The Martian 4K UHD (2015) - Page 8 - Blu-ray Forum

dvdmike · 01-02-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Sure, it seems to be Warners' habit to lowball pretty much everything, whereas Universal's DVDs for new releases even now are still excellent, never mind their new Blu-rays. Stuff like Lucy is simply amazing, whereas with Warners there's always this nagging feeling that they're stripping a little off the top.

Even with LD and VHS

Penton-Man · 01-02-2016, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

May, as I need more proof....

to be fair to all involved.....you certainly do.

dvdmike · 01-02-2016, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

to be fair to all involved.....you certainly do.

I have said quite clearly I may and indeed hope I am wrong

dvdmike · 01-02-2016, 09:17 PM

Ok then, and I know trailers are not fully colour timed

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/156536

saprano · 01-03-2016, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Sure, it seems to be Warners' habit to lowball pretty much everything, whereas Universal's DVDs for new releases even now are still excellent, never mind their new Blu-rays. Stuff like Lucy is simply amazing, whereas with Warners there's always this nagging feeling that they're stripping a little off the top.

Yeah you don't have to worry about that with Universal. They're weird though. Their new releases are reference but catalogue titles are garbage. I don't get that strategy.

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

I have said quite clearly I may and indeed hope I am wrong

Even if you are wrong it's not like this is some new practice to not take full advantage of a format in the later years. Could be purposely or some studios feel money is better spent focusing on new tech. Who really knows, but it has happened in the past.

I watched a 10 minute preview of The Martian on Verizon Fios, colors looked fine to me, the shots on Mars were especially vibrant. I didn't see this in the theaters so i don't have anything to compare it to like you.

saprano · 01-03-2016, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

Ok then, and I know trailers are not fully colour timed

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/156536

The 1080p stream color timing is similar to what i saw on Verizon Fios. It does look duller compared to the trailer.

Do you have more comparisons?

Penton-Man · 01-03-2016, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

I have said quite clearly I may and indeed hope I am wrong

I know what you said but mike, I just don’t like to see accusations thrown about without proof, first….and for that matter, valid and complete proof.

Plus, breaks my heart if you turn out to be right.

Opips3 · 01-03-2016, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I know what you said but mike, I just don’t like to see accusations thrown about without proof, first….and for that matter, valid and complete proof.

Plus, breaks my heart if you turn out to be right.

You want your heart out of body? Watch movie Indiana Jone and the temper of doom. Evil cults grab your heart is alive!! (Heartbeats) (heartbeat) ....

dvdmike · 01-03-2016, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by saprano

The 1080p stream color timing is similar to what i saw on Verizon Fios. It does look duller compared to the trailer.

Do you have more comparisons?

I can do a few more later on

ray0414 · 01-03-2016, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

Ok then, and I know trailers are not fully colour timed

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/156536

Mike, can you explain the sources of these, and what was the point of the experiment?

im a little lost. are you comparing trailers? and on what monitor?

dvdmike · 01-03-2016, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ray0414

Mike, can you explain the sources of these, and what was the point of the experiment?

im a little lost. are you comparing trailers? and on what monitor?

1080p streaming version

DCP trailer

They are direct grabs not photos.

I didn't think the Martian was quite that muted in colour in the cinema, and it looked more like the more colourful image

MisterXDTV · 01-03-2016, 08:35 PM

Trailers and final DCPs are usually very different, aren't they?

I remember a similar discussion about The Dark Knight Rises. The trailer color-grading was way "cooler" than the final DCP and Blu-ray...

dvdmike · 01-03-2016, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

Trailers and final DCPs are usually very different, aren't they?

I remember a similar discussion about The Dark Knight Rises. The trailer color-grading was way "cooler" than the final DCP and Blu-ray...

Indeed as I stated above, but the dark knight also had the IMAX preview that looked similar.
Then real test is how the HDR version looks compared to the others

MisterXDTV · 01-03-2016, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

Indeed as I stated above, but the dark knight also had the IMAX preview that looked similar.
Then real test is how the HDR version looks compared to the others

Well, HDR is supposed to be different because that's the point of it. The real comparison should be DCP vs Blu-ray as both don't use the HDR Master...

I don't want to think that Fox is trying to kill Blu-ray quality BEFORE the new format is actually on the market... It wouldn't make any sense...

Blu-Ray screens:

saprano · 01-04-2016, 03:04 AM

What do you think of those pics, mike? Do you get the same impression of muted colors?

dvdmike · 01-04-2016, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by saprano

What do you think of those pics, mike? Do you get the same impression of muted colors?

Will have a proper look when I can, I have only had one day off over Xmas and meant to look last night after work and was too tired.

MisterXDTV · 01-04-2016, 11:51 AM

Some more Blu-ray caps....

Geoff D · 01-04-2016, 09:47 PM

^ those caps, woah. The detail is stunning. Remind me again why we need 4K?

Pieter V · 01-04-2016, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

^ those caps, woah. The detail is stunning. Remind me again why we need 4K?

Bigger is better?

spectre08 · 01-04-2016, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

^ those caps, woah. The detail is stunning. Remind me again why we need 4K?

There's no substitution, for resolution

01-04-2016, 11:51 AM	#157
MisterXDTV Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2008	Some more Blu-ray caps.... Last edited by MisterXDTV; 01-04-2016 at 11:57 AM.

01-02-2016, 09:17 PM	#144
dvdmike Banned Member since:Jun 2010 Blu-ray collection:1069	Ok then, and I know trailers are not fully colour timed http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/156536

01-03-2016, 08:35 PM	#152
MisterXDTV Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2008	Trailers and final DCPs are usually very different, aren't they? I remember a similar discussion about The Dark Knight Rises. The trailer color-grading was way "cooler" than the final DCP and Blu-ray...

01-04-2016, 03:04 AM	#155
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	What do you think of those pics, mike? Do you get the same impression of muted colors?

01-04-2016, 09:47 PM	#158
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1352 Blu-ray collection:2529 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	^ those caps, woah. The detail is stunning. Remind me again why we need 4K?

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