Turbine Collector Series 3D Blu-ray releases and wish list - LINKS IN FIRST POST

[WaverBoy]

Originally Posted by Brandon K

Well with any 3D movies, it used to be I wouldn't buy the 2D because I knew it would likely be included. The Japan Marvel releases all included the 2D so knowing those were coming, I didn't buy them otherwise. And same for all 3 RSM releases that are Turbine's first wave, I hadn't bought any of those movies before then, and I liked that they included the 2D:

If you make your own digital copies, watching a movie on the go (again assuming you prefer the original 2D and not just one eye of the 3D) is another use case for the 2D version.

I think we have a good but still pretty small sample size here of 3D buyers, I think there's probably a sufficient number of people who would be interested in having the 2D version included for various different reasons, perhaps dependent on the particular movie as well.

If Turbine is able to catch up any older releases for us, then yeah, I'll probably have the 2D already, but for any newer releases, it's likely I won't have bought them yet. So now I have to buy two copies at normal/premium prices if I want the 2D (and usually I do want it for my collection), instead of buying just one copy with a slight premium, as RSM did it.

I still say it’s a waste of money for Turbine to include 2-D discs, for reasons already stated, and they agree. It wouldn’t be worth the cost. 2-D versions are already available, cheap. These releases are targeted at 3-D fans who have no use for a 2-D copy of a 3-D film. If I was gonna watch a film on the go, it wouldn’t be a 3-D film. I don’t watch 3-D films in 2-D, period.

[Brandon K]

Originally Posted by WaverBoy

If I was gonna watch a film on the go, it wouldn’t be a 3-D film. I don’t watch 3-D films in 2-D, period.

That's fair. Some people don't watch a film with 3D availability in 2D, others do, there's nothing wrong either way. That's personal choice and opinion.

Originally Posted by WaverBoy

These releases are targeted at 3-D fans who have no use for a 2-D copy of a 3-D film.

Well they are targeted at 3D fans lol, that's a limited audience already. I get what you're saying, I just don't think they're deliberately targeting people who only like 3D and not 2D. They're not deliberately not trying to target people who also like 2D lol. The audience is all 3D fans.

Originally Posted by WaverBoy

I still say it’s a waste of money for Turbine to include 2-D discs, for reasons already stated, and they agree. It wouldn’t be worth the cost. 2-D versions are already available, cheap.

Well, new or relatively new releases aren't cheap for consumers, maybe depending on country and retailer (Canada's really not great), on the other hand, BD-50's are relatively cheap to replicate/press, depending on the quantity they're doing.

Clearly RSM thought there was value to including the 2D. And before anyone says it lol, yes they went out of business, but 3D was only a small part of their overall business, including 2D discs in their 3D releases didn't end things for them lol

Just trying to give it a fair hearing. Turbine aren't doing it, okay, that's fine. Some people will agree with the decision, others won't. I won't not buy their releases because of it. If it helps their bottom line and as a result it helps them do more 3D, great.

I'm looking forward to supporting their releases when they have unreleased 3D, I just really hope that if they're able to get titles such as No Time To Die or Mission Impossible Fallout, that they look carefully at how much audio they're including and even consider making them 2 discs. These are long movies that deserve a full disc in 2D, never mind 3D, and including both English and German in high quality audio plus including a bunch of other languages reduces the space available for video.

[WaverBoy]

Originally Posted by Brandon K

Well they are targeted at 3D fans lol, that's a limited audience already. I get what you're saying, I just don't think they're deliberately targeting people who only like 3D and not 2D. They're not deliberately not trying to target people who also like 2D lol. The audience is all 3D fans.

What I obviously meant was, if they were targeting people who wanted 2-D versions of 3-D films in addition to the 3-D version, they would have included a 2-D disc. They aren’t. They’re targeting 3-D fans who couldn’t care less about 2-D versions of 3-D films. The cost of adding a 2-D disc adds up, and isn’t worth it. I’m glad they’re saving money they can put towards licensing other 3-D films.

[xootoo]

Originally Posted by WaverBoy

What I obviously meant was, if they were targeting people who wanted 2-D versions of 3-D films in addition to the 3-D version, they would have included a 2-D disc. They aren’t. They’re targeting 3-D fans who couldn’t care less about 2-D versions of 3-D films. The cost of adding a 2-D disc adds up, and isn’t worth it. I’m glad they’re saving money they can put towards licensing other 3-D films.

Everyone who wants the flat movie or/and the extras of the 2D disc can buy this discs (very) cheap in a discount or a used copy on ebay years after the initial release. Furthermore, the 3D edition does not compete with the distribution of the 2D editions, which could bother rights holders.

[cdx47]

Originally Posted by WaverBoy

I still say it’s a waste of money for Turbine to include 2-D discs, for reasons already stated, and they agree. It wouldn’t be worth the cost. 2-D versions are already available, cheap. These releases are targeted at 3-D fans who have no use for a 2-D copy of a 3-D film. If I was gonna watch a film on the go, it wouldn’t be a 3-D film. I don’t watch 3-D films in 2-D, period.

I mostly agree coz I tend to sell/throw away the 2D disc unless it has 3D audio which I then mux with the 3D disc. Which is why for Dominion it would have been nice to include the 2D disc exactly because it contains the DTS:x audio. I found a cheap used copy but it would have been nice if for 2 dollars more they could have supplied the 2D disc.

[Tullebob]

I agree with Brandon K - Turbine should consider 2 BD-50 discs for 3D features with long runtimes.

1080p with maxed out bitrates can look truly amazing on a good display/projector. The prime example of a feature in dire need of a 2 disc release was Avangers Endgame. The film had really good 3D, but was overcompressed in the 3d Bluray release. Turbine should follow the example Cameron has set with Avatar 2 and Titanic 3D releases!

