Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Phillip c. Niethe

You live in Estonia?

No, but I have been stoned in the distant past; does that count?

[rui no onna]

Originally Posted by Vilya

The week ending Aug. 17th wasn't too shabby. Overall discs sales were down just 1.99% and blu-ray/ 4K discs were up 5.8%.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=1183

I was referring specifically to Marvel 4K re-releases likely not affecting 9/14 sales much. Usually, release week is peak sales then it tapers after.

United States Blu-ray Sales Chart for Week Ending August 18, 2019

1  Avengers: Endgame        1,791,368    $40,395,348
3  Captain Marvel              76,348     $1,523,908	
7  Avengers: Infinity War      23,718       $462,495
10 Iron Man                    14,671       $359,594
11 Thor                        10,569       $212,544
12 Iron Man 2                  10,354       $212,156
13 Iron Man 3                  10,032       $123,289
16 Thor: The Dark World         8,760       $186,496
18 Spider-Man: Homecoming       6,128        $72,005
19 Avengers 4-Movie Collection  5,840       $870,139

United States Blu-ray Sales Chart for Week Ending August 25, 2019

1  Avengers: Endgame          553,051    $13,804,153
6  Captain Marvel              29,903       $596,873	
12 Avengers: Infinity War      12,316       $307,418

I expect the Infinity Saga box set is gonna be a big seller, though.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by rui no onna

I was referring specifically to Marvel 4K re-releases likely not affecting 9/14 sales much. Usually, release week is peak sales then it tapers after.

[Show spoiler]

United States Blu-ray Sales Chart for Week Ending August 18, 2019

1  Avengers: Endgame        1,791,368    $40,395,348
3  Captain Marvel              76,348     $1,523,908	
7  Avengers: Infinity War      23,718       $462,495
10 Iron Man                    14,671       $359,594
11 Thor                        10,569       $212,544
12 Iron Man 2                  10,354       $212,156
13 Iron Man 3                  10,032       $123,289
16 Thor: The Dark World         8,760       $186,496
18 Spider-Man: Homecoming       6,128        $72,005
19 Avengers 4-Movie Collection  5,840       $870,139

United States Blu-ray Sales Chart for Week Ending August 25, 2019

1  Avengers: Endgame          553,051    $13,804,153
6  Captain Marvel              29,903       $596,873	
12 Avengers: Infinity War      12,316       $307,418

I expect the Infinity Saga box set is gonna be a big seller, though.

[Show spoiler]

Disney released so much on 4K disc all at once that many people likely had to stagger their purchases over more than one pay period. The steelbook collectors were especially vocal at how much it was going to cost them to buy them all on release day; they were worried that if they waited the steelbooks would sell out, but they had to risk it because it was too much all at once for some of them.

All of this highly popular content coming out on 4K disc could only have helped disc sales whatever it worked out to on a per title basis.

[Phillip c. Niethe]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Disney released so much on 4K disc all at once that many people likely had to stagger their purchases over more than one pay period. The steelbook collectors were especially vocal at how much it was going to cost them to buy them all on release day; they were worried that if they waited the steelbooks would sell out, but they had to risk it because it was too much all at once for some of them.

All of this highly popular content coming out on 4K disc could only have helped disc sales whatever it worked out to on a per title basis.

my wallet is still screaming, next Tuesday it is going to hate me for Dr. Strange, Spider-Man, Guardians, and Pan's Labyrinth...then the following Tuesday Hellboy and 3rd Doctor complete season...dinner shall consist of peanut butter sandwiches and Ramen noodles ha ha

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Phillip c. Niethe

my wallet is still screaming, next Tuesday it is going to hate me for Dr. Strange, Spider-Man, Guardians, and Pan's Labyrinth...then the following Tuesday Hellboy and 3rd Doctor complete season...dinner shall consist of peanut butter sandwiches and Ramen noodles ha ha

Your wallet is screaming? Mine died a violent death and now terrorizes me as an implacable poltergeist for buying that TV!

[rui no onna]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Disney released so much on 4K disc all at once that many people likely had to stagger their purchases over more than one pay period.

Disney's gotta pay for those 4K content they're putting on Disney+ somehow. There's likely a lot of investment to be made before their new streaming service is in the black.

The steelbook collectors were especially vocal at how much it was going to cost them to buy them all on release day; they were worried that if they waited the steelbooks would sell out, but they had to risk it because it was too much all at once for some of them.

Ugh, I'm one of them. It's really nice to get steelbooks with matching themes, though. I've only bought MCU steels for the movies I like although IM 2-3 and Thor 2 are really nagging at my completionist OCD.

[Boccaccio]

United States Blu-ray Sales Chart for Week Ending August 18, 2019

1 Avengers: Endgame 1,791,368 $40,395,348
3 Captain Marvel 76,348 $1,523,908
7 Avengers: Infinity War 23,718 $462,495
10 Iron Man 14,671 $359,594
11 Thor 10,569 $212,544
12 Iron Man 2 10,354 $212,156
13 Iron Man 3 10,032 $123,289
16 Thor: The Dark World 8,760 $186,496
18 Spider-Man: Homecoming 6,128 $72,005
19 Avengers 4-Movie Collection 5,840 $870,139


Wait, so Disney earned 40M $ with Avengers: Endgame Blu-ray sales in one week alone ? No way they're ever going to give that up. I'm even more convinced that The Mandalorian will eventually get a Blu-ray release. Maybe not immediately but after a year or so. Come on Disney

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Phillip c. Niethe

That does sound sketchy, England and all of the British Isles has a far heartier history of rebellion than the U.S. ...If things get apocalyptic, I think you guys on the other side of the pond will fare a bit better...

