Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Apparently, of the 8 million average Netflix audience (per episode) for Stranger Things, 1.3 million of those skipped the 7th episode completely!

So much for Vilya’s theory about these oh so patient millennials. Fully backs my argument and blows his theory sky high.

This will only become far more widespread when Object Based content delivery allows audiences to skip or decrease a shows length while still keeping the baseline story.

Attention spans are going bye bye Vilya.

You had to drag me into your unmitigated stupidity, didn't you? I was having such a quiet day, too.

If that many people, in fact, skipped episode 7, then that only suggests that those that did did not like that particular episode. Obviously, genius, they had the attention span to watch all of the other episodes. There are 8 episodes in season 3.

The science has already proven that attention spans are just fine and in some cases improvements have been noted in the generation that you love to hate. I will take hard science over your hard cracked head every single time. It was never my "theory", I quoted the facts and I provided you the links to the articles that provided them on several occasions. If you really think that you have unproven the combined works of scientists worldwide who have studied human attention spans for decades with an undocumented statistic about Netflix viewership of Stranger Things, then you are the the dumbest and most delusional human being with enough of a functioning brain stem to yet retain bladder control.

You are every bit as willfully ignorant as someone else we both know and posting those articles again would just be a complete waste of time. People like you, and him, will believe only what they choose, science and facts be damned.

The only thing going "bye bye" are the few remaining shreds of your sanity.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

You had to drag me into your unmitigated stupidity, didn't you? I was having such a quiet day, too.

If people, in fact, skipped episode 7, then that only suggests that those that did did not like that particular episode. Obviously, genius, they had the attention span to watch all of the other episodes. There are 8 episodes in season 3.

The science has already proven that attention spans are just fine and in some cases improvements have been noted in the generation that you love to hate. I will take hard science over your hard cracked head every single time. It was never my "theory", I quoted the facts and I provided you the links to the articles that provided them on several occasions.

You are every bit as willfully ignorant as someone else we both know and posting those articles again would just be a complete waste of time. People like you, and him, will believe only what you choose, science and facts be damned.

The only thing going "bye bye" are the few remaining shreds of your sanity.

Or they just wanted to get to the end of it to dash onto social media and talk about it. How can they dislike a episode they haven’t seen?

The science hasn’t proven any such thing. You have just grabbed one article that backs your theory.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Or they just wanted to get to the end of it to dash onto social media and talk about it. How can they dislike a episode they haven’t seen?

The science hasn’t proven any such thing. You have just grabbed one article that backs your theory.

Whatever their reasons for skipping episode 7, if they even did, they still had the attention span necessary to watch all of the other episodes.

I quoted several, and I could quote more, but arguing with a fool only makes another fool. And you have the job down so well, too.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I quoted several, and I could quote more, but arguing with a fool only makes another fool. And you have the job down so well, too.

Getting back to my first point. How can people dislike a episode when they haven’t watched it? I’m listening.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Getting back to my first point. How can people dislike a episode when they haven’t watched it? I’m listening.

The only point you have is upon your head.

We don't even know that anyone skipped any episode, in whole or in part; we just have your "word" for it and, frankly, that's worth pretty much nothing when it comes to facts.

Getting back to my point, how do you explain their ability to watch all of the seven remaining episodes, assuming your "stat" has any basis in fact?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

The only point you have is upon your head.

We don't even know that anyone skipped any episode, in whole or in part; we just have your "word" for it and, frankly, that's worth pretty much nothing when it comes to facts.

You would make a good politician. Never mind. Don’t answer. You and others just resort to personal insults and I’m better than that.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You would make a good politician. Never mind. Don’t answer.

You would do pretty well as soylent green and that's my being charitable.

You are not better than anyone here. You have leveled insults on a regular basis the same as almost everyone else. I can readily quote from a long list of examples. You ALWAYS become a poor little wee victim , just like someone else here does, when you can not defend the stupid crap that you post.

So, where's your answer Sherlock? How is it that they watched all seven of the remaining episodes, but magically somehow lacked the attention span to watch just one of them?

Politicians often dodge questions; you outright run from them.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

You would do pretty well as soylent green and that's my being charitable.

You are not better than anyone here. You have leveled insults on a regular basis the same as almost everyone else. I can readily quote from a long list of examples. You ALWAYS become a poor little wee victim , just like someone else here does, when you can not defend the stupid crap you post.

So, where's your answer Sherlock? How is it that they watched all seven of the remaining episodes, but magically somehow lacked the attention span to watch just one of them?

Politicians often dodge questions; you outright run from them.

Nielson, The Verge, Netflix. All the clues I’m going to give you. Get back to me when you can stop with the insults.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Nielson, The Verge, Netflix. All the clues I’m going to give you. Get back to me when you can stop with the insults.

Name dropping does not equate to giving a citation nor does it answer the question that you keep avoiding: how is it that they somehow had the attention span necessary to watch all of the other remaining episodes? Where's your answer?

You're the one that named me directly when you stated an undocumented viewing statistic and then you are the one who then drew the utterly idiotic conclusion that the reason for their skipping one single episode out of 8 was due to their lack of an attention span.

You cite no evidence to support the stat because it either is not true, or you are just too lazy to do so. You most certainly have no evidence to support your conclusion. It is the conclusions that you make that cause you to lose all credibility and to also get labelled as being full tilt-a-whirl .

