Aliens 4K UHD (1986)

[Melton]

Originally Posted by Zechs Merquise

No, I'm sorry. Predator 2 really did need Arnie. It was a thoroughly mediocre film that didn't have at least Ahnold's charisma to carry it. Danny Glover could only do so much, and he was basically Murtaugh without Riggs or the moustache in it anyway.

Apparently Arnold was supposed to be the Gary Busey character. But then he decided to do T2 instead and the rest is history. Now, T2, that's a really good sequel

No way, Glover owns, and he’s wayyy different to Murtaugh. Harrigan is a renegade hot-head who plays by his own rules, recklessly blasting fools with a shotgun and constantly getting punished for insubordination! He’s closer to Riggs than Murtagh.

Pred 2 is a superb sequel from the original writers, and wipes the floor with all the other fake Predator sequels (although I have a soft spot for Predators)

[Member-222782]

Predator 2 is the Alien 3 of the franchise. It feels oddly detached but it's still a good film that gets better as it rolls along. Personally, I always liked the setting, particularly the chaotic opening in downtown LA during a heatwave. Those neighborhoods still look that way today for the most part. Sooner or later the developers will take over, as they've done to NY and many other major metro areas.

[jeff BD]

Originally Posted by soaptrail

Agreed, i enjoyed Alien 3, although i have not watched in over a decade and will easily watch it over Alien 4 any day. But it is true it does not fit into the Alien universe. It is as other suggested a dream or more like an episode of What If...?. I remember David Fincher saying due to the story they felt killing off the other characters was the best way to go forward with the story and I agree.

I first say Alien 3 at the theater when i was 15 and snuck in, got caught, had to watch Encino Man isstead and once that was done snuck into the next showing.

One of the most hated sequel decisions of all time and a slap in the face to audiences and JC frankly.

[Mister C]

I like Predator 2 for what it is. A fun little action movie. It doesn't hit the highs of the first movie but there's a lot of solid Predator action and some entertaining performances.

Alien 3 never grew on me the way it has on a lot of people. I mostly enjoy Fincher but Alien 3 remains a dud in my book.

Extraordinarily happy that both of these are getting solo releases because I don't want to own the others in the franchise. Even at $5.99 Alien Covenant wasn't worth it. Really hope there's a steelbook.

[R0CK0X]

Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

Does anyone prefer one cut of Aliens to another? I personally like the longer cut, as I like seeing the colony stuff. I don't necessarily need the gun stuff later on though.

I prefer the longer cut. But I'd love it if they also released the censored CBS TV cut for funsies.

[TWIN-FR]

I've been watching the alternate cuts of the whole 4 movies for years now, basically since they were made available on DVD.

Last time I watched the tetralogy I went back to the TCs.... and felt a void!
Really like the SEs of all four.

[soaptrail]

Originally Posted by jeff BD

One of the most hated sequel decisions of all time and a slap in the face to audiences and JC frankly.

I still will take Alien 3 over Alien Resurrection any day. I checked Rotten Tomatoes to see if I am in the majority and, it is a toss up:

Alien 3 has critic score of 47% and audience score of 47%
Alien 4 has critic score of 53% and audience score of 39%

I was a teenager when Alien 3 came out and it appealed to my grunge personality, LOL.

[jeff BD]

Originally Posted by soaptrail

I still will take Alien 3 over Alien Resurrection any day. I checked Rotten Tomatoes to see if I am in the majority and, it is a toss up:

Alien 3 has critic score of 47% and audience score of 47%
Alien 4 has critic score of 53% and audience score of 39%

I was a teenager when Alien 3 came out and it appealed to my grunge personality, LOL.

Resurrection has a couple really nice set pieces but thats about it.

[Snikt]

Originally Posted by jeff BD

Resurrection has a couple really nice set pieces but thats about it.

I enjoyed Ron Perlman in it. Always a pleasure seeing him pop up in movies.

[jeff BD]

Originally Posted by Snikt

I enjoyed Ron Perlman in it. Always a pleasure seeing him pop up in movies.

Agreed. He classes up any role even when hes playing a scumbag

[aviosis]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

So now Aliens has been thrown into the mix of James Cameron films that will receive a bunch of premature threads on here that will either be deleted or sent to the wishlist?

