Halloween Kills 4K UHD (2021)

[MuffinMcFluffin]

When did I say that he cheated? I just said "drama." I also didn't state there weren't apologies, but rather it was lacking that need for forgiveness.

I just thought it would have been a good resolving moment, not that they couldn't set little HS drama aside. My point is that it was disconnected tissue from H2018. If you didn't see the movie you wouldn't know that anything had transpired. From a storytelling/character development perspective, I found that jarring.

For something that happened literally moments after the events of the previous film, putting those moments in back-to-back fashion just has a little disjointedness is all. And I completely acknowledge that those events are inconsequential to everything that had transpired since and was to go on afterward.

[rooboy78]

Originally Posted by MuffinMcFluffin

When did I say that he cheated? I just said "drama." I also didn't state there weren't apologies, but rather it was lacking that need for forgiveness.

I just thought it would have been a good resolving moment, not that they couldn't set little HS drama aside. My point is that it was disconnected tissue from H2018. If you didn't see the movie you wouldn't know that anything had transpired. From a storytelling/character development perspective, I found that jarring.

For something that happened literally moments after the events of the previous film, putting those moments in back-to-back fashion just has a little disjointedness is all. And I completely acknowledge that those events are inconsequential to everything that had transpired since and was to go on afterward.

Well maybe you didn’t say it but A LOT of people consider what Cameron did cheating and think it’s a dealbreaker. It’s like COME ON. Plus, if you saw the deleted scenes from 2018 it shows Alyson forgave him literally minutes later and laughed it off.

[brownstones19]

I'm curious to see a fan supercut between the 2018 film and kills, but idk how smoothly it would work.

[ryanmj1993]

So does anybody know yet what big of a difference the extended cut will be. I know there were a few things cut and trimmed down. Really hoping it’s the cut that they showed to test audiences

[rocknblues81]

Originally Posted by manwithnoname64

I just watched this last night. The dialogue is horrible. Anthony Michael Hall’s performance just wasn’t convincingly delivered for me. The mob idea makes sense, but it was poorly executed to me. For all that was happening, I never really felt the tension or angst of the town or the individual encounters. The hospital mob scenes lacked a rawness that I would have wanted to see.I’m also a fan of the less graphic kill style. I like letting the audience imagine what must have happened more so than witnessing it. I generally think that modern movies reveal too much and miss out on the power of tapping into the audiences ability to imagine certain events. The humor was definitely better, and they did establish the 1/2 scene victims better. I enjoyed Big John and Little John by far the most out of the new characters. The music was also great.

I’m not a horror film or slasher buff, so I’m not the target audience. However, I do enjoy the original Halloween and other more psychological horror type movies. As a result, this movie was ok to watch for me, but I’m glad it came free with my Xfinity subscription because I probably wouldn’t buy it. I’ll look forward to seeing what Halloween Ends has in store, but I didn’t enjoy the execution of this movie. I think the premise could have worked, but like a lot of the movies I’ve watched streamed in the past year, WW84, Reminiscence, and Malignant, it was poorly executed and failed to get me engrossed in the world I was watching.

AMH isn't given a lot to work with and so I find it hard to blame him.

[brownstones19]

Originally Posted by ryanmj1993

So does anybody know yet what big of a difference the extended cut will be. I know there were a few things cut and trimmed down. Really hoping it’s the cut that they showed to test audiences

All we know is that it will have an extended ending

[rocknblues81]

Originally Posted by The80s

I watched it a second time last night. Ooof. The first time I walked out thinking "This was better than H'18." (I found H'18 to be dreadful) but after this second viewing, it's still better than H'18, but on its own it's just atrocious. Two terrible movies in a row.

I can't wait for this dogshit trilogy to be over with. I'm more interested in what comes next than I am for Halloween Ends. Just get it over with already.

Btw, I found the music in Kills to be rather shit. It's a VERY weak score by John Carpenter and Co. Normally Carpenter does some amazing work but H'18 was very underwhelming and HK was straight up garbage.

No chance that the music in this movie is remembered like the score from the original.

