The Official Energy Speakers Thread

[supermoore1025]

I was wondering how big is the jump from Energy RC-10 to the RC-30, I already have a pair of RC-10 but I plan on finishing out my 5.1 system , so I plan on picking up a RC mini center and RC-30.
Would the RC-30 have more clarity or the Rc-30 just a bigger version of the RC-10 with more bass?

[MaCruz]

Originally Posted by callas01

The C-300s would give you a little better bass... don't know how much you would hear it tho... maybe a little, if I were you I would stay with what i have, unless a great deal on any of the towers comes up... then it may be worth it. esp, if they are the C-500s

So bascially the C-200 I have is everything that the C-300 has except for the tower part right? I mean the C-300 looks exactly like the C-200 except the 300 has a tower.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by Rebel6666

Thanks for the in fo my friend but IMO there must be more of a difference than just the bass, if you take and compare the C-C-50 to the C-100 the difference is remarquable between the two of them, when I bought my set the salemans made me hear both and the difference is more than I thought taht is why I bought the C-C-100. Now I could not comapre with the C-300 as they didn't had tem on the floor for try-out but the salesman told me that I was better off with the C-500 for yes bass but also the sound in general. This also goes with my C-100 bookshelf speakers, compared the them with the C-50's and the difference is quite remarqualble.

IMO I think it's a matter of opinion but If i could have tryed both of those like I did with the centers then I could debate more of it.

There may be a small increase in mid-range detail, but likely not much, if at all. There is probably a greater overall presence of sound to the sound stage because of the additional driver and 2-channel may have more umph, But probably not much more, although as I have not heard the C-500s, but I can say that having heard many speakers in similar designs, that 2-way speaker typically stand up for themselves in mid-range detail and depth equal to 2.5 and 3 way speakers.

Energy doesn't completely redesign all speakers as some very high-end manufactures do. They essentially are just adding a woofer and introducing another crossover slope.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by supermoore1025

I was wondering how big is the jump from Energy RC-10 to the RC-30, I already have a pair of RC-10 but I plan on finishing out my 5.1 system , so I plan on picking up a RC mini center and RC-30.
Would the RC-30 have more clarity or the Rc-30 just a bigger version of the RC-10 with more bass?

the RC-30s will offer you better bass and a larger sound as it push more air through your room and will envelop you more in the movies and music you're listening to, I think that would be a good upgrade to make, imo, However like MaCruz, I don't think the C-200s to C-300s adds much if anything, so I personally wouldn't do that one.

Hope that helps.

Also, if budget allows, get the RC-LCR, you'll be happier long term.

[arrt vandelay]

there's life again in the energy speaker thread?!?

i have some energy-related news...i had to sacrifice my beloved rc-10s to fund an amp that i got bid happy over on ebay(rotel rb-976). i was quite sad when packing them up yesterday to ship. my old adcom amp also will be leaving me as well this weekend. changes, changes...

i've thought about speaker shopping recently, but have come to the conclusion that there's not really anything out there that currently would compel me to swap out my current energy set-up. the only thing i've considered is a move to are some def-techs, but if i were to do that now, i'd have to buy new livingroom furniture too to accomdate the def-tech center that would go w/ the towers i've been eyeing. also thought about swapping out the yammy 765, but figured what was the point. i know it inside and out now, and it does everything i need it to.

i am thinking of a sub re-do. a quick glance at the eD threads here at at other forums has me concerned about how long my a2-300 will last. also, i could probably get almost what i paid for it due to the demand and eD's higher prices. also, not helping is that my brother-in-law bought a hsu vft3mk3 that i help him set up...drool...the a3s-250 is a keeper, just debating on putting the a2-300 on the block as well...

[Rebel6666]

Originally Posted by arrt vandelay

there's life again in the energy speaker thread?!?

i have some energy-related news...i had to sacrifice my beloved rc-10s to fund an amp that i got bid happy over on ebay(rotel rb-976). i was quite sad when packing them up yesterday to ship. my old adcom amp also will be leaving me as well this weekend. changes, changes...

i've thought about speaker shopping recently, but have come to the conclusion that there's not really anything out there that currently would compel me to swap out my current energy set-up. the only thing i've considered is a move to are some def-techs, but if i were to do that now, i'd have to buy new livingroom furniture too to accomdate the def-tech center that would go w/ the towers i've been eyeing. also thought about swapping out the yammy 765, but figured what was the point. i know it inside and out now, and it does everything i need it to.

i am thinking of a sub re-do. a quick glance at the eD threads here at at other forums has me concerned about how long my a2-300 will last. also, i could probably get almost what i paid for it due to the demand and eD's higher prices. also, not helping is that my brother-in-law bought a hsu vft3mk3 that i help him set up...drool...the a3s-250 is a keeper, just debating on putting the a2-300 on the block as well...

