet being the key word. It’s not normally as uncompressed as the average disc (which is also technically compressed) but unless we go back to the stone ages anytime soon, it will only get better.

Also, people act like studios will struggle to keep their libraries up to date. Ridiculous. Even if someone watches the most obscure thing imaginable (which should not be compared to mainstream popular movies, btw!) and it only gets watched one time, it’s no skin off Disney’s nose to keep it on their service. Many quake in fear over not owning the physical copy of something, but we’ve been doing this with music files for decades at this point and haven’t been losing songs en masse, if at all.

And to top it off there are many many options when it comes to streaming movies/television (and they all almost always share their libraries with each other, if you take 5 seconds out of your day to connect them) whereas there are technically really only two major music streaming services IMO (who don’t run around and delete your privately uploaded libraries btw).

Streaming connectivity and studios streaming platforms are only becoming more diverse, not less! Also, people bemoan licensing agreements but I don’t see that being a major issue in the long run. Look at the drama over Disney losing Home Alone last year as an example. It’s already back on D+. Licensing issues are a fact of life but they are also temporary. Unless Disney starts entering into temporary licensing agreements with studios/movies they will never own, these issues will no longer be issues in a few contract cycles.

And even if you stream the most obscure thing imaginable like some random BBC show that lasted 2.5 episodes in 1973, it should be no skin off the original content owners nose to keep it on their streaming service, streaming services do not have the limits shelf space does; it should not matter how obscure/popular it is, and it would be a mistake to compare the most obscure content to the most popular content anyway. Infinity War is not ever going to be at risk, for example.

With all of that said, sure I guess you are never going to have a physical copy of the movie on your shelf and you might never be able to stream Song of the South, but as I said before, the obscure should not be compared to the mainstream, and we don’t technically know that Disney won’t ever change their minds. But that’s the only real difference I’m seeing between the two in the long run. Again baring the scenario where we all end sending mankind back to the stone age, things will only get better.
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Old 02-28-2021, 03:00 PM   #1543
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But there’s no other explanation yet. The multiverse isn’t open yet, people can’t yet travel between universes in MCU. So how did Fox Pietro come into this universe?

I think Fietro might still be an ordinary Westview citizen.
We still have another episode, this story isn't complete yet. Plus we also might not know until later. There is a chance you're correct. I don't think so, but I'm keeping my mind open.
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Old 02-28-2021, 03:14 PM   #1544
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We learned that she hexed the bomb, we learned that the sitcoms are her happy place, we learned she did not steal Visions body, we learned why she picked West View, we learned that the stone choose her, and there was a time skip on the recording.
It was never confirmed Wanda used a hex. That was only Agatha’s assumption.
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Old 02-28-2021, 03:16 PM   #1545
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Okay, enough of spreading these unfounded fears. Streaming may not be perfect...yet, yet being the key word. It’s not normally as uncompressed as the average disc (which is also technically compressed) but unless we go back to the stone ages anytime soon, it will only get better.

Also, people act like studios will struggle to keep their libraries up to date. Ridiculous. Even if someone watches the most obscure thing imaginable (which should not be compared to mainstream popular movies, btw!) and it only gets watched one time, it’s no skin off Disney’s nose to keep it on their service. Many quake in fear over not owning the physical copy of something, but we’ve been doing this with music files for decades at this point and haven’t been losing songs en masse, if at all.

And to top it off there are many many options when it comes to streaming movies/television (and they all almost always share their libraries with each other, if you take 5 seconds out of your day to connect them) whereas there are technically really only two major music streaming services IMO (who don’t run around and delete your privately uploaded libraries btw).

Streaming connectivity and studios streaming platforms are only becoming more diverse, not less! Also, people bemoan licensing agreements but I don’t see that being a major issue in the long run. Look at the drama over Disney losing Home Alone last year as an example. It’s already back on D+. Licensing issues are a fact of life but they are also temporary. Unless Disney starts entering into temporary licensing agreements with studios/movies they will never own, these issues will no longer be issues in a few contract cycles.

And even if you stream the most obscure thing imaginable like some random BBC show that lasted 2.5 episodes in 1973, it should be no skin off the original content owners nose to keep it on their streaming service, streaming services do not have the limits shelf space does; it should not matter how obscure/popular it is, and it would be a mistake to compare the most obscure content to the most popular content anyway. Infinity War is not ever going to be at risk, for example.

With all of that said, sure I guess you are never going to have a physical copy of the movie on your shelf and you might never be able to stream Song of the South, but as I said before, the obscure should not be compared to the mainstream, and we don’t technically know that Disney won’t ever change their minds. But that’s the only real difference I’m seeing between the two in the long run. Again baring the scenario where we all end sending mankind back to the stone age, things will only get better.
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Old 02-28-2021, 03:22 PM   #1546
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Excuse me sir, this is a Wendy’s
That reminds me of another point, these streaming platforms have a product to sell, they’ll want to increase their customer base, not decrease it, when at all possible.
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Old 02-28-2021, 03:23 PM   #1547
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Old 02-28-2021, 03:39 PM   #1548
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Well, thread has turned into a circus.

