The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey 3D Blu-ray (2012) [Region Free] [Both Cuts]

[AmrlKJaneway]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

You make it seem like its never been done, when, on the contrary….it has, namely with an 800 Mbps 4K 3D DCP.

Here….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...on#post7301181

I should have said feature length film. Everything has been tested.

Very interesting read, thanks for posting! A guy called Douglas Trumball is planning a sci-fi epic at 120fps, and in the seventies he showed off test reels of 70mm film that ran at 60fps!

We'll see 4k 3D in commercial feature films soon enough, though. Avatar 2, 4k 3D @ 60fps, maybe?

[Lnds500]

Originally Posted by AmrlKJaneway

Very interesting read, thanks for posting! A guy called Douglas Trumball is planning a sci-fi epic at 120fps, and in the seventies he showed off test reels of 70mm film that ran at 60fps!

Man you don't call Douglas Trumbull "a guy".

[bazh2002]

Originally Posted by fitprod

Can do it. Current TVs or Blu-ray specs can't do HFR @ 48fps. Both require new TVs and Blu-ray players.

You'll have to wait for 4K, and they haven't even dealt with how it will handle the 3D specs, if they use the HFR concept. (Hell, that's not even settled since we technically have 2 versions, even though 60fps will not show up until at least 2015 or whenever Avatar 2 actually arrives.)

fitprod

Hobbit to 48fps or any movie to 48fps Panasonic 3d TV set to setup/other settings/intelligent frame creation on, you feel like your actually on the set of the movie.Panasonic 3d tv 48fps

[Daytrader]

I would hate that thou, to false looking, like watching a long making of documentary, its bad enough now that most films look like a extended soap episode on LED screens, well to me anyway, better on plasma thou, i miss the film like exsperience that we use to get on the crt sets, why oh why did they not go HD on them, size of the sets would not have bothered me, quality above anything else for me every time.

[srinivas1015]

Originally Posted by Daytrader

I would hate that thou, to false looking, like watching a long making of documentary, its bad enough now that most films look like a extended soap episode on LED screens, well to me anyway, better on plasma thou, i miss the film like exsperience that we use to get on the crt sets, why oh why did they not go HD on them, size of the sets would not have bothered me, quality above anything else for me every time.

1)No they don't. The way a TV is lit has nothing to do with the way motion is perceived. If frame interpolation is turned on on a plasma, then that too will look like a 'soap opera'.
2)Play a BD at 24p or better yet, switch to a DLP projector and you won't complain about it not being 'filmic'.



IMO, 24hz just doesn't cut it for 3D due to the motion.

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by srinivas1015

1)
IMO, 24hz just doesn't cut it for 3D due to the motion.

From my experience 3D 24hz motion is not a problem with the HMZT-1 OLED displays.

[i007spectre]

Watched last night, enjoyed the 3D.

[Zivouhr]

Hobbit's 3D looks much better the farther I sit back. Maybe 5 to 6 foot from the 3DTV. It gives the 3D room to breathe and really pop compared to sitting 2 foot next to the set.

[levcore]

Having rewatched this several times since UK release day on Monday, the 3D is great, but i do find that when things start getting a bit frantic on screen, if there is a lot of fast moving action or quick cuts, i can barely tell whats going on, and characters are incredibly hard to focus on. Does anyone else find this problem?

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by levcore

Having rewatched this several times since UK release day on Monday, the 3D is great, but i do find that when things start getting a bit frantic on screen, if there is a lot of fast moving action or quick cuts, i can barely tell whats going on, and characters are incredibly hard to focus on. Does anyone else find this problem?

Didn't you have problems with another title the other day as well?

If you have any sort of motion (smoothing or anything that filters the image etc) effect on your tv or projector I highly recommend turning it off while watching 3D as it tend to really play havoc on the PQ, it does with my projector anyways. Also my projector switches it on itself automatically for 3D and I have to go in and turn it off manually (even though it says it isn't on) each time I watch a 3D film.

[levcore]

Originally Posted by Impossible

Didn't you have problems with another title the other day as well?

If you have any sort of motion (smoothing or anything that filters the image etc) effect on your tv or projector I highly recommend turning it off while watching 3D as it tend to really play havoc on the PQ, it does with my projector anyways. Also my projector switches it on itself automatically for 3D and I have to go in and turn it off manually (even though it says it isn't on) each time I watch a 3D film.

Yeah that was a disc sticking on me, it was Silent Hill Revelation.

I'm certain that my TV has all of its motion smoothing off when i watch 3D as i check. I've noticed the same kind of effect with Prometheus, but that doesnt have any fast cut action in it so it's barely noticeable. It's almost as if it's something that's happening with movies that were shot native. The only animation i've noticed it with is Rio.

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by levcore

Yeah that was a disc sticking on me, it was Silent Hill Revelation.

I'm certain that my TV has all of its motion smoothing off when i watch 3D as i check. I've noticed the same kind of effect with Prometheus, but that doesnt have any fast cut action in it so it's barely noticeable. It's almost as if it's something that's happening with movies that were shot native. The only animation i've noticed it with is Rio.

