Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings 3D Blu-ray (2021) [Region Free]

[thestrangestick]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

oh thanks for the clarification and reply.

I just think it's nice that for once an IMAX 'experience' is not reliant on constant AR shift/changing, to be a consistent full screen presentation was perfect.

even though I'm in AMC A-list member, my favourite theatre is doing free movies all day today, including this in 3D on one it's four prime ICON-X screens, hey ~ I'm there...

I think their point is that when the whole movie is in IMAX format, IMAX retains exclusive rights to that format for home media and then we get a subpar cropped image on 3D Blu-ray (like with Infinity War and Endgame). Assuming this movie is proper IMAX format and not just 16x9. I agree that I’d rather have a movie with 50-70% IMAX scenes that is intact on home media than 100% scenes that gets cropped completely for home release.

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by thestrangestick

I think their point is that when the whole movie is in IMAX format, IMAX retains exclusive rights to that format for home media and then we get a subpar cropped image on 3D Blu-ray (like with Infinity War and Endgame). Assuming this movie is proper IMAX format and not just 16x9. I agree that I’d rather have a movie with 50-70% IMAX scenes that is intact on home media than 100% scenes that gets cropped completely for home release.

Then how the hell did we get avengers and ant-man? those were full imax if i'm not mistaken.
I believe that Disney is holding those versions so that they can milk that cow in the future. The movie made money that Disney never thought they could and possibly they also wanted to spend less in royalties to Imax.

[vila2k]

Originally Posted by Jlardonio

Then how the hell did we get avengers and ant-man? those were full imax if i'm not mistaken.
I believe that Disney is holding those versions so that they can milk that cow in the future. The movie made money that Disney never thought they could and possibly they also wanted to spend less in royalties to Imax.

No they were just shot in a 1.85:1 aspect ratio.

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by vila2k

No they were just shot in a 1.85:1 aspect ratio.

They're very similar, my bad.
But i still believe that Disney and Imax will milk that cow in a few years, probably like in every 10 years of celebrations. But to it come in 3D, i don't think that it will come soon.

[Jlardonio]

https://neiloseman.com/aspect-ratio-...atic-universe/
Here Whedon says: “I wanted to feel the space around us, and use wider lenses,” said Whedon. “That’s why I went 1.85 instead of wider. In IMAX, I wanted it to fill your eyeball completely.”

[Freakyguy666]

Originally Posted by thestrangestick

I think their point is that when the whole movie is in IMAX format, IMAX retains exclusive rights to that format for home media and then we get a subpar cropped image on 3D Blu-ray (like with Infinity War and Endgame). Assuming this movie is proper IMAX format and not just 16x9. I agree that I’d rather have a movie with 50-70% IMAX scenes that is intact on home media than 100% scenes that gets cropped completely for home release.

How do you explain the lack of Imax scenes in the last Spiderman Bluray?

[Zivouhr]

2022 filming is supposed to start for the new Blade from Marvel. It'll be interesting to see if it's rated R like the first Blade, or PG-13 and 3D. If it's R, the chances of being 3D seem less likely.

On Topic, the Shang Chi 3D Ticket price was much higher than what I normally would pay for a 3D film at Cinemark, no doubt because of Disney's special premium they demand from theaters. In this case though, I didn't mind to support the theater in a small way.

[Show spoiler]Because I don't buy their rip off priced snacks most times. Popcorn is one of the cheapest snacks to make yet they charge the most money.

The bus fight scene, I don't think anything after that matched it. Good fights, but that was really cool. Some of the weapons like the blades, would pierce out of the screen. 3D Projectiles made me jump back a couple times in this film.

Overall 8/10 for the mostly medium layers of 3D. Effective and good 3D dimensions going on.

Originally Posted by Just_Discovered_3D

Michelle Yeoh...how was her enunciation and performance in this? I had difficulties understanding her in STD, and her performance in that was pretty wooden.

She was believable here IMO for her speaking and fighting. I thought she did well. My favorite film of hers was Supercop, with Jackie Chan. She was great in that.

[RitwikKN2002]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

2022 filming is supposed to start for the new Blade from Marvel. It'll be interesting to see if it's rated R like the first Blade, or PG-13 and 3D. If it's R, the chances of being 3D seem less likely.

