Sony "Mastered in 4K" Blu-ray Titles May 14 and July 16

[42041]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

35mm film stock and cameras are not all the same...

That's not really true. If they had the budget to shoot 35mm, the camera equipment would be the same sort of stuff, and "low budget film stock" is pretty much a myth. Take an 80s movie of any budget, odds are it was shot on Kodak 5247 (exclusively, until 1983-ish) which is a perfectly 4k-worthy film stock and whatever revision of their high-speed negative Kodak was selling at the time. A low budget film might be shot quicker and dirtier, perhaps they don't have the lighting rig to pull a deep enough stop in some low-light situations or whatever, but that's really the only case where budget would prevent you from capturing a high-resolution image. If you have a decent lens and the detail to be captured is in focus, resolution is something that just happens.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Well, sure and this usually means grainier footage, but the resolution should still be the same. 35mm is 35mm.

Resolution, as in you can get 6kish out of it sure. but not resolved fine detail

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Resolution, as in you can get 6kish out of it sure. but not resolved fine detail

Exactly, you can get the resolution but not the fine detail usually associated with the said resolution...

[Geoff D]

Sorry to interrupt, but I watched Spider-Man 2 earlier. Thoroughly enjoyed it as always, and here's my $0.02 about the new transfer.

The image has been reframed, shifting it up and to the right. It does eke out more fine detail than the older transfer, with very sharply resolved grain, and like the other film-based M4K titles it lacks the minute touch of sharpening applied to the old one. Huzzah!

As is common with new transfers these days, the gamma has been lowered (what people perceive to be raised contrast). This means that the brightness rolls off in a smoother and more naturalistic way, instead of a hard, contrasty break between highlights and mid tones that screams "video!".

The side effect is that the image itself appears to be slightly brighter, so said highlights can bloom a little and lose a tiny bit of detail here and there, though there are other, more artistic implications. The wedding scene where JJJ's boy is stood up at the altar now has a blown-out, almost dreamlike quality (which ties in visually to the deliberately overcooked shots of MJ's mad dash to Pete's apartment), whereas the scene looked much flatter on the old release.

The old Spidey 2 transfer had dull, magenta-tinged colour which has been changed to a more neutral looking palette, and everything seems to have a bit more vitality. The green trees outside of the church at the start of the wedding chapter really pop, and there's a proper flush of colour to people's faces. Skin tones were muddy and lacked delineation on the old one, but now I can see variations in shade and tone, so much so I can clearly pick out where the makeup starts and finishes on certain actors.

There's no compression problems, natch, and the various fades throughout the show are handled impeccably.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Sorry to interrupt, but I watched Spider-Man 2 earlier. Thoroughly enjoyed it as always, and here's my $0.02 about the new transfer.

The image has been reframed, shifting it up and to the right. It does eke out more fine detail than the older transfer, with very sharply resolved grain, and like the other film-based M4K titles it lacks the minute touch of sharpening applied to the old one. Huzzah!

As is common with new transfers these days, the gamma has been lowered (what people perceive to be raised contrast). This means that the brightness rolls off in a smoother and more naturalistic way, instead of a hard, contrasty break between highlights and mid tones that screams "video!".

The side effect is that the image itself appears to be slightly brighter, so said highlights can bloom a little and lose a tiny bit of detail here and there, though there are other, more artistic implications. The wedding scene where JJJ's boy is stood up at the altar now has a blown-out, almost dreamlike quality (which ties in visually to the deliberately overcooked shots of MJ's mad dash to Pete's apartment), whereas the scene looked much flatter on the old release.

The old Spidey 2 transfer had dull, magenta-tinged colour which has been changed to a more neutral looking palette, and everything seems to have a bit more vitality. The green trees outside of the church at the start of the wedding chapter really pop, and there's a proper flush of colour to people's faces. Skin tones were muddy and lacked delineation on the old one, but now I can see variations in shade and tone, so much so I can clearly pick out where the makeup starts and finishes on certain actors.

There's no compression problems, natch, and the various fades throughout the show are handled impeccably.

Great stuff, ordered now glad the 90's pink has gone

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Sorry to interrupt, but I watched Spider-Man 2 earlier. Thoroughly enjoyed it as always, and here's my $0.02 about the new transfer.

The image has been reframed, shifting it up and to the right. It does eke out more fine detail than the older transfer, with very sharply resolved grain, and like the other film-based M4K titles it lacks the minute touch of sharpening applied to the old one. Huzzah!

As is common with new transfers these days, the gamma has been lowered (what people perceive to be raised contrast). This means that the brightness rolls off in a smoother and more naturalistic way, instead of a hard, contrasty break between highlights and mid tones that screams "video!".