I can’t wait for the final episode so fan theories and hopes can be addressed. I loved that
[Show spoiler]Wanda’s first encounter with the Mind Stone started the path on her love for Vision.

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Old 02-28-2021, 03:44 PM   #1549
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We still have another episode, this story isn't complete yet. Plus we also might not know until later. There is a chance you're correct. I don't think so, but I'm keeping my mind open.
Thank you for saying this.

I feel like a lot of people all over the internet are taking a lack of evidence to mean there’s no way he’s the Fox Quicksilver. Like just be patient and wait for answers, please.

I’m fine if he’s an ordinary person, but I’m not going to stop believing he might be from the Fox universe until the show gives us an actual answer who he is, and that’s sure to happen in episode 9.
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Old 02-28-2021, 04:24 PM   #1550
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It was never confirmed Wanda used a hex. That was only Agatha’s assumption.
No one's really talking about how this whole thing could have been Agatha manipulating her. She could have planted some memories in there (and explain any continuity issues people have)

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Well, thread has turned into a circus.

I can’t wait for the final episode so fan theories and hopes can be addressed. I loved that
[Show spoiler]Wanda’s first encounter with the Mind Stone started the oath on her love for Vision.
And might have shown why
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I want a Disney+ series based on Agatha Harkness' time during the Salem Witch Trials.
I suppose that could be interesting. I found her more interesting as a quirky neighbor. Now we know she’s basically part of a female Palpatine coven who shoots colored light from their fingers and apparently can’t stop even when it kills them.
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I want a Disney+ series based on Agatha Harkness' time during the Salem Witch Trials.
I was saying to myself from the moment she was confirmed to be Agatha at the end of Ep 7 that I really hope they give her a decent backstory and don't just make her a sudden foe to match Wanda's powers. I was delighted when we got something like 1600s Salem as a backstory for her. That whole sequence- and those damn freaky soul-sucked corpses- was awesomely dark and something I hope the MCU embraces in the future in stuff like Doctor Strange 2, etc.

They could've very easily just not done anything there, but honestly this show is just too smart and too well-crafted.
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Old 02-28-2021, 05:17 PM   #1554
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I was saying to myself from the moment she was confirmed to be Agatha at the end of Ep 7 that I really hope they give her a decent backstory and don't just make her a sudden foe to match Wanda's powers. I was delighted when we got something like 1600s Salem as a backstory for her. They could've very easily just not done anything there.
My wife, who will watch this stuff with me but isn't exactly 'enthralled' by genre filmmaking, really loved that sequence. We were discussing the possibilities of what they could do with her character set in that era, especially considering how awesome Kathryn Hahn has been in the role so far.

Hopefully she doesn't die in the finale. Would love to see her continue being a recurring character in the MCU for a bit going forward.
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My wife, who will watch this stuff with me but isn't exactly 'enthralled' by genre filmmaking, really loved that sequence. We were discussing the possibilities of what they could do with her character set in that era, especially considering how awesome Kathryn Hahn has been in the role so far.

Hopefully she doesn't die in the finale. Would love to see her continue being a recurring character in the MCU for a bit going forward.
I truly hope she's not a one-and-done. We know Wanda's story will continue in Strange 2 next year and that Agatha more than likely either won't show up there or will have a small role next to the movie's big baddie (Mephisto still comes to mind honestly), but I hope we see her again.

The way they had her look at the end of this recent episode was so wicked (no pun intended). They really made her look like a villain and not just like Kathryn Hahn in a costume.
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I truly hope she's not a one-and-done. We know Wanda's story will continue in Strange 2 next year and that Agatha more than likely either won't show up there or will have a small role next to the movie's big baddie (Mephisto still comes to mind honestly), but I hope we see her again.

The way they had her look at the end of this recent episode was so wicked (no pun intended). They really made her look like a villain and not just like Kathryn Hahn in a costume.
The combination of her practical costume and the particle effects were really cool.

She's honestly probably the coolest villain in the MCU since Loki. I mean that in the sense that even if you want to hate them, it's hard to. They're villains you enjoy watching based on both the performance and body language they use.
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But there’s no other explanation yet. The multiverse isn’t open yet, people can’t yet travel between universes in MCU. So how did Fox Pietro come into this universe?

I think Fietro might still be an ordinary Westview citizen.
Again several people have. In the mutliverse there is no difference between the alt timelines created in Endgame and the Foxverse. One just happened to be way different than the other.
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Exactly! The ONLY reason its Evan Peters is to make a joke about recasting classic sitcom characters. It has ZERO to do with FOX X MEN multiverse rubbish.
Nope.
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Again several people have. In the mutliverse there is no difference between the alt timelines created in Endgame and the Foxverse. One just happened to be way different than the other.
Those branched realities of Endgame were fixed once Steve placed the Stones back where they rightfully belonged.
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Those branched realities of Endgame were fixed once Steve placed the Stones back where they rightfully belonged.
Even the one he changed by being with Peggy? Or the one where Loki escaped with the Tessaract? Or how about the one where Thanos doesn't exist in Guardians of the Galaxy due to him traveling to the future in Endgame? Everyone thinks everything was fixed, but we just don't know. So far we've only seen the main MCU timeline. As they say in WandaVision: Please Stand By.
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