Heroes Reborn: 2015 - On NBC - Page 8 - Blu-ray Forum

JamesG. · 06-23-2015, 09:25 PM

Jett Rink · 06-23-2015, 09:27 PM

Is this show like Lost?

DisneyBlu · 06-24-2015, 12:28 AM

I rarely, rarely, rarely ever give up on a show. I was really into Heroes when it started... and I got so burned out that I missed one of the new episodes, never bothered to see it, then didn't watch the next week, and never bothered to catch up. I was just done. It got so convoluted and stupid, and so far away from what made me like it in the first place, that I bailed and never regretted my decision.

I might give this a watch (if it looks good) and if it's not dependent upon Heroes. I can't remember that mess of a "story."

Usually when I watch NBC, it's a sitcom (The Office, Parks and Rec). Besides Heroes, I've never watched one of their dramas or serious shows. I doubt Heroes Reborn will change that, but we'll see.

DanTheMan · 06-24-2015, 12:45 AM

Got a good feeling about this series being brought back. If they've listened to the feedback of the fans, they'll try to start off with the tone that S1 originally had, which is still the best season thus far IMO.

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Originally Posted by Jett Rink

Is this show like Lost?

Not at all. They don't rely on many flashbacks, and have each episode telling multiple stories at once, and not like Lost which would concentrate on one major character and show their backstory throughout the whole episode.

Jett Rink · 06-24-2015, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dantheman89

Got a good feeling about this series being brought back. If they've listened to the feedback of the fans, they'll try to start off with the tone that S1 originally had, which is still the best season thus far IMO.

Not at all. They don't rely on many flashbacks, and have each episode telling multiple stories at once, and not like Lost which would concentrate on one major character and show their backstory throughout the whole episode.

OK good, I might give it a go then.

HDMe · 06-24-2015, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dantheman89

Got a good feeling about this series being brought back. If they've listened to the feedback of the fans, they'll try to start off with the tone that S1 originally had, which is still the best season thus far IMO.

Actually... this is exactly what went wrong the first go around... listening to the fans. If they'd followed their original plans for the show instead of changing it to fit the things the fans said they liked... we would have gotten a much better show.

I'm worried that it sounds like they are once again listening to the fans in what they are doing to bring back the show.

DanTheMan · 06-24-2015, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HDMe

Actually... this is exactly what went wrong the first go around... listening to the fans. If they'd followed their original plans for the show instead of changing it to fit the things the fans said they liked... we would have gotten a much better show.

I'm worried that it sounds like they are once again listening to the fans in what they are doing to bring back the show.

I'm not familiar with what went down behind the scenes with the writers of the show, and their true intentions with the direction of the series, but are you positive they were relying too much on fan feedback for everything post-S1?

If so, they went in a completely different direction than I expected and wished for during the remainder of the series, and not for the better, so I can't see how that's the fans' fault if they indeed were requesting more of what we got in S1. If that's what you call listening to the fans, then the writers have terrible hearing problems.

I was only suggesting they go back to their roots, yet with a twist, since new characters and actors are being introduced into the storylines, while recurring characters who we're accustomed to will find their spots to fit in this "newer, updated universe." If that's considered a bad idea, then I accept that opinion, and will hope it plays out the way I would like it to when the new season premieres. My main concern is that it will be overly crowded with characters of new and old, but if they can find a way to rectify that concern, then all the better.

HDMe · 06-25-2015, 04:03 AM

I don't remember all the details... some of it was talked about on the DVD/Blu-ray releases behind-the-scenes stuff...

Season one, though, some characters lived that were originally supposed to die (like Sylar) and others died that they originally had living longer. Basically they started changing the story during season 1 to accommodate the popular and unpopular characters by fan feedback and it changed their endgame.

Season two was originally supposed to introduce more new characters and even spend more time with them... but they ended up sticking with the "familiar" ones.

The writers' strike was not a friend to Season two either... they had longer plans that got cut short so they altered the end to season two based on a combination of things and dropped some subplots almost entirely.

Season three and four kept trying to give fans what they thought they wanted... which was more of the popular characters for the most part.

Not all fans liked the show, of course, and ultimately in trying to give what they thought fans wanted they ultimately didn't do that at all... but it was in trying to listen to fans and change gears that they fell down the slippery slope.

By all accounts, and my fuzzy memory, everything I heard that was the "original" plan for the show was much better than what they ended up doing. Some of it was no doubt network tinkering too, pressuring them to change things along the way.