I think we are already there.

[rui no onna]

Originally Posted by Boccaccio

Wait, so Disney earned 40M $ with Avengers: Endgame Blu-ray sales in one week alone ? No way they're ever going to give that up. I'm even more convinced that The Mandalorian will eventually get a Blu-ray release. Maybe not immediately but after a year or so. Come on Disney

That's revenue, iirc. No idea how much Disney's and retailer's takes are.

You should see the numbers for Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Weekly US Blu-ray Sales

Apr 10, 2016  3,420,540    $85,376,678
Apr 17, 2016    688,619    $17,187,930

That said, those are tentpole titles.

I'm sure there are plenty of Disney TV series that never saw a home video release. The saving grace is since it's Star Wars, it'd probably be popular enough to warrant a Blu-ray release.

[dublinbluray108]

The Flixster Video migration to Google Play began recently. The task of migrating most of my titles in my Flixster Video library has been a good success. It took me about 30 minutes to port over 49 titles to GP. But some of them won't port to GP from my country at all because they are not available at all or have some apparent problems with portability even though they are available on the GP website. I know that Season 1 of Gotham & Top Gear The Perfect Road Trip are not available on GP at all. Percy Jackson Sea of Monsters & The Monuments Men is available on GP but for some reason it's not able to port over from Flixster to GP. I sent a support ticket to WB Digital Support last night to try & reclaim some of missing titles. No replies yet but I will keep my fingers crossed for a reply.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by dublinbluray108

The Flixster Video migration to Google Play began recently. The task of migrating most of my titles in my Flixster Video library has been a good success. It took me about 30 minutes to port over 49 titles to GP. But some of them won't port to GP from my country at all because they are not available at all or have some apparent problems with portability even though they are available on the GP website. I know that Season 1 of Gotham & Top Gear The Perfect Road Trip are not available on GP at all. Percy Jackson Sea of Monsters & The Monuments Men is available on GP but for some reason it's not able to port over from Flixster to GP. I sent a support ticket to WB Digital Support last night to try & reclaim some of missing titles. No replies yet but I will keep my fingers crossed for a reply.

I don't get why anyone who loves discs would waste their time with this. I mean, ITunes has much better quality anyway if digital is your thing. It basically means you own a back up but with severe compromises. Poorly defined backgrounds, banding, pixelation, less defined fine detail. I don’t get it.

[dublinbluray108]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I don't get why anyone who loves discs would waste their time with this. I mean, ITunes has much better quality anyway if digital is your thing. It basically means you own a back up but with severe compromises. Poorly defined backgrounds, banding, pixelation, less defined fine detail. I don’t get it.

I know what you're saying here. I even checked each movie title after I ported over most of the library to look at potential extras last night. But nothing was there at all when talking about special features. So yes; you are right to say that it is a service with severe compromises. It is really only a small benefit to my movie watching hobby when I can only stream the titles on the app or through Youtube Movies. Most of movie watching is still done via physical copies on Blu-ray or DVD when I'm at home. I like the security of doing that with discs. With streaming or download services; there is not much security to talk about when watching something from it.

[Steedeel]

Hearing reports in the UK that the Flixster to Google transition has left many titles unable to transfer. Some are saying only 10% of their collection is copying over.

What a monumental disaster Digital HD has been. U.K. and many other major countries didn’t even have the early disc to digital option either.

RIP

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Object based broadcasting isn’t here yet. It’s about 2-3 years away.

OBB isn’t just another option. It will form the basis of all video and audio content.

future or PAST? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...443-story.html

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Vilya

One of the aspects of this Object Based Borecasting crap is that it will let the viewer make choices that guide the narrative direction and outcome of the movie. This will involve being bombarded with menu choices every few minutes and I think that will begin to annoy people after the novelty wears off. Ironically, having to make such decisions repeatedly could require more attention to be paid than just passively staring at a screen.

Not exactly it depends on the circumstances. a game like Dragon's lair you watched a short animation and then had to click, a movie, like clue, could be pick an ending, videoway back in the 90's had a feature for some hockey matches where you could pick to change camera a nd so the view of the game as well as an instant replay. You could always watch the game in the default camera view. I can see for a film like LOTR where a message " push A for extended scene" would pop up and you would have a short time to press the button before it is too late.

The problem with stuff like this is that it becomes expensive especialy if it is a real decision tree scenario.

[The_Donster]

So how’s that new flatscreen working out for you Vilya

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by The_Donster

So how’s that new flatscreen working out for you Vilya

Yea Vilya hope things are working out for you.....It seems you should have Posted something by now.

[Steedeel]

I think maybe he watched the third series of Twin Peaks on his new tv and is now in the lodge.

Which lodge that is remains a mystery!

[Wendell R. Breland]

It appears that many UltraViolet (UV) members did not sign up with Movies Anyhere (MA). The last figures I remember for UV was 12 to 14 million for the US and 21 million worldwide. MA says they have reached 8 million members (here). Not sure how the writer concluded MA has reached a “huge milestone.” It appears the writer did no know many of the UV studios sent emails to members telling them to sign up for a MA account.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

It appears that many UltraViolet (UV) members did not sign up with Movies Anyhere (MA). The last figures I remember for UV was 12 to 14 million for the US and 21 million worldwide. MA says they have reached 8 million members (here). Not sure how the writer concluded MA has reached a “huge milestone.” It appears the writer did no know many of the UV studios sent emails to members telling them to sign up for a MA account.

Dead format is dead.