Glad you like you set mate. I freind of mine had Paradims speakers 7.1 set-up they weree working fine but he wanted more so he bought the highest end they had but IMO I don't see mucj differences from is older set. I think that maybe there is but paying 3 000$ more for a minimum difference well that is not for me. I upgarded cause I had the in the Box 5.1 take 1 to the 7.1 C-series which for me that was worth it. I will still keep my 5.1 for the family room thought but I liked the sound of the C-Series of energy.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by arrt vandelay

there's life again in the energy speaker thread?!?

i have some energy-related news...i had to sacrifice my beloved rc-10s to fund an amp that i got bid happy over on ebay(rotel rb-976). i was quite sad when packing them up yesterday to ship. my old adcom amp also will be leaving me as well this weekend. changes, changes...

i've thought about speaker shopping recently, but have come to the conclusion that there's not really anything out there that currently would compel me to swap out my current energy set-up. the only thing i've considered is a move to are some def-techs, but if i were to do that now, i'd have to buy new livingroom furniture too to accomdate the def-tech center that would go w/ the towers i've been eyeing. also thought about swapping out the yammy 765, but figured what was the point. i know it inside and out now, and it does everything i need it to.

i am thinking of a sub re-do. a quick glance at the eD threads here at at other forums has me concerned about how long my a2-300 will last. also, i could probably get almost what i paid for it due to the demand and eD's higher prices. also, not helping is that my brother-in-law bought a hsu vft3mk3 that i help him set up...drool...the a3s-250 is a keeper, just debating on putting the a2-300 on the block as well...

Awesome Arrt.

I have had no issues with my eD, and it appears many of the issue they believe it to be are worked out. On the other hand, I must say that the VTF-2.3 was on my radar, as you know prior to getting the eD, and I still recommend if you have the $ to swing it, its a very very nice performer.

I actually have Rded, Rhett, looking at the ULS-15 to add to his Dynaudios.... he loves the compact sub with high output.

[arrt vandelay]

Originally Posted by callas01

Awesome Arrt.

I have had no issues with my eD, and it appears many of the issue they believe it to be are worked out. On the other hand, I must say that the VTF-2.3 was on my radar, as you know prior to getting the eD, and I still recommend if you have the $ to swing it, its a very very nice performer.

I actually have Rded, Rhett, looking at the ULS-15 to add to his Dynaudios.... he loves the compact sub with high output.

yep, i think i'd have to go for the vtf3mk3 though if i went that route...leave no doubts about the boom...may end up w/ an svs pb-12nsd as well...or could just keep the a2-300 and buy some other toy(motorola droid has my eye or the htc incredible)...

i really will miss the rc10s though. when i did have them hooked up, you really could tell they were of higher quality than the c-series, but the prices to fully upgrade to the rc series is pretty hefty. and the rosenut finish is impossible to find anywhere. i'll just have to grin and bear it w/ my current speakers for a while though...

[callas01]

Originally Posted by arrt vandelay

yep, i think i'd have to go for the vtf3mk3 though if i went that route...leave no doubts about the boom...may end up w/ an svs pb-12nsd as well...or could just keep the a2-300 and buy some other toy(motorola droid has my eye or the htc incredible)...

i really will miss the rc10s though. when i did have them hooked up, you really could tell they were of higher quality than the c-series, but the prices to fully upgrade to the rc series is pretty hefty. and the rosenut finish is impossible to find anywhere. i'll just have to grin and bear it w/ my current speakers for a while though...

I hear you....

I am looking to upgrade maybe next year or the year after* to some Dynaudio Focus 140s, or Excite X16s or the Dali Lektor 8s.

however there is a heafty price tag on all of those too. But they are the only things I see enough gain in detail, cohesion, power, etc., to make me want to upgrade too.

Plus I need a new Receiver and an amp... if i go with the 140s, the other 2 i could get away with an NAD 747, but that is still a $1200 receiver....

[MaCruz]

I went ahead with bought another pair of C-100 from the trading forum.

Now I'm going to go 7.1, will the C-C50 be no use for me anymore? I kind of like it in the middle but I should stick with the same model for for the rears?

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by MaCruz

I went ahead with bought another pair of C-100 from the trading forum.

Now I'm going to go 7.1, will the C-C50 be no use for me anymore? I kind of like it in the middle but I should stick with the same model for for the rears?

That's great Macruz I hope you will enjoy as much as I do.


Another C-C50 would have been fine to work in pair with the one you have but buying a single C-100 to match it to it was not going to be to great. You want to at least have matching pairs and ultimately matching all driver size in HT setup. The best Example is your fronts you want to have the same left and right speaker.

Same idea with surrounds 4 of the same is the ultimate setup but running in pairs is fine so Callas could add another C-50 as right Back surround speaker even if his surrounds are C-100.


Yeah you could put the C-C50 for sale I don't think you will find a use now for it.