The Turbine releases will be geared to the 3D collector/nerd market, many of which are likely also home cinema nerds that appreciate high bitrates to go along with their 3D and are willing to put up some extra EUR for added sweetness

[xootoo]

Turbine know exactly what they do. Their physical media releases are the gold standard in picture & sound quality. A lot of studios could learn from them! I'm 100% sure they will make a 2 disc solution of long 3D movies before putting all on one disc with compression artifacts issues like seen before on some streaming services. I also think when it comes to long runtime live action movies it will be necessary to have 2 discs if the Atmos and all the extra languages for maximized market distribution chances should be on board.

But again, we are truly in best hands!

[the13thman]

Personally I find it very annoying having to switch discs halfway through a film but there aren't any excessively long ones on the unreleased list anyway so I don't think it's going to be an issue.

[grazina31]

Originally Posted by xootoo

Everyone who wants the flat movie or/and the extras of the 2D disc can buy this discs (very) cheap in a discount or a used copy on ebay years after the initial release. Furthermore, the 3D edition does not compete with the distribution of the 2D editions, which could bother rights holders.

Never though of this. You are absolutely right, specially if they want to be able to include other languages other than german and english.

Originally Posted by cdx47

I mostly agree coz I tend to sell/throw away the 2D disc unless it has 3D audio which I then mux with the 3D disc. Which is why for Dominion it would have been nice to include the 2D disc exactly because it contains the DTS:x audio. I found a cheap used copy but it would have been nice if for 2 dollars more they could have supplied the 2D disc.

I actually got the 4K edition of JW: Dominion brand new for 6.94€, with free shipping from Amazon spain and it arrived the same day my Turbine edition.

Originally Posted by the13thman

Personally I find it very annoying having to switch discs halfway through a film but there aren't any excessively long ones on the unreleased list anyway so I don't think it's going to be an issue.

No Time To Die is one minute shorter than Avatar and 18 minutes shorter than Avengers: Endgame, and both those movies were released in a single 3D disc.
If anything, with No Time To Die, we won't get a full atmos track, but after the stellar audio presentation of JW: Dominion, I'm not to worried about that.
Cannot think of any other possible 3D movie that is longer than this one and hasn't been released yet.

[Tullebob]

Another request from my side would be EDGE OF TOMORROW with maxed out bitrates and Atmos! This film is loved by many and the 3D is really great. The Warner disc, however, sucks as it has only filled up just north of 30 GB of the 50 GB disc, and the image suffers as a result. With maxed out bitrates, the image would be amazing !

[martinstraka8282]

I'm really looking forward to some new live action 3D films.

I really wanted to support these releases, and animated films are usually great for 3D, but I'm not going to re-buy movies for slightly better quality that I only watch with my son rarely. Might pick up JW when I have more reason to place an order.

With Disney's content going downhill (imo), I haven't bought the last few they've put out, so I feel starved for Live Action 3D. No Time to Die would be awesome.

[Chedwiggen]

These releases should be available for at least a few months right? Or are they limited?

[Jay G.]

Originally Posted by Chedwiggen

These releases should be available for at least a few months right? Or are they limited?

My understanding is that they're not a "limited edition," in that they're not printing only a fixed number of them. So they should be available for at least a few months, although they may run out of stock from time to time. A previous post mentioned they're already pressing another run of Jurassic World: Dominion discs because the first run sold out.

Of course, eventually, every release goes out of print, but I'm guessing they have the 3D rights for these titles for a few years probably.


Edit: looking at the shop, both the "Jurassic World: Dominion" standalone release and 3-movie set say they'll be "released" on June 19. The standalone releases of Minions: The Rise of Gru and The Bad Guys are still available:

https://turbine-shop.de/Jurassic-Wor...ies-01/6961243
https://turbine-shop.de/en/3D-Turbin...r-Gang/6961273

[cdth]

Originally Posted by DarthLaser

The disc is packed to the teeth. DTS:X or TrueHD take up too much bandwith and would not have fit this 3D disc without sacrificing video quality. The Atmos mix is still the original mix by Universal used in theatres. We encoded it in DD+ for the project - this has nothing to do with what streaming services do. We wanted to have the Atmos mix on the disc and found a way to make it work. Whenever a TrueHD Atmos fits a project we'll make use of that.

Sorry for bringing this up in the JW thread.
Would Turbine consider making a try for the 3D version of Jaws (1975)?

[the13thman]

Originally Posted by cdth

Would Turbine consider making a try for the 3D version of Jaws (1975)?

If Turbine could get the 3D version of Jaws that would be another guaranteed seller.

Even the poorly regarded conversions of the last few Fast and Furious films would be top sellers.

Universal just need to be persuaded...

[randomfellow]

Originally Posted by the13thman

Universal just need to be persuaded...

Unfortunately in the case of Jaws, Universal is the distributor but Steven Spielberg controls the title 100%. At this point a home video release doesn't appear to be in his plans for the 3D version.

We can certainly hope he's agreeable to it at some point and there's always the chance that Apple will strike a deal for the AVP (which certainly wouldn't help me any).

[WaverBoy]

I don’t know about you guys but I’m chomping at the bit for the next Turbine 3-D release announcement…

[petergee]

Originally Posted by WaverBoy

I don’t know about you guys but I’m chomping at the bit for the next Turbine 3-D release announcement…

Yes indeed! Hopefully the next batch will be titles previously unreleased by RSM. Can’t wait.

[emailking]

I will buy if it is unreleased 3D, no matter what it is.

[Brandon K]

Originally Posted by emailking

I will buy if it is unreleased 3D, no matter what it is.

"Watching Paint Dry 3D"