[Law212]

I just finished watching Halloween Kills about 5 minutes ago.
After watching Halloween 2018 a few days ago , and not liking it much. It had a lot wrong with it and was pretty darned boring all the way to the end.

I loved this one. Loved it. I'm so glad Laurie was sidelined first of all.
The flashback with the cops in myers house and Loomis , showing how Myers got caught, was fantastic . One issue I had with the first movie was i felt that myers should have gotten away becasue having him caught and in a prison for years made him too human ... well they way they did this scene showing him surrounded by cops out side his home was awesome. It was an awesome scene and with how good it was when the title came up and the music started, I was so ready for this.

Thinking wow, maybe this wont suck.

And it didnt. I loved that they brought back characters from the first movie . That was a great idea.

I liked the new characters, a lot more than I liked Laurie and her family.

I liked that they established that Myers is not after Laurie.

The kills were amazing. I really enjoyed the amount of blood and gore , the atmosphere for this movie was a lot darker in tone.

The scene where he gets out of the burning house .... awesome.

The music in this movie was top notch.

I loved the hospital scene. I loved how they showed how easily people can fall into a mob mentality . It was a great series of events. So much chaos and moving parts that all came together with a violent mob and an *innocent man jumping to his death rather than be torn apart by crazed people.

I also loved how it ended. LOVED IT. I dont know about anyone else but I was rooting for michael. Its a horror movie, you want to see the bad guy do his thing and he delivered.

I was blown away by how good this way , especially after how bad 2018 was, and watching a couple other stinkers the other day i expected this to be pretty bad as well.

10 out of 10 for me. I hope the next one ramps it up even more.

[Law212]

Originally Posted by flash.over

Kills is fast-paced, but it feels way more consistent and does a much better job of making one/two-scene characters likable before they’re inevitably killed, the humor is way more appropriately timed, the kills themselves are much better, the cinematography is leagues above 2018 (though not without flaws), and the movie itself is way more emotional. I don’t get the complaints that it has “no plot;” it has a lot of plot, it just doesn’t push the “Laurie vs Michael” narrative forward. The dialogue is definitely worse, though. I’ll give 2018 that much haha

HKills was fast paced , and I agree it did a great job making characters that are expendable , fun to watch for the short time they exist and i enjoyed all of them.

I was very happy that Laurie and her family were sidelined for much of the movie as they arent very interesting. I was glad though that the grand daughter and her BF teamed up because i thought it was stupid that she was mad and ran off because he kissed the hot tiger girl , then got mad at her guy friend for hitting on her just to have her run off showing shes a strong woman who dont need no man.....

I'm glad the movie establishes that micheal isnt after laurie. I also liked Lauries talk with the cop about how the more he kills the more he transcends. It feels to me like they are going towards the "thorn" type of storyline where micheal is possessed or whatever it was.

The guy in the black hat and trench coat reminds me of the guy from part 6 with the thorn tattoo who controlled michael.

The cinematography was top notch, the music was fantastic and you are right, there is a lot of plot in this movie, and done in a way where they can put in plot without having to slow down the film for needless exposition to beat us over the head with "THIS IS WHAT IS GOING ON NOW IN CASE YOU DIDNT GET IT"

[RogerDodger_79]

I just finished watching Halloween Kills about 5 minutes ago.
After watching Halloween 2018 a few days ago , and not liking it much. It had a lot wrong with it and was pretty darned boring all the way to the end.

I loved this one. Loved it. I'm so glad Laurie was sidelined first of all.
The flashback with the cops in myers house and Loomis , showing how Myers got caught, was fantastic . One issue I had with the first movie was i felt that myers should have gotten away becasue having him caught and in a prison for years made him too human ... well they way they did this scene showing him surrounded by cops out side his home was awesome. It was an awesome scene and with how good it was when the title came up and the music started, I was so ready for this.

But hey to each their own everybody has an opinion and likes other things!
If I recall this movie was pushed back from release a few times and during the original screening it did not get favorable reviews.
Thinking wow, maybe this wont suck.

And it didnt. I loved that they brought back characters from the first movie . That was a great idea.

