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Old 02-28-2021, 09:58 PM   #1561
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Even the one he changed by being with Peggy? Or the one where Loki escaped with the Tessaract? Or how about the one where Thanos doesn't exist in Guardians of the Galaxy due to him traveling to the future in Endgame? Everyone thinks everything was fixed, but we just don't know. So far we've only seen the main MCU timeline. As they say in WandaVision: Please Stand By.
Based off the Russo’s comments, they explained that Steve stayed in a branched reality with Peggy to grow old and jumped into the “main” timeline when meeting Sam and Bucky.
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Old 02-28-2021, 10:41 PM   #1562
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Just consider the AI choices from this clip. I don't think S.W.O.R.D. would be stupid enough to go with anything that could go totally independent with a artificial being. It would likely be something they control totally.
I don't know the comics, have never read a fraction of the things you guys have, so I don't know jack squat about SWORD....but....I've worked a long time, and I can tell you this with absolute certainty....all it takes to completely @#$% a project is one person high enough up the signal chain with other agendas, and Hayward is apparently maybe kinda that sort of person, and if he's running the show, all you can do is take a deep breath and watch the train go off the rails. I don't trust Hayward at all, and know nothing about SWORD. Why trust SWORD? At this point, I don't trust anybody but live in hope. So, maybe Hayward as a big baddie is a head-fake, or it's been there all along.

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Old 02-28-2021, 10:57 PM   #1563
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I think this show could get some Emmy nominations.
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Old 02-28-2021, 11:32 PM   #1564
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I don't know the comics, have never read a fraction of the things you guys have, so I don't know jack squat about SWORD....but....I've worked a long time, and I can tell you this with absolute certainty....all it takes to completely @#$% a project is one person high enough up the signal chain with other agendas, and Hayward is apparently maybe kinda that sort of person, and if he's running the show, all you can do is take a deep breath and watch the train go off the rails. I don't trust Hayward at all, and know nothing about SWORD. Why trust SWORD? At this point, I don't trust anybody but live in hope. So, maybe Hayward as a big baddie is a head-fake, or it's been there all along.

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This SWORD is completely different from the comics. SWORD is suppose to be SHIELD/X-Men in space, but they come off as regular FBI agents in WandaVision for some reason.

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Old 02-28-2021, 11:36 PM   #1565
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Old 02-28-2021, 11:38 PM   #1566
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I just watched episode 8 for the secondo time and it's truly so great. So much great acting, Elizabeth Olsen, Kathryn Hahn, and Paul Bettany are ridiculously great. The Bettany speech to the grieving Wanda was so terrific.

I'm going to make a little prediction. The young actress who played young Wanda is going to be a star. That little one lit up the screen. She's going to have a nice career.
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Old 02-28-2021, 11:48 PM   #1567
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This SWORD is completely different from the comics. SWORD is suppose to be SHIELD/X-Men in space, but they come off as regular FBI agents in WandaVision for some reason.
I wonder what that reason is?

Jimmy Woo is an FBI agent, but Monica Rambeau was told she was currently grounded (no space missions) because she just returned from the snap, a policy put in place when her mother was in charge, believing people would return. They did use a SWORD rover though.
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I wonder what that reason is?

Jimmy Woo is an FBI agent, but Monica Rambeau was told she was currently grounded (no space missions) because she just returned from the snap, a policy put in place when her mother was in charge, believing people would return. They did use a SWORD rover though.
I think they have a plan. This is not the same SWORD from the comics, so I think Feige just wants to slowly build to that SWORD in their prime. Hell, Hayworth isn't even the head of SWORD in the comics. Abigail Brand is.
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Old 03-01-2021, 12:09 AM   #1570
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I think they have a plan. This is not the same SWORD from the comics, so I think Feige just wants to slowly build to that SWORD in their prime. Hell, Hayworth isn't even the head of SWORD in the comics. Abigail Brand is.
They wouldn't mention her not being allowed on space missions if they were't already doing space missions. Also, this isn't a SWORD series, it's WandaVision and they're in New Jersey.
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Those branched realities of Endgame were fixed once Steve placed the Stones back where they rightfully belonged.
No they weren't. They...just had the stones put back. Those timelines didn't just cease to exist. Like donut said, they're basing a whole ass show on one of the timelines at the very least. And that's if that's what causes a multiverse. Maybe it already existed. Maybe wanda causes it. Etc etc
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Old 03-01-2021, 01:08 AM   #1572
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Those branched realities of Endgame were fixed once Steve placed the Stones back where they rightfully belonged.
Yeah no, every little change makes a new timeline. Hell, Loki's ENTIRE SHOW is about an alternate Loki. Plus Cap started a new timeline when he went back and lived with Peggy.
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No they weren't. They...just had the stones put back. Those timelines didn't just cease to exist. Like donut said, they're basing a whole ass show on one of the timelines at the very least. And that's if that's what causes a multiverse. Maybe it already existed. Maybe wanda causes it. Etc etc
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Yeah no, every little change makes a new timeline. Hell, Loki's ENTIRE SHOW is about an alternate Loki. Plus Cap started a new timeline when he went back and lived with Peggy.
Did nobody pay attention to this scene?

