Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

oh give me a break. It's called "save something for the movie and not put everything in the trailer," Don't be such a baby.

My statement was a response to a question about Luke being saved for a later film, not the trailer issue.

Originally Posted by Eye Candy

Earplugs... or just tissue in the ears does the trick for me.

Wouldn't that defeat the point of an IMAX showing? I've only been to one, and while the picture was great, the sound was so loud it kept snapping me out of the story. Overall, I feel safer just sticking with the usual...standard 2D, no frills.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by jtwise

I had to drive out to the IMAX near me and get tickets

Same thing here. But I got 'em for opening night.

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by TheHutt

Hello lensflare, my old friend

[Show spoiler]

That's fine because of the fire so it's natural to cause the anamorphic lens flare. Even if it's artificial is also fine if the source light is logical to the scene, but if it comes out of nowhere then that's a no for me.

[TheHutt]

Midnight showing in our local premium theatre. Practically sold out on day one! They had to add another screen, and it's almost sold out as well.

[DaFees]

So now I got to wonder, after reading this page, http://www.imax.com/community/blog/s...s-on-sale-now/ , will IMAX not be doing 3D 15/70mm film prints? I know they're doing 2D 15/70mm film prints but I'm one of the few that actually prefers 3D and there isn't any of the new laser setups in my area (Not that I'd want that over film anyways but still). Also the only 2D film print near enough to me is in a dome theater and I'm not sure how I'd feel about seeing a movie like this in a dome theater mostly because I've never seen any movies in a dome theater.

EDIT - Seeing the movie listed on this page gives me hope, https://www.imax.com/theatres/t/lock...-space-museum/

[Geoff D]

Dude, I'd sacrifice all your souls to be able to see the 2D 15/70 print, but it seems as if there are no UK locations on there. There's the 3D laser version at the Empire IMAX (duggie will be pleased!) but I don't wanna see it in 3D. Boo-urns.

[edit] Even though it's damned cool that they're doing 15/70 at all (and this may well be the last, unless BvS can wrangle a few more prints out of them) it's a damned shame the premier 15/70 location in the entire UK (BFI IMAX) isn't on there. It hasn't got laser yet, it won't apparently get a 15/70 print, so we'll have to make do with a 2K projection? **** that noise, jack.

[TheWildWhelk]

That trailer was superbly put together, showing a lot and not a great deal at the same time. There was no 'End Game' reveal in it, unless we are going to assume that the Starkiller Base on the poster and the X-Wing/Tie Fighters duelling over the ice planet is infact the base. Got a film lecture this afternoon, going to download a full HD version of it and show it after the lecture. No way before!

[Geoff D]

Yup, awesome trailer. Got goosebumps and tears in my eyes, this can't come soon enough.

[dgoswald]

I was not expecting that! Visuals aside (a huge departure from the sand and space settings of previous films) this has me intrigued.

I felt shivers, and I'm not even a hardcore SW fan. I still believe the 3 main leads will echo the Luke, Han, and Leia character beats, and the new trilogy will ultimately focus on destroying a resurgent Empire, but overall it seems fresh enough to warrant getting excited over.

I hope JJ delivers. I did not find his Trek films compelling at all.

[Prog5000]

This movie looks great.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by AlwaysRelaxing24

If they make Luke the bad guy (which I have thought was a possibility for a long time).... It completely goes against the entire story arc of the original movies. Anakin going to the dark side was supposed to be an impossible thing to come back from. It was special that he was able to turn back and it took his son being tortured to do so. And Luke made a choice with The Emperor not to turn to the Dark Side near the end of Episode VI.

To all of a sudden have him being the bad guy would be laughably bad writing....

Well, the "Dark Empire" comics in the mid-90s had him going dark, trying to defeat a cloned Emperor by learning his secrets from within. It took Leia confronting him in a lightsaber fight, to bring him back from the abyss.

It feels like they had a story they wanted to tell with the new movies and are shoving it into the current story. Instead, they needed to look at what would have been the logical next steps for each character, and then proceeded from there. Oh wait. The logical next story was that the Dark Side was gone and there was peace in the galaxy. Can't make money on that storyline. Having an Episode VII is the equivalent of having a sequel to The Return of the King. It makes no sense.

There's a notable difference. In Tolkien's works, the destruction of the One Ring served as the finale to a war that had lasted for thousands of years. By contrast, "Return of the Jedi" showed the Alliance winning a pivotal battle against the Empire, which included Anakin's redemption...but there's still a ton of corrupt officers and troops out there. The old adage about military battle is to first take out the General, but it never says to stop at that point. The Rebels still had lots of work to do; Yoda even charged Luke with restoring the Jedi Order.

All new Star Wars movies should have been set before Episode I-VI. They could have done it 5,000 years before so they could have almost free reign with the story....

Everything prior to "The Phantom Menace" has been rendered non-canon by Disney, so there's nowhere to go. The events of that film are now the official beginning of the "Star Wars" franchise.

[Ernest Rister]

It's kinda confusing how some of you guys are afraid of LucasFilm turning a branded character like Luke evil, and ending the most important film on their docket on such an audience-enraging note.