I liked the new characters, a lot more than I liked Laurie and her family.

I liked that they established that Myers is not after Laurie.

The kills were amazing. I really enjoyed the amount of blood and gore , the atmosphere for this movie was a lot darker in tone.

The scene where he gets out of the burning house .... awesome.

The music in this movie was top notch.

I loved the hospital scene. I loved how they showed how easily people can fall into a mob mentality . It was a great series of events. So much chaos and moving parts that all came together with a violent mob and an *innocent man jumping to his death rather than be torn apart by crazed people.

I also loved how it ended. LOVED IT. I dont know about anyone else but I was rooting for michael. Its a horror movie, you want to see the bad guy do his thing and he delivered.

I was blown away by how good this way , especially after how bad 2018 was, and watching a couple other stinkers the other day i expected this to be pretty bad as well.

10 out of 10 for me. I hope the next one ramps it up even more.

Really?
I felt the one before this did some justice with Michael, this one sure the kills are cool but it does not feel like how Michael would kill but something Jason Voorhees would do. Even the 70s flashback at the beginning they screwed up by making him much more aggressive and stronger like even though its suppose to take place shortly after the end of the original 70's one, would not be surprised they bring in Thorn for the next one at this point..

[hungrywives]

Originally Posted by ryanmj1993

So does anybody know yet what big of a difference the extended cut will be. I know there were a few things cut and trimmed down. Really hoping it’s the cut that they showed to test audiences

I don't know if they be in the extended cut or just presented as separate deleted scenes but according to the latest Thing With Two Heads podcast we should see

[Show spoiler]more of the mob beat down at the end and Nick Castle's cameo which was cut, they still used his breathing which is why I assume he's still credited.

Halloween Kills Review and Discussion - The Thing With Two Heads Episode 37 - Horror Talk Myers Mask - YouTube

[Law212]

The more he kills the stronger he gets. I loved how fast he attacked some people. They didnt mess up at all making him aggressive.

As much as i loved the original 2 movies and i even liked 4 ,5 and 6, and H20, I love this new take (minus the lame 2018 movie).

I felt like this is how you do a modern take on a slasher icon . Michael definitely isnt a normal man and that was established really well in this one.

[RogerDodger_79]

Originally Posted by Law212

The more he kills the stronger he gets. I loved how fast he attacked some people. They didnt mess up at all making him aggressive.

As much as i loved the original 2 movies and i even liked 4 ,5 and 6, and H20, I love this new take (minus the lame 2018 movie).

I felt like this is how you do a modern take on a slasher icon . Michael definitely isnt a normal man and that was established really well in this one.

That is a lazy theory but at least you gave one for Michael's unkillability LOL. I think it's because his parents went cheap with the mask they bought it for him when he was a kid at a dollar store and wanted something better LOL. Maybe the kids were calling him Michael Bolton?

[Law212]

Originally Posted by RogerDodger_79

That is a lazy theory but at least you gave one for Michael's unkillability LOL. I think it's because his parents went cheap with the mask they bought it for him when he was a kid at a dollar store and wanted something better LOL. Maybe the kids were calling him Michael Bolton?

Well its based on lines from the movie itself.

Michael bolton? dollar store? what are you going on about?

[Law212]

The only thing this movie was missing... Naked women.

[RogerDodger_79]

Originally Posted by Law212

Well its based on lines from the movie itself.

Michael bolton? dollar store? what are you going on about?

I saw a Michael Bolton CD at a dollar store, hoodie and the blowfish too cause that's cheaper than blank tapes Roar.

Really I thought you guys would get the Hoodie And The Blowfish part.

[Chie Satonaka]

Originally Posted by hungrywives

I don't know if they be in the extended cut or just presented as separate deleted scenes but according to the latest Thing With Two Heads podcast we should see

[Show spoiler]more of the mob beat down at the end and Nick Castle's cameo which was cut, they still used his breathing which is why I assume he's still credited.

Halloween Kills Review and Discussion - The Thing With Two Heads Episode 37 - Horror Talk Myers Mask - YouTube

Id be cool if they could seemlessly branch all that stuff in or just make it the default, those things sound good in my book. Sad they had to cut Nick Castles's scene.

