Ghost in the Shell 4K UHD (2017)

[Strife88x]

I switched my pre-order from the 4K steelbook to the 4K standard release.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

http://www.theasc.com/ac_magazine/April2017/current.php

APRIL ’17 HIGHLIGHTS:
Ghost in the Shell
The Lost City of Z
The Promise
Practical Optics: Part II
ASC Awards Photo Spread


Site seems messed up then...

The May issue is now available....and it reveals no practical details about the rez of the final GITS master, other than they used 2K for dailies and all the DCPs were done in 2K. Still, I think it's safe to say it's a 2K master. The film was mostly shot in the Alexa 65's 5K 1.78 mode (framed up for 1.85), and not the 6.5K Open Gate capture.

They do mention that they specifically worked in the P3 colour space all the way through the chain, as most of the time the images as viewed on-set are piped out in Rec.709 (called "somewhat crude" by DP Jess Hall) with a basic correction LUT, which is then expanded upon in post. But here they designed the colour palette of the film to be read by the camera and to be presented as such, so on-set monitoring and the viewing of dailies were all done in proper P3 with "little or no colour correction required" during the DI grade itself.

So, even with the 2K master the Alexa 65's gorgeous imagery will still shine through on UHD and the colour should be eye-poppingly lush. We shall see....

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The May issue is now available....and it reveals no practical details about the rez of the final GITS master, other than they used 2K for dailies and all the DCPs were done in 2K. Still, I think it's safe to say it's a 2K master. The film was mostly shot in the Alexa 65's 5K 1.78 mode (framed up for 1.85), and not the 6.5K Open Gate capture.

They do mention that they specifically worked in the P3 colour space all the way through the chain, as most of the time the images as viewed on-set are piped out in Rec.709 (called "somewhat crude" by DP Jess Hall) with a basic correction LUT, which is then expanded upon in post. But here they designed the colour palette of the film to be read by the camera and to be presented as such, so on-set monitoring and the viewing of dailies were all done in proper P3 with "little or no colour correction required" during the DI grade itself.

So, even with the 2K master the Alexa 65's gorgeous imagery will still shine through on UHD and the colour should be eye-poppingly lush. We shall see....

Given the official "3K" stills (even those VFX-free) looked like upscaled 2K, a 2K master makes sense.

And they were still finishing VFX two weeks before release. Some of the extended clips right before release even had the Major all-black in some shots.



Doubt they'd put in or even have the time to render the movie in all the necessary 4K and 2K formats for theaters, let alone the master.

[BluRayHiDef]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

Given the official "3K" stills (even those VFX-free) looked like upscaled 2K, a 2K master makes sense.

And they were still finishing VFX two weeks before release. Some of the extended clips right before release even had the Major all-black in some shots.



Doubt they'd put in or even have the time to render the movie in all the necessary 4K and 2K formats for theaters, let alone the master.

Considering how much I like this film, I'm quite disappointed that it's not native 4K. What a shame.

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by BluRayHiDef

Considering how much I like this film, I'm quite disappointed that it's not native 4K. What a shame.

I believe the only proper 4K movie Paramount has is the upcoming Transformers movie. Everything else has been 2K AFAIK.

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

I believe the only proper 4K movie Paramount has is the upcoming Transformers movie. Everything else has been 2K AFAIK.

Paramount does seem to be mostly 2k. But they did release Allied and Silence, which were both 4k masters.

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Paramount does seem to be mostly 2k. But they did release Allied and Silence, which were both 4k masters.

I haven't seen either of them, are they very VFX heavy? I've noticed many VFX-"light" movies more often than not are done in 4K. The new Transformers and Star Wars being very notable exceptions, along with almost everything Sony.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

I haven't seen either of them, are they very VFX heavy? I've noticed many VFX-"light" movies more often than not are done in 4K. The new Transformers and Star Wars being very notable exceptions, along with almost everything Sony.

Which Star Wars?

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[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Which Star Wars?

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Force Awakens and Rogue One were both 4K I believe.

[Geoff D]

Force Awakens was scanned at 4K but finished at 2K according to most reports. Rogue One was 4K.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Force Awakens was scanned at 4K but finished at 2K according to most reports. Rogue One was 4K.

Rogue One looks really good in 1080 (2D). Never watched it in 3D or UHD

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Force Awakens was scanned at 4K but finished at 2K according to most reports. Rogue One was 4K.

Huh, could've sworn it screened in 4K at one of the first laser IMAX cinemas.



[EDIT] According to HighDefDigest, it was. http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...mc-prime/28452

[Geoff D]

IMAX Laser is a 4K projection by default, that's not to say that the source is always 4K. And HDD's info comes from where, exactly? Just because they say it's true doesn't make it so, this thread on film tech tells its own tale (scroll to about halfway down): http://www.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb...1;t=011934;p=1

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

IMAX Laser is a 4K projection by default, that's not to say that the source is always 4K. And HDD's info comes from where, exactly? Just because they say it's true doesn't make it so, this thread on film tech tells its own tale (scroll to about halfway down): http://www.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb...1;t=011934;p=1

I follow someone on Twitter who went to the premiere at the laser theater and they were touting it as a 4K master. But it is also a just 4K laser theater so there could be confusion. But they were a projectionist for some decades, so...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I figure with all the rumors of Disney collecting 4K remasters of the original trilogy, with Rogue One being 4K, and Disney re-rendering the animated Star Wars shows at 3K then upscaling to 4K, that Force Awakens is probably 4K too. 4K all the Star Wars things!

[Geoff D]

They did WHAT to the animated shows? Do tell.

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

They did WHAT to the animated shows? Do tell.

It awesome Japan animated movie looks more adult mature.
I think remake movie Ghost in the Shell is a real life than art animated.

I would like to see "D" vampire hunter real life movie.

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

They did WHAT to the animated shows? Do tell.

Oh, I'm pretty sure I watched an interview on this VERY recently but I can't find it and the only thing I can find is the "rumor" of them doing it in 2014. I don't have Netflix 4K so I can't verify, and search results are plagued with rumors about restorations of the original trilogy in 4K.

http://makingstarwars.net/2014/06/lu...wars-episodes/

[Geoff D]

I found that same thing too. Not to be da party pooper, but I take a lot of what I hear on makingstarwars with a rather large chunk of salt.

[puddy77]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

Oh, I'm pretty sure I watched an interview on this VERY recently but I can't find it and the only thing I can find is the "rumor" of them doing it in 2014. I don't have Netflix 4K so I can't verify, and search results are plagued with rumors about restorations of the original trilogy in 4K.

http://makingstarwars.net/2014/06/lu...wars-episodes/

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I found that same thing too. Not to be da party pooper, but I take a lot of what I hear on makingstarwars with a rather large chunk of salt.

Yeah, that article is 3 years old. And I just checked, Clone Wars are only HD on Netflix.

[Vangeli]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Yeah, that article is 3 years old. And I just checked, Clone Wars are only HD on Netflix.

Oh, bummer.

Well I rarely go on Facebook anyway, it was probably a fake video tbh.