The new 'Blade' will be PG-13. Kevin Feige said there are no plans to make R-rated MCU films other than 'Deadpool 3' for now.

As for R-rated 3D films, The King's Man is getting a RealD 3D release at the end of the year. So if it successfully releases in 3D, there's a possibility of getting more R-rated 3D films from Disney, including 'Deadpool 3'.

[thestrangestick]

Originally Posted by Freakyguy666

How do you explain the lack of Imax scenes in the last Spiderman Bluray?

Because it’s Sony home video and they don’t release the IMAX scenes AFAIK. Homecoming didn’t have the IMAX scenes on disc from memory? Or maybe the first one did, but they just didn’t bother with the second one. (EDIT: I just checked and I’m not even sure it had IMAX scenes to begin with). Either way, the way they handle home releases is different from Disney. Disney has made a habit of releasing the expanded IMAX scenes only on 3D Blu-ray, but with IW/Endgame those were IMAX exclusives because the whole thing was filmed in IMAX ratio so they would have to pay extra to license that version for home release. Ant Man 2 came out after that and had the expanded scenes, so here’s hoping Black Widow will too.

The whole certified IMAX thing seems like a weird marketing scam, because these days they rarely even use IMAX cameras and the difference between that and 16:9 is minimal. ‘IMAX enhanced’ 4K home release were being promoted years ago but from what I can tell that never actually ended up happening. They released a handful then it kind of died. I wonder what the point of allowing IMAX to hold an aspect ratio that isn’t that unique hostage is if it means these studios won’t put out the full experience on home media. It’s weird.

[thestrangestick]

Anyway, as far as the movie itself, just got back from a 4DX viewing. This time a hungry hungry person behind me was snacking almost the entire movie and loudly rustling packets of food during all the quiet emotional scenes. It was almost comical. Going to the cinema is a crapshoot and the theatre industry deserves to die if they are incapable of making such an expensive experience at least as enjoyable as in the home.

The 3D was really good. I don’t know if it was much better than Black Widow overall, but it did have more pop out moments, including one that made me flinch. I think it’s a typical solid Marvel conversion with slightly more going on in front of the screen versus Black Widow.

The movie was excellent too. I admire Marvel for making a series where most of the movies feel very unique in tone. Shang-Chi is a pretty unabashed martial arts movie with barely any hints of ‘super’ stuff until the very end. It’s got a very unique vibe in the Marvel universe, but then again a lot of the movies do. I like a lot of the DCEU films but a lot of them have the same kind of vibe. You can forget you’re watching a ‘superhero’ movie during parts of this one.

I’m quietly confident this will get a 3D Blu-ray in at least Japan, coming so hot on the heels of Black Widow. I’m perhaps even slightly hopeful (or mildly delusional) that this movie, as the first Marvel movie post-covid to come out in cinemas first, could even bring a return to 3D Blu-ray in the U.K. and Germany. That’s more of a pipe dream, but a Japan release will do, and I think the chances are decent. This movie deserves to be seen in 3D, I think a lot of it was shot with 3D in mind and there are some solid pop outs and immaculate scenes of depth.

[Freakyguy666]

Originally Posted by thestrangestick

Because it’s Sony home video and they don’t release the IMAX scenes AFAIK. Homecoming didn’t have the IMAX scenes on disc from memory? Or maybe the first one did, but they just didn’t bother with the second one. (EDIT: I just checked and I’m not even sure it had IMAX scenes to begin with). Either way, the way they handle home releases is different from Disney. Disney has made a habit of releasing the expanded IMAX scenes only on 3D Blu-ray, but with IW/Endgame those were IMAX exclusives because the whole thing was filmed in IMAX ratio so they would have to pay extra to license that version for home release. Ant Man 2 came out after that and had the expanded scenes, so here’s hoping Black Widow will too.

The whole certified IMAX thing seems like a weird marketing scam, because these days they rarely even use IMAX cameras and the difference between that and 16:9 is minimal. ‘IMAX enhanced’ 4K home release were being promoted years ago but from what I can tell that never actually ended up happening. They released a handful then it kind of died. I wonder what the point of allowing IMAX to hold an aspect ratio that isn’t that unique hostage is if it means these studios won’t put out the full experience on home media. It’s weird.

