Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[master gandhi]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

On the flip side, we wouldn't have boutique labels such as the excellent Camera Obscura or Arrow? (That's the key thing for me from using Amazon)

Yeah, Amazon seems to carry just about everything. What I don't like about them is that they hardly ever have decent exclusives and their prices are usually just them matching someone else. If they became the only way to buy movies, it would probably become more expensive and less exciting (because there would be no exclusives). But the same thing would happen if the home video world became all-digital. I doubt Amazon would ever become the only store and I doubt the world would go all-digital. The world needs competition.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by master gandhi

Yeah, Amazon seems to carry just about everything. What I don't like about them is that they hardly ever have decent exclusives and their prices are usually just them matching someone else. If they became the only way to buy movies, it would probably become more expensive and less exciting (because there would be no exclusives). But the same thing would happen if the home video world became all-digital. I doubt Amazon would ever become the only store and I doubt the world would go all-digital. The world needs competition.

I need blurays in my life lol. They are my bit of bliss in a turbulent world.

[master gandhi]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I need blurays in my life lol. They are my bit of bliss in a turbulent world.

Agreed. As much as I've taken a liking (loving?) to digital, I don't want to see Blu-ray/physical media disappear. It still represents the pinnacle in home video quality. Plus, I do like having movies on my shelves. What I don't like is the idea of disc rot/scratches, but I'll try not to think about that. It's not that common really.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by master gandhi

Agreed. As much as I've taken a liking (loving?) to digital, I don't want to see Blu-ray/physical media disappear. It still represents the pinnacle in home video quality. Plus, I do like having movies on my shelves. What I don't like is the idea of disc rot/scratches, but I'll try not to think about that. It's not that common really.

Never had it (touch wood )

[master gandhi]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Never had it (touch wood )

I've had issues with some of my discs, but not too many. That's bound to happen when you've been obsessively collecting discs for over 15 years.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by master Gandhi

So those 60 movies really are all at once each year? What gave you the idea to do it that way (Black Friday sales?)? I simply couldn't be satisfied with a single batch of movies once each year. Part of the thrill is adding something new to my collection. Yes, watching them is the primary purpose. But adding them is part of the fun too, whether that's physically or digitally. If I waited the whole year to buy my movies, I'd have compiled a list in the hundreds. Either that, or I'd be over collecting after a year without doing so has gone by.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It requires patience but I buy all the discs I want from that year at the end of the year. It means I am one year behind you guys but I always avoid spoilers in reviews. I have one film a week to watch until next December! so while you guys will be hyped for the latest films, I will be hyped for them next year.

For Example, The Conjuring 2 will be next years batch because it won't be out until October-November. I work through my discs and then start afresh in January. The one exception was Creed which I saw at the cinema.

I limit myself to 60 because it stops me getting carried away.

Oh and I know! It's very quirky.

This Tread with Steedeel has really become fascinating to me, 60 Movies bought all at once is very unique, not to mention expensive I estimate around $1000 more in Pounds. I know we might pay more, but it is spread out through the year. I guess your list is revised several times, but who gives the final okay? My main store use to be Best Buy, and I still use them now along with WalMart and Target. OnLine it's eBay, but when I buy Physical it has to have Digital HD or be Disc-to-Disc compatible.

I use to Rent Movies weekly from a Mom&Pop then I went to RedBox, now I balance buying from UV Stores and try to get the best price. I use UltraViolet Cinema: http://ultravioletcinema.com/getuv.php?q=HD

I don't think I have the patience to wait a year to watch Movies, I hate waiting the few months when they come out at the Cinema. That's why I love Digital HD, you can get them early and before they come out on Disc. I can't wait till they come out at the same time as Cinema....That day is coming real soon!

[knight17]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I don't think I have the patience to wait a year to watch Movies, I hate waiting the few months when they come out at the Cinema. That's why I love Digital HD, you can get them early and before they come out on Disc. I can't wait till they come out at the same time as Cinema....That day is coming real soon!

I highly doubt this will ever happen.

Digital copies are being made available way before Blu ray and DVDs to entice customers to switch (I have spoken enough about how this benefits studios in the past).

End of the day regardless of what anyone says, studios are only in it for the money. Why would they do that when they can charge you twice or more (Once for seeing it in the theater, another time for digital or blu ray etc).

I recall someone mentioning endless possibilities on digital. I am curious to know what this means. It's not like I can watch the movie on any device I want or any time I want without several restrictions. If it is actually endless someone probably conked the studio executives in the head.

[Krizzle1]

SteeDeels method of buying blurays is pretty clever tbh

January (and other early in the year) releases will be cheaper when bought around say Christmas

Might try this with digital

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I don't think I have the patience to wait a year to watch Movies, I hate waiting the few months when they come out at the Cinema. That's why I love Digital HD, you can get them early and before they come out on Disc. I can't wait till they come out at the same time as Cinema....That day is coming real soon!