I believe now you are going to be in heaven with your setup

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

I hear you....

I am looking to upgrade maybe next year or the year after* to some Dynaudio Focus 140s, or Excite X16s or the Dali Lektor 8s.

however there is a heafty price tag on all of those too. But they are the only things I see enough gain in detail, cohesion, power, etc., to make me want to upgrade too.

Plus I need a new Receiver and an amp... if i go with the 140s, the other 2 i could get away with an NAD 747, but that is still a $1200 receiver....

What About Totem Sttaf and Rainmakers lol

[MaCruz]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

That's great Macruz I hope you will enjoy as much as I do.


Another C-C50 would have been fine to work in pair with the one you have but buying a single C-100 to match it to it was not going to be to great. You want to at least have matching pairs and ultimately matching all driver size in HT setup. The best Example is your fronts you want to have the same left and right speaker.

Same idea with surrounds 4 of the same is the ultimate setup but running in pairs is fine so Callas could add another C-50 as right Back surround speaker even if his surrounds are C-100.


Yeah you could put the C-C50 for sale I don't think you will find a use now for it.

I believe now you are going to be in heaven with your setup

Thanks BigAl!! Always appreciate the help and advice just like others. I should of bought the best available C Series speakers to begin with, and I wouldn't be in this situation. Oh well... lesson learned.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by MaCruz

Thanks BigAl!! Always appreciate the help and advice just like others. I should of bought the best available C Series speakers to begin with, and I wouldn't be in this situation. Oh well... lesson learned.

lol what you had before was not bad at all even with the C-100 as fronts with the C-C50 as center I think alot of people don't even go that far in the audio department. I think you got the upgraditis syndrome.

As you upgrade you feel the improvement.

I myself went trough exactly what you are going troungh now.

I started with Bose v-201 as surrounds C-C100 center and C-100 mains.

Steped up the Fronts to C-200, move the C-100 to surrounds and sold the Bose.

Then baught the C-R100 to complete 7.1.

Then Baught the C-500 and sold the C-200.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

What About Totem Sttaf and Rainmakers lol

Ill hear them when I get to the place that has Dyns, they also have Totems too.... But I don't know... I like the looks of the Dyns A LOT..... And then I have to match it all up to the Dalis.... and see what I like best.

I also want to hear the Focals and Revels. BTW.

[DrasticPlastic]

Originally Posted by MaCruz

Thanks BigAl!! Always appreciate the help and advice just like others. I should of bought the best available C Series speakers to begin with, and I wouldn't be in this situation. Oh well... lesson learned.

You made the right decision, you will enjoy the C-100.

[MaCruz]

Originally Posted by DrasticPlastic

You made the right decision, you will enjoy the C-100.

I will x2 since they will be all surrounds

[Rebel6666]

Originally Posted by MaCruz

I will x2 since they will be all surrounds

Yes you will I have them as my back and surrounds

[hiphophead85]

im looking to add two rear speakers to my setup in my bedroom. any recommendations that would work with the C-50 and C-C50?

[Yeha-Noha]

Originally Posted by MaCruz

So bascially the C-200 I have is everything that the C-300 has except for the tower part right? I mean the C-300 looks exactly like the C-200 except the 300 has a tower.

Calling the C-300 just a C-200 in a larger box is totally inaccurate and untrue. They do have the same drivers (6.5 in woofer, and 1 in chambered Al dome tweeter). That's were the similarity ends. The woofer which acts as a midrange driver too, will have less cone excursion at the same power output with far less distortion. The C-300s will have a cleaner sound. There is less doppler distortion too at the upper critical midrange frequencies.

Before I got my C-300s, I had a pair of C-200s. I couldn't believe the difference the tower design made after I bought the C-300s. The C-200s sounded rather boxy to me and couldn't keep up as well with the C-C100. OTOH, my C-300s sound more open, airy, spacious, and have better imaging. The sound just blends into the room as if the C-300s disappear. The C-200s didn't impress me at all like that. There was simply put a quantum leap in performance.

I got them pretty cheap at $150 each which is less than I paid for the C-200s when the C-series came out about 4 or 5 years ago. I wasn't expecting them to sound that much better thinking just as you did that they are nothing but a C-200 in a larger box. I only got the C-300s so I could extend my surround sound to the backs going from 5.1 to 7.1. I got a lot more than I bargained for I will tell you that. I just wish now that I spent a little more and got the C-500s. I will never buy bookshelf speakers again. In fact I sold my C-200s and C-100s and bought 4 C-R100 Bipole surround speakers. Wow, that was another quantum leap in performance.

Also, you will need a pair of stands for the C-200s. Do yourself a favor and save it and put that cash toward a pair of C-300s or C-500s. You will have far better front pair without the expense and eyesore of speaker stands. The WAF is better. At least my wife was thrilled over them looking so much better.