Ah yes Rio that was it.

Well as I say, mine switches on automatically for 3D even though it says it is set to OFF! I have to go in and toggles through the settings and set it to off myself. Give it a try. I usually just pause as soon as the first frame comes up and then toggle through the settings to off. It may not be that, but it might help.

[poke smot]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Hobbit's 3D looks much better the farther I sit back. Maybe 5 to 6 foot from the 3DTV. It gives the 3D room to breathe and really pop compared to sitting 2 foot next to the set.

who would sit three feet away? talk about eye strain.

I sit about 6-7 feet away for 3d, and 9 feet away for 2d.

[Taygan315]

Originally Posted by poke smot

who would sit three feet away? talk about eye strain.

I sit about 6-7 feet away for 3d, and 9 feet away for 2d.

Yeah...there is no way I could handle 3D that close to the set (2')

[Zivouhr]

That's true, as even the manual says "for the best 3D effect, sit 5 to 6 feet away from the 3DTV set", along those lines. 2 foot or less is too close for great 3D. 5 inches from the set, also too close.

Originally Posted by levcore

Having rewatched this several times since UK release day on Monday, the 3D is great, but i do find that when things start getting a bit frantic on screen, if there is a lot of fast moving action or quick cuts, i can barely tell whats going on, and characters are incredibly hard to focus on. Does anyone else find this problem?

I haven't noticed that, but I'd check to see if there is a "game setting" or something like that which might be adjustable. I would have a certain setting off, and everything would smear across the screen (at least in 2D, I didn't test it back then for 3D), until I adjusted that certain setting. Not sure if it applies to your set also.

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

That's true, as even the manual says "for the best 3D effect, sit 5 to 6 feet away from the 3DTV set", along those lines. 2 foot or less is too close for great 3D. 5 inches from the set, also too close.



I haven't noticed that, but I'd check to see if there is a "game setting" or something like that which might be adjustable. I would have a certain setting off, and everything would smear across the screen (at least in 2D, I didn't test it back then for 3D), until I adjusted that certain setting. Not sure if it applies to your set also.

Yeah same as my projector. It is SO annoying that these things are preset to ON! I was going to send my projector back until I stumbled across an explanation for the problem online. ******s!

[levcore]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

That's true, as even the manual says "for the best 3D effect, sit 5 to 6 feet away from the 3DTV set", along those lines. 2 foot or less is too close for great 3D. 5 inches from the set, also too close.



I haven't noticed that, but I'd check to see if there is a "game setting" or something like that which might be adjustable. I would have a certain setting off, and everything would smear across the screen (at least in 2D, I didn't test it back then for 3D), until I adjusted that certain setting. Not sure if it applies to your set also.

Thanks for the tips but i've checked everything, nothing is set to on that could be causing this problem. It makes some of the fast cut scenes and when characters are moving quickly closely to the camera almost unwatchable in terms of things strobing past the screen too quick to focus on

[Clinton3779]

Originally Posted by levcore

Thanks for the tips but i've checked everything, nothing is set to on that could be causing this problem. It makes some of the fast cut scenes and when characters are moving quickly closely to the camera almost unwatchable in terms of things strobing past the screen too quick to focus on

I was wondering if you have an LG? I had that problem and turned off my tru motion setting a while ago. I haven't had that problem since. May work for your issue as well.

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by levcore

Thanks for the tips but i've checked everything, nothing is set to on that could be causing this problem. It makes some of the fast cut scenes and when characters are moving quickly closely to the camera almost unwatchable in terms of things strobing past the screen too quick to focus on

It is definitely a motion setting somewhere that is causing the 'strobing' as that is what I would call what I was seeing on my projector. Almost like the edges of the objects in the picture are bleeding or tearing and melding over the rest of the image during fast moving scenes or pans.

Maybe do a google search on your tv model and see if anyone else is having a similar problem on forums. That's how I got my answer.

As I said above, all of my settings say they are off but they ARE NOT and when I start the film I actually have to toggle through them and reset them to off to turn it off. In the case of my projector when it switches to 24hz, the 'motion' setting changes automatically as it switches frame rate (which is why it doesn't do it in 50/60hz non 3D films) and into 3D. Yours may do the same thing. The fact it says it is 'off' doesn't mean anything. Actually go in and turn it off AFTER you have started the film and done the 24hz change over.

Sometimes you can even do it from the menu if that is in 24hz as well.

For test scenes to make sure mine is off I used to use Avatar and the scene where they first get to Pandora and that black tiger like thing is chasing him after the rhino like thing charges at him. That was the scene that had it the worst for me.

[Zivouhr]

It's true that a number of Manufacturers don't bother to make their TV sets as user-friendly as the could have. Like putting in a 3D disc, then a prompt pops on the 3DTV saying, "Switch to 3D, Yes/No?"while it's in 3D, then if you don't click right, then press enter, it switches automatically to 2D................ Vizio.
Sony's Bravia 3D is much more user friendly in that sense.