You earn the ridicule you that receive because you relentlessly post nonsense. The former will abate when the latter does.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Name dropping does not equate to giving a citation nor does it answer the question that you keep avoiding: how is it that they somehow had the attention span necessary to watch all of the other remaining episodes? Where's your answer?

You're the one that named me directly when you stated an undocumented viewing statistic and then you are the one who then drew the utterly idiotic conclusion that the reason for their skipping one single episode out of 8 was due to their lack of an attention span.

You cite no evidence to support the stat because it either is not true, or you are just too lazy to do so. You most certainly have no evidence to support your conclusion. It is the conclusions that you make that all but prove that you are .

You earn the ridicule you that receive because you relentlessly post nonsense. The former will abate when the latter does.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/12/2...a-research-hit

[The_Donster]

See, this is we can’t have nice things

[Steedeel]

It’s right there in those stats. On demand and mobile viewing is creating a future gen of twitchy, Attention challenged folk who can’t even watch an entire series to get to the end of a show. That’s not a drop in the ocean. 1.35 million people.

One day you and Vilya will realise I have been right all along. Shows will get way shorter the more content is skipped. Studios won’t eant to spend fortunes on content that is being skipped. Make it shorter to fit with their attention spans, bless them.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/12/2...a-research-hit

Well, that's half the battle. A link! Now where's the answer to that question? Of those that skipped just one episode, how is it that they watched all of the other seven episodes if they are as challenged as you alone claim?

The article gives no explanation as to why episode 7 was skipped by some people. It only offers a guess as to why some people skipped that episode. Further, Netflix does not accept the ratings provided by Nielsen as even being accurate because they only account for viewers who watched with a traditional TV.

Regardless of why episode seven was skipped by some viewers, they clearly had the mental wherewithal to watch seven out of the eight episodes. There is absolutely nothing in the article that you provided to suggest that attention spans had anything to do with it. That bull puckey is all yours, as usual.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Well, that's half the battle. A link! Now where's the answer to that question? Of those that skipped just one episode, how is it that they watched all of the other seven episodes if they are as challenged as you alone claim?

The article gives no explanation as to why episode 7 was skipped by some people. It only offers a guess as to why some people skipped that episode. Further, Netflix does not accept the ratings provided by Nielsen as even being accurate because they only account for viewers who watched with a traditional TV.

Regardless of why episode seven was skipped by some viewers, they clearly had the mental wherewithal to watch seven out of the eight episodes. There is absolutely nothing in the article that you provided to suggest that attention spans had anything to do with it. That bull puckey is all yours, as usual.

Yes, because patient people skip an entire episode to reach the finale don’t they?

It’s episide 7, the penultimate episode. It doesn’t take a genius to work out what is going on here.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It’s right there in those stats. On demand and mobile viewing is creating a future gen of twitchy, Attention challenged folk who can’t even watch an entire series to get to the end of a show. That’s not a drop in the ocean. 1.35 million people.

No, it is not. The science has proven you wrong and no matter how many times you repeat this obstinate ignorance you will remain wrong.

Watching content on mobile devices does not make someone any of the derogatory things that you claim. When I'm not home, I use mobile devices. Wherever I happen to be, I use the best device available to me.

You still refuse to explain how it is that those same 1.35 million people watched the other seven episodes. People sometimes skip an episode; it is their choice, not an affliction.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yes, because patient people skip an entire episode to reach the finale don’t they?

It’s episide 7, the penultimate episode. It doesn’t take a genius to work out what is going on here.

It takes a lunatic to draw the conclusion that you did, so you're half right anyways.

It was never proven that they skipped the episode, either. Nielsen only tracks TV viewings; they may have watched that particular episode with any number of other devices.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

No, it is not. The science has proven you wrong and no matter how many times you repeat this obstinate ignorance you will remain wrong.

Watching content on mobile devices does not make someone any of the derogatory things that you claim. When I'm not home, I use mobile devices. Wherever I happen to be, I use the best device available to me.

You still refuse to explain how it is that those same 1.35 million people watched the other seven episodes. People sometimes skip an episode; it is their choice, not an affliction.

It’s patterns that are slowly emerging and patterns that you will need to acknowledge eventually. As time goes by, studios will see that all the skipped content is a waste of money. Much shorter, more frantic storytelling will be the order of the day. On mobile or otherwise.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

It takes a lunatic to draw the conclusion that you did, so you're half right anyways.

It was never proven that they skipped the episode, either. Nielsen only tracks TV viewings; they may have watched that particular episode with any number of other devices.

What? Just that episode?

You are hilarious.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It’s patterns that are slowly emerging and patterns that you will need to acknowledge eventually. As time goes by, studios will see that all the skipped content is a waste of money. Much shorter, more frantic storytelling will be the order of the day. On mobile or otherwise.

Only according to you. And your reputation precedes you.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

What? Just that episode?

You are hilarious.

I do my best.

Nielsen only tracks TV viewings and it is also a fact that people use devices other than a TV to watch content. Without knowing the full viewership statistics across all devices, we can not really know how many viewers watched any given episode. Only Netflix has that data and they are not sharing it.

No matter how many people chose to skip episode 7, we have no way of knowing why they did so. They still watched 7/8 of the entire series. Your conclusion as to why remains as farcical as ever. I believe scientists on subjects of science, not forum fear mongering fanatics such as yourself.