The side effect is that the image itself appears to be slightly brighter, so said highlights can bloom a little and lose a tiny bit of detail here and there, though there are other, more artistic implications. The wedding scene where JJJ's boy is stood up at the altar now has a blown-out, almost dreamlike quality (which ties in visually to the deliberately overcooked shots of MJ's mad dash to Pete's apartment), whereas the scene looked much flatter on the old release.

The old Spidey 2 transfer had dull, magenta-tinged colour which has been changed to a more neutral looking palette, and everything seems to have a bit more vitality. The green trees outside of the church at the start of the wedding chapter really pop, and there's a proper flush of colour to people's faces. Skin tones were muddy and lacked delineation on the old one, but now I can see variations in shade and tone, so much so I can clearly pick out where the makeup starts and finishes on certain actors.

There's no compression problems, natch, and the various fades throughout the show are handled impeccably.

Very nice review. I plan on picking this up along with the first movie here at some point.

[Infernal King]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Sorry to interrupt, but I watched Spider-Man 2 earlier. Thoroughly enjoyed it as always, and here's my $0.02 about the new transfer.

[Show spoiler]

The image has been reframed, shifting it up and to the right. It does eke out more fine detail than the older transfer, with very sharply resolved grain, and like the other film-based M4K titles it lacks the minute touch of sharpening applied to the old one. Huzzah!

As is common with new transfers these days, the gamma has been lowered (what people perceive to be raised contrast). This means that the brightness rolls off in a smoother and more naturalistic way, instead of a hard, contrasty break between highlights and mid tones that screams "video!".

The side effect is that the image itself appears to be slightly brighter, so said highlights can bloom a little and lose a tiny bit of detail here and there, though there are other, more artistic implications. The wedding scene where JJJ's boy is stood up at the altar now has a blown-out, almost dreamlike quality (which ties in visually to the deliberately overcooked shots of MJ's mad dash to Pete's apartment), whereas the scene looked much flatter on the old release.

The old Spidey 2 transfer had dull, magenta-tinged colour which has been changed to a more neutral looking palette, and everything seems to have a bit more vitality. The green trees outside of the church at the start of the wedding chapter really pop, and there's a proper flush of colour to people's faces. Skin tones were muddy and lacked delineation on the old one, but now I can see variations in shade and tone, so much so I can clearly pick out where the makeup starts and finishes on certain actors.

There's no compression problems, natch, and the various fades throughout the show are handled impeccably.

I can't wait for my order to arrive tomorrow! Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[truelies]

For more than 80", 4k will see different. Otherwise not necessary.


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[Funcha]

Does spider-man 2 have the 2.1 version?

[Sky_Captain]

No, thankfully.

[RyanPom]

No, there's no extras at all. No 2.1 version either.

[wesslan]

Probably old news here but Pineapple Express loses the extra minutes that was on the old disc Would be interesting to know why Sony is doing this to all movies. The discs aren't even full so what is the problem?

"Just as they did with Angels and Demons, Total Recall and Spider-Man 2, Sony will release Pineapple Express only with its theatrical version within the "Mastered in 4K" Blu-ray series. The extended cut of the movie, featuring approx. 5 minutes of additional footage, is not included."

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by wesslan

Probably old news here but Pineapple Express loses the extra minutes that was on the old disc Would be interesting to know why Sony is doing this to all movies. The discs aren't even full so what is the problem?

"Just as they did with Angels and Demons, Total Recall and Spider-Man 2, Sony will release Pineapple Express only with its theatrical version within the "Mastered in 4K" Blu-ray series. The extended cut of the movie, featuring approx. 5 minutes of additional footage, is not included."

At least there is no extended/director's cut for Ghostbusters, Spider-man, Glory, and Men in Black.

[Funcha]

Wonder what Sony's rationale is for not including extended versions of any of its films on their mastered in 4K line. Need to ensure there's at list 5 gigs free on te disk?

[Funcha]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

No, thankfully.

Yes, thank god this is barebones. Nobody wants extended cuts or extras anyway. Thumbs up. Way up!

[Dragun]

Originally Posted by Funcha

Wonder what Sony's rationale is for not including extended versions of any of its films on their mastered in 4K line. Need to ensure there's at list 5 gigs free on te disk?

Maybe they only finished the theatrical versions at 4K, and the extended cuts were finished at 1080p or 2K.

[Cabby]

So, I was thinking of picking up Ghostbusters and the first two Spider-Man movies. Are those improvements? or is it a waste?

[blu-ray_girl_fan]

Originally Posted by Cabby

So, I was thinking of picking up Ghostbusters and the first two Spider-Man movies. Are those improvements? or is it a waste?

These questions have been answered many times over already.

[Cabby]

Originally Posted by blu-ray_girl_fan

These questions have been answered many times over already.

Okay...

[RyanPom]

Ghostbusters is hit or miss.