Disney shelving Live Action UHD Catalog Titles (besides new films)

[rexcrk]

This definitely sucks, but for me, I think the only thing I’m really missing are the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. I can’t think of any other live action Disney movies that are must-haves on the format.

I wonder if Nightmare Before Christmas is included in this too.

[SmittysGelato]

Damn. Worst decision Disney has ever made by far. Does this include Indiana Jones? Or does Paramount still have a piece of that?

I hate the idea of never having Lost in 4K.

[mlabonte21]

Originally Posted by AreaFive

Going forward the Vita had physical game cards and the digital only version of the PlayStastion 4 was much like the Xbox One digital only versions, an alternate model.

There’s a digital-only SKU for PS4?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

Yeah, well, a user named SB0780 claims he has a personal contact who works in the Home Entertainment department, and they said that exact same thing, that there will be no more Disney/Fox live action catalog 4K Blu-Rays after Hocus Pocus and Home Alone. He also posted via the same source that they were both coming to 4K UHD a month before they were officially announced, so they appear to be reliable.

Or they just made a lucky guess? Or maybe his source was privy to this specific release info, but not to Disney's overall home entertainment marketing strategy?

None of this can be verified, so it remains speculation.

[AreaFive]

Originally Posted by mlabonte21

There’s a digital-only SKU for PS4?

Wasn't there? If not, I stand corrected. I may be thinking of the Xbox One S.

Point being, SONY's not made digital only the only option with a console or handheld release since (as an aside they seem to have dropped out of the handheld market entirely). The news that the upcoming PlayStation 5 will have a 4K drive is welcome indeed, in addition to continuing this trend.

[Pyoko]

Originally Posted by happydood

I still buy way too many discs and both kids regard watching a movie on disc on movie nights as a more special experience because they look better and we treat it as an event.

I feel like this. I turn off the lights and internet-connected gadgets, put in a disc, and for two hours I can have as close to an isolated cinematic experience as possible in at least something approaching the best quality that could reasonably be delivered to consumers. Streaming just always feels a bit... cheap. I don't know, maybe it's just my associations. Social media being the main entertainment platform, everything else is just food for the feed or passing time. Watching movies on a phone on the way to work. Live-tweeting movies. Stuff like that.

Originally Posted by 1924

Don’t be too sure. Paramount has also seem to given up on 4K discs with only a few exceptions. They’re releasing the 4K with Dolby Vision/HDR digitally only and I wouldn’t be surprised if they do that with The Godfather

I really cannot see The Godfather of all movies not being one of those exceptions.

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

The've done so with classics already. I have the digital 4K of Chinatown and it looks great.

Did they even do a new 4K restoration or is it still the same old Lowry garbage?

[Freddie_Quell]

Originally Posted by BENNIE QUINCY SHAFT

The censoring done by Disney is what has turned me off from ever again buying anything Disney. I'll resume buying their product again when they finally release, "Song of the South," on Blu-ray and DVD. Also, what's with the holding back of The Beatles' "Get Back" film for another year? In my opinion, Disney has never been customer friendly.

They can't release Song of the South in the world we live in. That's not Disney's fault if people are idiots.

Toy Story 2, Splash, Fantasia, ... Those are hard to justify.

[mlabonte21]

Originally Posted by Freddie_Quell

They can't release Song of the South in the world we live in. That's not Disney's fault if people are idiots.

Toy Story 2, Splash, Fantasia, ... Those are hard to justify.

What censoring happened in Toy Story 2?

[Freddie_Quell]

Originally Posted by mlabonte21

What censoring happened in Toy Story 2?

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[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by rexcrk

This definitely sucks, but for me, I think the only thing I’m really missing are the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. I can’t think of any other live action Disney movies that are must-haves on the format.

Same.

[Farerb]

Originally Posted by Freddie_Quell

They can't release Song of the South in the world we live in. That's not Disney's fault if people are idiots.

Toy Story 2, Splash, Fantasia, ... Those are hard to justify.

Fantasia is not hard to justify at all, the censorship could have been done better but keeping it would have been really uncomfortable.

I can also understand Toy Story 2 considering what happened with Lasseter.

[LoSouL]

Things that weren't going to happen aren't going to happen.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Pyoko

Streaming just always feels a bit... cheap. I don't know, maybe it's just my associations.