Sony did include the Expanded Aspect Ratio scenes in Ghostbusters 2016 though so there is precedent…

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by Freakyguy666

How do you explain the lack of Imax scenes in the last Spiderman Bluray?

As any sony movie those were cropped, except for FandangoNOW, there far from home has imax footage and it's in 4K if i'm not mistaken.

[spider-neil]

Hope this gets a 3D release. I've seen the movie now and I thought the action (in act 1 and act 2) was spectacular. Some of the best action (if not 'the' best) in the entire MCU.
I thought act 3 just becomes a CGI mess but that is par the course for superhero movies.
Ironically, I think the 3rd act will look the best in 3D (I saw the 2D) because it's nearly entirely CG which lends itself to strong 3D.

A definite recommendation for the movie. The 3rd act just didn't work for me but act 1 and act 2 alone are worth the price of admission.

[mpls1981]

Originally Posted by Freakyguy666

How do you explain the lack of Imax scenes in the last Spiderman Bluray?

Spider-man is Sony so it doesn't follow the standard MCU release "rules". However, they IMAX scenes were released as part of the 4K digital version with FandangoNOW. There's a small list of available devices that will play it properly, but you can enjoy it - just not with Atmos.

[mpls1981]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

Hope this gets a 3D release. I've seen the movie now and I thought the action (in act 1 and act 2) was spectacular. Some of the best action (if not 'the' best) in the entire MCU.
I thought act 3 just becomes a CGI mess but that is par the course for superhero movies.
Ironically, I think the 3rd act will look the best in 3D (I saw the 2D) because it's nearly entirely CG which lends itself to strong 3D.

A definite recommendation for the movie. The 3rd act just didn't work for me but act 1 and act 2 alone are worth the price of admission.

I really wish they had kept with the great action from the first two acts for the climax. The CGI battle was unnecessary for Shang-Chi given how great

[Show spoiler]a battle between father and son with the rings alone could have been. Two giant dragons battling took away from the core of the movie and just felt like some required MCU addition.

[thestrangestick]

Originally Posted by Freakyguy666

Sony did include the Expanded Aspect Ratio scenes in Ghostbusters 2016 though so there is precedent…

But were those IMAX ratio scenes or just standard 16:9? From a quick Google, either Ghostbusters 2016 never had IMAX exclusive scenes, or they made the expanded scenes in both IMAX format and regular widescreen format and then the regular widescreen format is what they released on disc for 3D. I don’t think there’s any precedent of Sony releasing IMAX exclusive footage on disc.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by mpls1981

I really wish they had kept with the great action from the first two acts for the climax. The CGI battle was unnecessary for Shang-Chi given how great

[Show spoiler]a battle between father and son with the rings alone could have been. Two giant dragons battling took away from the core of the movie and just felt like some required MCU addition.

This is what I thought the climax was going to be

[Show spoiler]I thought Shang-Chi's dad was going to take on the entire army himself as they attempt to stop him from reaching the giant door. Shang-Chi was going to converse with the dragon and the dragon would show him the true power of the rings. The wall would never be breached so Shang-Chi would never know if his mother is dead or not.

Sure there would be CG, would it be 'relatively grounded with Shang-Chi's dad vs everyone else. What we got was a mess (for me). It was the same with Wonder Woman and to a lesser extent, Black Panther (two movies I absolutely love). I have no idea why the third act of superhero movies has to descend into a CGI fest. Is it in the contract or something?

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by mpls1981

I really wish they had kept with the great action from the first two acts for the climax. The CGI battle was unnecessary for Shang-Chi given how great

[Show spoiler]a battle between father and son with the rings alone could have been. Two giant dragons battling took away from the core of the movie and just felt like some required MCU addition.

But it's the

[Show spoiler]dragon battle at the end that really gives the movie its epic feel... It's totally awesome that we get both an intense battle between WenWu and son, but also the ultimate battle between good and evil with some of the largest creatures in the entire MCU universe

...

[levcore]

People always seem to complain about these CG heavy finales for comic book movies. I don't get it, I want a big bombastic finish to a superhero movie with loads of spectacle etc.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by levcore

People always seem to complain about these CG heavy finales for comic book movies. I don't get it, I want a big bombastic finish to a superhero movie with loads of spectacle etc.

Exactly. People keep coming back for more, so a majority of audiences obviously likes them.