[RogerDodger_79]

Originally Posted by Chie Satonaka

Id be cool if they could seemlessly branch all that stuff in or just make it the default, those things sound good in my book. Sad they had to cut Nick Castles's scene.

With Halloween Kills they need to cut more stuff out not add more. It's weird with this one there is things that are cool but at the same time it does not feel like a Halloween movie anybody else get what I'm saying?

NO TPS Reports needed

[Law212]

Originally Posted by RogerDodger_79

I saw a Michael Bolton CD at a dollar store, hoodie and the blowfish too cause that's cheaper than blank tapes Roar.

Really I thought you guys would get the Hoodie And The Blowfish part.

I really have no clue what you are ever talking about. Lets just not interact anymore . Thanks.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Law212

I just finished watching Halloween Kills about 5 minutes ago.
After watching Halloween 2018 a few days ago , and not liking it much. It had a lot wrong with it and was pretty darned boring all the way to the end.

I loved this one. Loved it. I'm so glad Laurie was sidelined first of all.
The flashback with the cops in myers house and Loomis , showing how Myers got caught, was fantastic . One issue I had with the first movie was i felt that myers should have gotten away becasue having him caught and in a prison for years made him too human ... well they way they did this scene showing him surrounded by cops out side his home was awesome. It was an awesome scene and with how good it was when the title came up and the music started, I was so ready for this.

Thinking wow, maybe this wont suck.

And it didnt. I loved that they brought back characters from the first movie . That was a great idea.

I liked the new characters, a lot more than I liked Laurie and her family.

I liked that they established that Myers is not after Laurie.

The kills were amazing. I really enjoyed the amount of blood and gore , the atmosphere for this movie was a lot darker in tone.

The scene where he gets out of the burning house .... awesome.

The music in this movie was top notch.

I loved the hospital scene. I loved how they showed how easily people can fall into a mob mentality . It was a great series of events. So much chaos and moving parts that all came together with a violent mob and an *innocent man jumping to his death rather than be torn apart by crazed people.

I also loved how it ended. LOVED IT. I dont know about anyone else but I was rooting for michael. Its a horror movie, you want to see the bad guy do his thing and he delivered.

I was blown away by how good this way , especially after how bad 2018 was, and watching a couple other stinkers the other day i expected this to be pretty bad as well.

10 out of 10 for me. I hope the next one ramps it up even more.

I know, opinions and all, but 10/10 is pretty laughable for this film. So according to your post this is the epitome of grade-A filmmaking with zero flaws?

I bolded the part of your post that highlights one of the biggest issues with this film (I didn't care for the last one much either):

- In the original films (Halloween, II, 4, and even 5), you rooted for the protagonists. Dr. Loomis, Laurie and her friends, Lindsey, Tommy, the hospital staff, Jamie, Rachel - you were rooting for them to survive. And in all of them, the kills were on the tamer side (Halloween II and IV got a bit more graphic but they were PG material compared to what's in this film).

- In the new films, they've turned this series into a Friday the 13th clone, which is ironic, considering Friday the 13th was created to cash in on the success of Halloween. You said it yourself - you were rooting for Michael Myers in this one - the polar opposite of the intended effect in the original films. Now the characters are annoying and you're just hoping Michael bumps them off. They've turned Michael into Jason Voorhees. And this film is a lot more graphic - on the level of the Rob Zombie remakes (which I do enjoy as they were a totally different take on the story so should be judged separately). This film is supposed to be directly connected to the first film and '18, but it feels nothing like the original, other than the flashback scenes. For all the heat Rob Zombie's versions took for the graphic violence, this film (and the previous one) is just as graphic.

I just watched the original 1-5 this weekend, and I'll take those over this new trilogy, despite the faults those sequels have as well. At least they were fun to watch and had some good suspense. The scene with Jamie trapped in the chute in part 5 and the rooftop scene in part 4 tops anything in this film in terms of suspense imo. This film just didn't have any decent suspense. I didn't totally hate it but both of these films have been a disappointment to me.