I'm watching on a large screen, but even 1080p streaming lacks a 'solidness' and stable look to the image vs Blu-ray 1080p. Maybe I need more bandwidth (although 1080p doesn't take a lot), but I not even talking about artifacts and other issues. Almost like a thinness to the image...something less natural.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Pyoko

I feel like this. I turn off the lights and internet-connected gadgets, put in a disc, and for two hours I can have as close to an isolated cinematic experience as possible in at least something approaching the best quality that could reasonably be delivered to consumers. Streaming just always feels a bit... cheap. I don't know, maybe it's just my associations. Social media being the main entertainment platform, everything else is just food for the feed or passing time. Watching movies on a phone on the way to work. Live-tweeting movies. Stuff like that.


I really cannot see The Godfather of all movies not being one of those exceptions.


Did they even do a new 4K restoration or is it still the same old Lowry garbage?

Don't know what the Lowry's garbage is. I do know that the iTunes version has Dolby Vision.

[KidSqueek]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I’ll buy all the Disney UHD that I want from what’s available.

I don’t “buy” digital copies anymore. I was buying iTunes movies till my Daniel Craig movies suddenly went from 4K to HD for a while with no eta for them coming back. Now the Goonies has gone from 4K to HD till the end of the month and digital movie buyers are OK with temporary loss of movies.

I have only used someone else’s Disney+ account ( a friend who was visiting) and I would not support any steaming service including Netfux. I have other people’s logins (that they share willingly) and I still don’t use them lately because I keep the internet bandwidth for my kids who use it more.

I prefer UHD and when they stop making them I may stop buying them but I won’t switch to leasing movies from a subscription service. I won’t support that.

EXACTLY! Most people I say this to never understand. You never truly "own" a digital purchase, it's more like a license fee and you have no control of the quality. I noticed this also with Robert Downey Jr's 'Sherlock Holmes' films on iTunes, they were 4K, then went down to HD for a while and just recently went back to 4K. I know it has happened to other movies as well. It's really annoying. Plus, the quality of a stream compared to a disc is night and day for me.

Even with video games I refuse to go full digital. I do not trust these companies.

[Freddie_Quell]

Originally Posted by farerb

Fantasia is not hard to justify at all, the censorship could have been done better but keeping it would have been really uncomfortable.

I can also understand Toy Story 2 considering what happened with Lasseter.

It's hard to justify because it's damaging someone's art/work. That's also censorship, and that's unacceptable.

Song of the South is simply buried somewhere because people can't take it nowadays. It's self-preservation, and I can accept that.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I'm watching on a large screen, but even 1080p streaming lacks a 'solidness' and stable look to the image vs Blu-ray 1080p. Maybe I need more bandwidth (although 1080p doesn't take a lot), but I not even talking about artifacts and other issues. Almost like a thinness to the image...something less natural.

Streaming is usually around 5-20 Megabits/sec on average depending on whether it's 1080p or 2160p. Unless you have a bare bones streaming plan, bandwidth is not your issue. I've upgraded to a JVC D-ILA 4k projector and streaming just doesn't hold up at all.



When I'm close to my computer monitor and watching streamed content, I can see all kinds of compression garbage and banding in the darker areas as well.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Freddie_Quell

It's hard to justify because it's damaging someone's art/work. That's also censorship, and that's unacceptable.

Song of the South is simply buried somewhere because people can't take it nowadays. It's self-preservation, and I can accept that.

Fantasia's centaur sequence was actually censored by Walt Disney himself as even he had second thoughts about the horrible caricature of a black girl in that section of the film. Disney wasn't exactly the purist soul in the land and that still got to him over time and so it was zoomed in and cropped.


Song of the South is far less racially insensitive than Gone With the Wind and Birth of a Nation, to name but two films that have not been taken out of circulation. They could put a Leonard Maltin "explanation" before the film about movies of the day, as they did with some of the more bigoted Disney shorts on the DVD tins, but at least restore it and let people decide for themselves.

[BobbyMcGee]

Catalog titles will not keep me as a paid subscriber to Disney+, original content like the Mandalorian will.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by BobbyMcGee

Catalog titles will not keep me as a paid subscriber to Disney+, original content like the Mandalorian will.

However, Disney does not know that. A win is a win in their book. Don't succumb.