Lol only if we suddenly get buzz about an incoming T2 4K remaster; that's when I'll realize this was all just fake news

[Zechs Merquise]

Originally Posted by Melton

No way, Glover owns, and he’s wayyy different to Murtaugh. Harrigan is a renegade hot-head who plays by his own rules, recklessly blasting fools with a shotgun and constantly getting punished for insubordination! He’s closer to Riggs than Murtagh.

Except that he plays him exactly like Murtagh. Without the moustache. That's his energy. If Glover had said 'I'm gettin' too old for this shit' at any point during Predator 2 it wouldn't have felt the least bit out of place.

I suppose that was sort of the appeal, that Glover wasn't a muscular he-man like Arnold, he was just a regular, old, somewhat out of shape, LAPD officer, going up against a great big beast who's in peak physical form and has a lot of high tech weaponry. The potential for great suspense and drama was there but, for me, the execution just wasn't there

Originally Posted by Melton

Pred 2 is a superb sequel from the original writers

That's...certainly a take

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Predator 2 is the Alien 3 of the franchise. It feels oddly detached but it's still a good film that gets better as it rolls along. Personally, I always liked the setting, particularly the chaotic opening in downtown LA during a heatwave. Those neighborhoods still look that way today for the most part. Sooner or later the developers will take over, as they've done to NY and many other major metro areas.

I'm not sure about the setting personally. Again, the potential for drama was a lot bigger than what was actually delivered. Because in a city, the characters have a lot more tools at their disposal to use against the predator than they would in a jungle, where the Arnold character can only fashion makeshift traps. But again, aside from the scene in the slaughterhouse, the potential wasn't really utilised.

The best I can say about Predator 2 is that it should have been a lot better than it was. It needed Arnold, but he did Terminator 2 instead. It needed John McTiernan, but he did Hunt For Red October instead. Could've had both of them but the studio was just too cheap to pay for either of them, and look at the result. Both of them went and made classic cinema instead, and the studio was left with a fairly mediocre, fairly forgettable sequel

[DR Herbert West]

Love Predator 2.

[Damonstein]

Alien 3 has grown on me a lot. I really enjoy its setting and tone. I also hated resurrection less the last time I saw it.

[Trekkie313]

Insane calling Predator 2 a bad film. This thread is all over the place.

[drb999]

I love Predator 2 and despite being a huge fan of Arnold S. I didn’t miss him at all in the movie.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

Everybody simmer down, we've lost too many members as is recently.

Yup. Sadly nobody knows how to be civil anymore.

[stvn1974]

Alien theatrical
Aliens special edition

The rest can die in a fire.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Disnee’s authoring house is one of the best in the business, so I’d almost like to see them attempt to put nearly five hours of 4K video onto a single UHD. A UHD66 would be too little space even for them, true, but a UHD100? Hmm. With minimal audio tracks it might just work, they’d have about 45 Mb/s to play with in total.

Branching would of coursh be preferable and should be the way to go. Disnee aren’t allergic to it like Warners are, they just don’t have a lot of alternate cuts bouncing around for whatever movies so don’t often have a reason to use it (though the Star Wars UHDs have different language crawls and clean subtitles shots that play when you select a foreign language, and didn’t the Blu of Beauty and the Beast have different versions on it?).

I've never gotten over my branching fears from DVDs and even some blu-rays that used to trigger stutters at the branching points on my players. I know it's supposed to have improved but honestly I'd rather just have two discs, one for each version. Shout for example, I'm actually happy they never attempt to do branching. Considering they can't even get audio right consistently, can you imagine Shout trying to handle branching?

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by JRcanReid

I enjoy the Hadley's Hope stuff and the extra firepower stuff as curiosities/deleted scenes but the movie flows soooooo much better without them. The theatrical cut of Aliens is nearly perfect from an editing and pacing standpoint.

I hear people mention flow a lot with the SE but I've never had an issue with pacing with the SE. I think it adds some important stuff.

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

The only unnecessary scene in the SE is Newts parents.

Even that I enjoy. It's eerie as hell and links nicely to the original with the vision of the derelict. I never got the hate for that scene. Seeing her with her family, so normal just hours earlier, makes the shock even more hard-hitting when you see her not that long afterwards.