Originally Posted by knight17

I highly doubt this will ever happen.

Digital copies are being made available way before Blu ray and DVDs to entice customers to switch (I have spoken enough about how this benefits studios in the past).

I recall someone mentioning endless possibilities on digital. I am curious to know what this means. It's not like I can watch the movie on any device I want or any time I want without several restrictions. If it is actually endless someone probably conked the studio executives in the head.

It's happening already, Vudu has Digital HD Movies out while they are still in the Theaters. When I talk about endless possibilities, I mean Streaming to your Home Theater, even though your Mobile Devices will be included too. Studios want their Movies out and making money, but I don't think even they know that with Digital HD they have opened Pandora's Box!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

This Tread with Steedeel has really become fascinating to me, 60 Movies bought all at once is very unique, not to mention expensive I estimate around $1000 more in Pounds. I know we might pay more, but it is spread out through the year. I guess your list is revised several times, but who gives the final okay? My main store use to be Best Buy, and I still use them now along with WalMart and Target. OnLine it's eBay, but when I buy Physical it has to have Digital HD or be Disc-to-Disc compatible.

I use to Rent Movies weekly from a Mom&Pop then I went to RedBox, now I balance buying from UV Stores and try to get the best price. I use UltraViolet Cinema: http://ultravioletcinema.com/getuv.php?q=HD

I don't think I have the patience to wait a year to watch Movies, I hate waiting the few months when they come out at the Cinema. That's why I love Digital HD, you can get them early and before they come out on Disc. I can't wait till they come out at the same time as Cinema....That day is coming real soon!

The thing is, all the movies you are very hyped to see this year, I will be very hyped to see next year! 60 blind buys and I am spoilt for choice. I research/read reviews and follow movies in development but once I have read several spoiler free reviews, that's it. I avoid that movie until watched. I saw The Force Awakens at the cinema in a rare exception but even then I won't be watching the Blu-Ray until Christmas time. (I have several films I watch over Christmas then I have a straight 52 discs to watch!

Price? Some of the discs have dropped to under £10, many are at the typical price of £14.99, others are specialist titles and are a little more expensive) It's a mixed bag. I think it's something like £750-£800. On top of that I buy tv like AHS and Bates Motel (sadly not Hannibal anymore)

With the PlayStation VR headset it's going to be bloody expensive this year but I don't have a wife or kids so that's a bonus!

The final ok? Not sure what you mean mate. If you mean when do I choose, I revise the list on my iPad over the year. It's worked as well, only ever put a handful of discs on EBay. I have way over the collection it states in my profile I have just been too lazy to add more titles. I must get around to it. Late November is my time to pounce. Like you say, some discs are cheaper and have dropped to under £10.

[master gandhi]

Originally Posted by Krizzle1

SteeDeels method of buying blurays is pretty clever tbh

January (and other early in the year) releases will be cheaper when bought around say Christmas

Might try this with digital

Yeah, I'm debating whether I should partially adopt this method. Not fully. I couldn't go a year without buying any movies, but I could get fewer movies each month, so I can get the rest of them cheaper at the end of the year. We'll see how patient I can be.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by master gandhi

Yeah, I'm debating whether I should partially adopt this method. Not fully. I couldn't go a year without buying any movies, but I could get fewer movies each month, so I can get the rest of them cheaper at the end of the year. We'll see how patient I can be.

Don't forget you are still entertained by the discs you have held off on!

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

With the PlayStation VR headset it's going to be bloody expensive this year but I don't have a wife or kids so that's a bonus!

The final ok? Not sure what you mean mate. If you mean when do I choose, I revise the list on my iPad over the year. It's worked as well, only ever put a handful of discs on EBay. I have way over the collection it states in my profile I have just been too lazy to add more titles. I must get around to it. Late November is my time to pounce. Like you say, some discs are cheaper and have dropped to under £10.

I forgot, you don't have a wife so the Final Okay is all in your hands. Yes, I remember when I was a Bachelor, the best of all worlds. No one to answer to, and you can do just about anything you want......Real Nice!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I forgot, you don't have a wife so the Final Okay is all in your hands. Yes, I remember when I was a Bachelor, the best of all worlds. No one to answer to, and you can do just about anything you want......Real Nice!

It's bliss!

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I forgot, you don't have a wife so the Final Okay is all in your hands. Yes, I remember when I was a Bachelor, the best of all worlds. No one to answer to, and you can do just about anything you want......Real Nice!

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It's bliss!

Don't get me wrong, I Love Wives, I've had three....With Three they throw away The Key! But like Dr. Malcolm in Jurassic Park said, "I'm always on the look out for a future ex-Mrs. Malcolm."

[master gandhi]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Don't forget you are still entertained by the discs you have held off on!