Samus Aran · 06-25-2015, 04:06 AM

Nothing was wrong with altering the plan to keep the same characters going. The problem was they just sucked at it. You don't know that keeping to the original plan would've been a success. They probably would've just tried to ape the first season and you'd just all the same beats over again.

One of the actors on the show talked about how the plots were basically all first acts. They would finish act one, and then start act one again. Nothing developed.

amoergosum · 06-25-2015, 05:11 PM

First look at the new series:
https://twitter.com/heroes/status/614117278720786432

Riddler The Slag · 06-25-2015, 05:41 PM

Terjyn · 06-25-2015, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HDMe

Not all fans liked the show, of course, and ultimately in trying to give what they thought fans wanted they ultimately didn't do that at all... but it was in trying to listen to fans and change gears that they fell down the slippery slope.

To me it was a case of listening to what they think the fans want, rather than what the fans actually wanted. Liking a character and having the show rewritten around them are two different things. I was sick of Sylar by the middle of season 2, much less the rest of the show.

And they seriously should be genre aware enough to know that major tweaks of a person's powers is going to peeve some fans off. Not all obviously, but when you are re-writing everybody you have a good chance to lose a whole lot of fans.

amoergosum · 06-25-2015, 06:05 PM

I'm not impressed with the teaser.

HDMe · 06-26-2015, 01:29 AM

That's what I mean by the slippery slope. Writers come up with a show, it will be good or bad and people will like it or not. But, if instead of following their instincts and writing the story that comes naturally to them, they are instead coerced by fan feedback and network intrusion to write something else... the story usually suffers. They are no longer writing what they feel natural writing.

JamesG. · 06-27-2015, 01:01 AM

Aislinn Paul Joins "Heroes: Reborn"
by Denise Petski
June 26, 2015

Aislinn Paul (Haven, Reign) has landed a recurring role on NBC’s event series "Heroes: Reborn".

Details on her role weren't made available.

http://deadline.com/2015/06/tyra-fer...rn-1201459144/

the reynholm · 07-12-2015, 10:35 PM

SDCC trailer

Zvi · 07-13-2015, 04:56 AM

Wow, looks like Hiro grew up a little bit

Looks cool, I'll definitely give it a shot, even though H4 was a real disappointment.

Groge511 · 07-13-2015, 07:21 AM

Looks brilliant! Bring it on!

TJtheDrummerPro · 07-23-2015, 09:34 PM

So... I highly suggest (if you haven't already), download the Heroes Reborn app to your smartphone. The six-part prequel they have to the reboot in the fall is BRILLIANT.

Man, Sept. 24th can't come soon enough.

celticmoon · 07-23-2015, 09:47 PM

The trailer has definitely got me intrigued. I was a little worried about so many of the old cast returning, but the fact that the advertising doesn't overly rely on them seems like a good sign.

I read an interview where Kring suggests that the upcoming series will have a definite ending, which also bodes well. Whether or not this gets a second season and goes downhill again, it should have a pretty self-contained first season, unlike Season 1 of Heroes, which fizzled into anti-climactic climax and into a cliffhanger.

Plus, he mentioned something about how its good that they will have filmed all the episodes by the time this airs, as they won't be swayed by fan reaction in order to keep characters on the show. This tells me that they are willing to retire characters that have outlived their usefulness, including killing main characters off, which isn't exactly necessary for a good show, but would make sense considering the premise of Heroes Reborn.

06-23-2015, 09:27 PM	#142
Jett Rink Banned Top contributor Member since:Oct 2012 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:154	Is this show like Lost?

06-24-2015, 12:28 AM	#143
DisneyBlu Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2011 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:212	I rarely, rarely, rarely ever give up on a show. I was really into Heroes when it started... and I got so burned out that I missed one of the new episodes, never bothered to see it, then didn't watch the next week, and never bothered to catch up. I was just done. It got so convoluted and stupid, and so far away from what made me like it in the first place, that I bailed and never regretted my decision. I might give this a watch (if it looks good) and if it's not dependent upon Heroes. I can't remember that mess of a "story." Usually when I watch NBC, it's a sitcom (The Office, Parks and Rec). Besides Heroes, I've never watched one of their dramas or serious shows. I doubt Heroes Reborn will change that, but we'll see.