Rest assured, that's not happening. Luke is not evil, film is designed from the bottom-up to be a massive crowd pleaser because it has to be. It's the cornerstone upon which all of LucasFilm will rest. No way on this Earth or any other Earth that they turn that guy evil. Sure, they'll try and misdirect you for much of the movie until Real Luke shows up and kicks ass. But audiences will pour out of the movie screaming with joy. It has to be that kind of movie.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

First off: loved the trailer, got my tix, super pumped.

But… I gotta say, this path they're going down, with a universe that doesn't even seem to remember or believe in the old legends, and with our beloved elderly heroes still fighting the good fight… I kinda have an uneasy feeling that it undermines everything we rooted for in the original trilogy. The victories obviously didn't amount to much. To paraphrase Yoda: this new direction may "destroy all for which they have fought and suffered."

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I suspect we'll learn a fair amount about what's happened in the last 30 years, that resulted in the Jedi becoming mythical.

steel, I don't think it'll be like the Rebellion itself never happened, but seeing how the Jedi went from galactic peacekeepers to an archaic forgotten tribe in the 19 years between III and IV (the Empire's PR machine having done its job) I didn't think they were suddenly gonna be front page news again. Obi-Wan and Yoda are both dead and the only remaining 'Jedi' exponent of the Force is this kid wielding a lightsaber like a wiffle bat. If the rumours are true and Luke has gone into hiding anyway then that will only set the cause of the Jedi and their "sad devotion to that ancient religion" back further in the years between VI and VII.

Yeah, we can be cynical and say that they've done it so they can retell the story of the Force all over again for a new generation of fans, with Rey clearly in the "restless inhabitant of dustbowl planet who longs for some offworld excitement" role, but I honestly like where they've gone with it. We got the big celebration at the end of Jedi, granted, but there's no way the Imperial Navy would've just folded after that and they've fought an attritional civil war with the 'New Republic' ever since. Now that their new superweapon (Starkiller Base) is ready to rumble, they're on the charge again. (That celebration can now be viewed much like those in I or IV, e.g. darker times always follow a big blow-out in Star Wars. In that respect the original version without the planet montage will work a lot better leading into VII.)

[Moviefan2k4]

The planet montage in "Jedi" still works though, since Palpatine had so many systems under his control. Without him, the Empire has no structure; its all just a bunch of thugs fighting for supremacy. I strongly suspect the so-called "First Order" will end up being just another splinter group, and Kylo Ren the true threat. But it would be even better, if another manipulator was pulling strings. Otherwise, the series just devolves into one "kill the current Sith" story, ad infinitum.

[aiman04]

[GC Riot]

When reading the Shattered Empire comic, which takes place just after the events of RotJ, it's clear that the Empire has no real intention of throwing in the towel. They even show Palpatine having recorded instructions for the remaining forces as a contingency plan in the case of his demise. The Emperor may be gone, but his forces, intentions and legacy still lives on.
EDIT: Not unlike the Saw-films, where Jigsaw's plan spans an additional four films after his death.

[bladerunner1]

Originally Posted by AlwaysRelaxing24

Some people are assuming because Luke is not in the trailer that he might end up being the villain of this trilogy....

If they make Luke the bad guy (which I have thought was a possibility for a long time).... It completely goes against the entire story arc of the original movies. Anakin going to the dark side was supposed to be an impossible thing to come back from. It was special that he was able to turn back and it took his son being tortured to do so. And Luke made a choice with The Emperor not to turn to the Dark Side near the end of Episode VI.

To all of a sudden have him being the bad guy would be laughably bad writing....

It feels like they had a story they wanted to tell with the new movies and are shoving it into the current story. Instead, they needed to look at what would have been the logical next steps for each character, and then proceeded from there. Oh wait. The logical next story was that the Dark Side was gone and there was peace in the galaxy. Can't make money on that storyline. Having an Episode VII is the equivalent of having a sequel to The Return of the King. It makes no sense.

All new Star Wars movies should have been set before Episode I-VI. They could have done it 5,000 years before so they could have almost free reign with the story....

Right because once peace is had.. it lasts forever and ever. Especially in the galaxy.

I'd say 32 years of peace is pretty good and the battle did it's job.

Fear not though Luke will not be "evil" in this film. Something else might happen you (everybody?) may not like though.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by Brightstar

This is gonna be the best star wars film ever epic trailer i cant wait !! Kylo Ren saying i will finish what you have started is chilling

Is Kylo Ren luke skywaker turned to the dark side ??

May The force be with you

How on earth do people keep saying this? For gods sake, you see him without his helmet IN THE TRAILER. It's Adam Driver. He's a new character.

Lol, Luke isn't evil.

[JeffTheMovieGuy]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

How on earth do people keep saying this? For gods sake, you see him without his helmet IN THE TRAILER. It's Adam Driver. He's a new character.

Lol, Luke isn't evil.

Because in some of the comics Luke turns Darkside for a hot minute.

[chris_sc77]

trailer was good but it did fill me with fear . really hope this film isnt just the Rey and Finn show