Yeah, I don't have a shortage of things to watch, but then new stuff also comes out that I want or stuff goes on sale, and I love a good sale price. It's tough. I've struggled with this almost since the beginning of my collecting days. I know the movies will still be there if I don't buy them now, but I might want to watch them now. I could wait to get Kung Fu Panda 3 next month, but I don't want to wait until the end of the year. That's me.

[PCFan]

This is a bit off topic but does every digital streaming service sometimes not have the original aspect ratio of a movie? I right now use Vudu as my main digital streaming provider and some movies I "own" through the service don't have the original aspect ratio, for example Batman: The Movie on Vudu is 1:78:1 but on the blu-ray it's 1:85:1. Also A Clockwork Orange in Vudu is stretched to 1:78:1 to fill the screen making everything on the screen look stretched horizontally but on the blu-ray it's 1:66:1. These are 2 movies that I did a D2D in Vudu. There are also some movies in Vudu that are 1:33:1 stretched to 1:78:1. Is aspect ratio issues with some movies in Vudu a good reason to switch to iTunes or will I also occasionally run into that issue in iTunes as well? It's just that I nearly "own" 500 movies in Vudu but only about 90 in iTunes and I just prefer to have all my movies in one digital library. Is this just a common issue with digital movies?

[Cranston37]

Originally Posted by PCFan

This is a bit off topic but does every digital streaming service sometimes not have the original aspect ratio of a movie? I right now use Vudu as my main digital streaming provider and some movies I "own" through the service don't have the original aspect ratio, for example Batman: The Movie on Vudu is 1:78:1 but on the blu-ray it's 1:85:1. Also A Clockwork Orange in Vudu is stretched to 1:78:1 to fill the screen making everything on the screen look stretched horizontally but on the blu-ray it's 1:66:1. These are 2 movies that I did a D2D in Vudu. There are also some movies in Vudu that are 1:33:1 stretched to 1:78:1. Is aspect ratio issues with some movies in Vudu a good reason to switch to iTunes or will I also occasionally run into that issue in iTunes as well? It's just that I nearly "own" 500 movies in Vudu but only about 90 in iTunes and I just prefer to have all my movies in one digital library. Is this just a common issue with digital movies?

Yep, very common. I have FandangoNow on my Roku so I can switch to that if a title is incorrect on Vudu

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by PCFan

This is a bit off topic but does every digital streaming service sometimes not have the original aspect ratio of a movie? I right now use Vudu as my main digital streaming provider and some movies I "own" through the service don't have the original aspect ratio, for example Batman: The Movie on Vudu is 1:78:1 but on the blu-ray it's 1:85:1. Also A Clockwork Orange in Vudu is stretched to 1:78:1 to fill the screen making everything on the screen look stretched horizontally but on the blu-ray it's 1:66:1. These are 2 movies that I did a D2D in Vudu. There are also some movies in Vudu that are 1:33:1 stretched to 1:78:1. Is aspect ratio issues with some movies in Vudu a good reason to switch to iTunes or will I also occasionally run into that issue in iTunes as well? It's just that I nearly "own" 500 movies in Vudu but only about 90 in iTunes and I just prefer to have all my movies in one digital library. Is this just a common issue with digital movies?

I think it's because a lot of people complain about the Black Bars, and don't want to see them. It use to bother me, but now I hardly notice them. The Movies are shot in different Aspect Ratios, and I guess it is difficult to keep up. Most of us have 16:9 (1.77:1) HDTV's, while the old standard was 4:3 (1.33:1.) American Cinema uses 1.85:1 and 2.39:1, then up until 1953 they used 1.375:1. So don't you think all those numbers make your head spin, I'm sure it's tough keeping all these Movies to a good viewing Standard.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by PCFan

This is a bit off topic but does every digital streaming service sometimes not have the original aspect ratio of a movie? I right now use Vudu as my main digital streaming provider and some movies I "own" through the service don't have the original aspect ratio, for example Batman: The Movie on Vudu is 1:78:1 but on the blu-ray it's 1:85:1. Also A Clockwork Orange in Vudu is stretched to 1:78:1 to fill the screen making everything on the screen look stretched horizontally but on the blu-ray it's 1:66:1. These are 2 movies that I did a D2D in Vudu. There are also some movies in Vudu that are 1:33:1 stretched to 1:78:1. Is aspect ratio issues with some movies in Vudu a good reason to switch to iTunes or will I also occasionally run into that issue in iTunes as well? It's just that I nearly "own" 500 movies in Vudu but only about 90 in iTunes and I just prefer to have all my movies in one digital library. Is this just a common issue with digital movies?

This is one of the absolute major reasons I do purchase digital sometimes. If HBO and STARZ were 100% on the original aspect ratio of all films like most of the time Netflix and Amazon, I don't think I'd make another digital purchase. That's how seriously take original aspect ratio. As it stands, HBO has gotten better but it seems to be for specific directors like Scott and Soderbergh. As for STARZ, they actually have a better streaming quality and deeper catalog than HBO but again, original aspect ratio is a problem.