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Changing the past doesn't change the future.

There are infinite timelines. There is a timeline where Banner/Hulk never even came to that roof. There's a timeline where Thanos never made the first snap because that Thanos traveled to the timeline from Endgame. It goes on and on.
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I want a Disney+ series based on Agatha Harkness' time during the Salem Witch Trials.
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I was saying to myself from the moment she was confirmed to be Agatha at the end of Ep 7 that I really hope they give her a decent backstory and don't just make her a sudden foe to match Wanda's powers.
I guess great minds think alike - I feel exactly the same, I keep fantasizing a Marvel presentation in my head where they show a creepily awesome "Agatha" logo for a new Disney+ series, and thinking just how crazy someone would think you were if you went back even five years and said Agatha Harkness would be a break-out Marvel character - they would put you in Arkham.

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I think this show could get some Emmy nominations.
Oh, I think that is clear - and I won't be surprised whatsoever if it wins a number of them. I said it earlier, but in a "normal" year, this show would be an awards contender. In this year in particular, with all the production issues? I won't be surprised if it sweeps up an armful of them.

I also think we just saw Kathryn Hahn have a Melissa McCarthy-like break-out.
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Something that could be important: Last week's episode had Debra Jo Rupp in the main credits. This week was the same. But she had just a few seconds of screen time.
Doing a search, I found that there's some Hart characters in Marvel, especially one Jack of Hearts, member of the Avengers and Shield. His mother was an alien that was sent to earth to keep an eye on Philip Hart who developed "zero fluid" and whom she eventually married. Is "Mr. Hart" the man in "witness protection" that Jimmy went to look for? Making "Mrs. Hart" (Debra Jo Rupp's character) this alien and mother of Jack?
Crazy theory: is Evan Peters this Jack of Hearts?
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Did nobody pay attention to this scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNBK...ature=youtu.be
DUDE. Loki stole the tesseract and got away, that's an alternate timeline right there. You can't change the past, Back to the future is bullshit.

Putting the stones back closed off dark timelines to exist aka one's where the stones had been stolen. But they still exist as alternate timelines since originally the stones were never stolen.
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I want a Disney+ series based on Agatha Harkness' time during the Salem Witch Trials.
I really liked how dark it was, never expected to see the Salem Witch Trials.
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Did nobody pay attention to this scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNBK...ature=youtu.be
Yep. But you are missing that the space stone is in Lokis possession. So even if Steve returned it back where he got it a branch is created. A branch was created in End Game as well. Caps shield was destroyed the shield he gave Sam was not that shield.
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Yes, Agatha did not cast a necromancy spell or a creation spell, it is a straight-up possession spell.

I think Agatha possessed this Westwood chump to go emotionally manipulate Wanda. Wanda believed this chump was Pietro and gave him powers (that is why he has superspeed because an ordinary citizen wouldn't).

So maybe once Wanda stopped believing him to be Pietro he lost his superspeed and once Agatha lifts her spell, he will go back to be being an ordinary citizen.
Yet, Agatha demonstrated a transmutation spell as well as the possession spell on the moth, alluding to the fact that Fietro may be someone or something else transmutated. Maybe she couldn't make him look like Aaron Taylor Johnson because she's never seen footage of him? I think he still has superspeed to sneak up on Monica.
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