06-25-2015, 04:03 AM	#148
HDMe Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2010 Location:North Augusta, SC	I don't remember all the details... some of it was talked about on the DVD/Blu-ray releases behind-the-scenes stuff... Season one, though, some characters lived that were originally supposed to die (like Sylar) and others died that they originally had living longer. Basically they started changing the story during season 1 to accommodate the popular and unpopular characters by fan feedback and it changed their endgame. Season two was originally supposed to introduce more new characters and even spend more time with them... but they ended up sticking with the "familiar" ones. The writers' strike was not a friend to Season two either... they had longer plans that got cut short so they altered the end to season two based on a combination of things and dropped some subplots almost entirely. Season three and four kept trying to give fans what they thought they wanted... which was more of the popular characters for the most part. Not all fans liked the show, of course, and ultimately in trying to give what they thought fans wanted they ultimately didn't do that at all... but it was in trying to listen to fans and change gears that they fell down the slippery slope. By all accounts, and my fuzzy memory, everything I heard that was the "original" plan for the show was much better than what they ended up doing. Some of it was no doubt network tinkering too, pressuring them to change things along the way.

06-25-2015, 04:06 AM	#149
Samus Aran Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jun 2010 Location:USA Home Theater Gallery:11 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:49 Trading Score:195	Nothing was wrong with altering the plan to keep the same characters going. The problem was they just sucked at it. You don't know that keeping to the original plan would've been a success. They probably would've just tried to ape the first season and you'd just all the same beats over again. One of the actors on the show talked about how the plots were basically all first acts. They would finish act one, and then start act one again. Nothing developed.

06-25-2015, 05:11 PM	#150
amoergosum Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2011 4K collection:171 Blu-ray collection:820 Trading Score:9	First look at the new series: https://twitter.com/heroes/status/614117278720786432

06-25-2015, 06:05 PM	#153
amoergosum Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2011 4K collection:171 Blu-ray collection:820 Trading Score:9	I'm not impressed with the teaser.

06-26-2015, 01:29 AM	#154
HDMe Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2010 Location:North Augusta, SC	That's what I mean by the slippery slope. Writers come up with a show, it will be good or bad and people will like it or not. But, if instead of following their instincts and writing the story that comes naturally to them, they are instead coerced by fan feedback and network intrusion to write something else... the story usually suffers. They are no longer writing what they feel natural writing.

06-27-2015, 01:01 AM	#155
JamesG. Power Member Member since:Jul 2012	*Aislinn Paul Joins "Heroes: Reborn"* by Denise Petski June 26, 2015 Aislinn Paul (Haven, Reign) has landed a recurring role on NBC’s event series "Heroes: Reborn". Details on her role weren't made available. http://deadline.com/2015/06/tyra-fer...rn-1201459144/

07-13-2015, 04:56 AM	#157
Zvi Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2006 Blu-ray collection:121	Wow, looks like Hiro grew up a little bit Looks cool, I'll definitely give it a shot, even though H4 was a real disappointment.

07-13-2015, 07:21 AM	#158
Groge511 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Oct 2011 Location:Scotland Home Theater Gallery:175 4K collection:69 Blu-ray collection:446 DVD collection:284 Digital collection:33 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:7	Looks brilliant! Bring it on!

07-23-2015, 09:34 PM	#159
TJtheDrummerPro Active Member Member since:Feb 2011 Location:Minn-e-so-tah	So... I highly suggest (if you haven't already), download the Heroes Reborn app to your smartphone. The six-part prequel they have to the reboot in the fall is BRILLIANT. Man, Sept. 24th can't come soon enough.

07-23-2015, 09:47 PM	#160
celticmoon Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Apr 2011 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:189 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:36	The trailer has definitely got me intrigued. I was a little worried about so many of the old cast returning, but the fact that the advertising doesn't overly rely on them seems like a good sign. I read an interview where Kring suggests that the upcoming series will have a definite ending, which also bodes well. Whether or not this gets a second season and goes downhill again, it should have a pretty self-contained first season, unlike Season 1 of Heroes, which fizzled into anti-climactic climax and into a cliffhanger. Plus, he mentioned something about how its good that they will have filmed all the episodes by the time this airs, as they won't be swayed by fan reaction in order to keep characters on the show. This tells me that they are willing to retire characters that have outlived their usefulness, including killing main characters off, which isn't exactly necessary for a good show, but would make sense considering the premise of Heroes Reborn.

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