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[jimidini]

Originally Posted by Havok83

Nintendo does the same exact crap you mention that the industry does. How long have they been previewing Zelda?

Since this year.
They released one single sneak peak trailer that was maybe 1 minute and that was it for ages. That was surely not a preview.

Other companies would have released new trailers every few months for years. Like for example in case of the overhyped (and unfinished) Metal Grind Solid 5, where they basically made trailers out of almost every single cutscene footage there is in the game and they even used audio tapes as well.

Most of their games have a long preview cycle

Citation needed

Pikmin 3DS and Paper Mario already obviously weren't. No leaks.

Star Fox Guard was effectively announced (and that it was available in a bundle with SFZ) a few months before release. No leaks.

Project Zero 5 was announced April 2014, game was released in Japan a few months after that. Western release was announced a year later (April 2015) and you obviously couldn't be sure if there actually would be a western release see PZ4. Game was actually released 6 months after that. No leaks.

I can go on...

likely bc their output isnt that great so they have to keep showing the same things over and over.

And are you freaking kidding? They keep showing the same things over and over? Unless you are going "pure open world gameplay" == showing the same things.

LOL...in this internet world we live in, that would never happen. Every thing leaks.

Can't remember anyone leaking new Paper Mario on Wii U, Pikmin 3DS nor the Yoshi game ported over to 3DS, but whatever.

And yes, exactly - NX hasn't leaked yet. All of the leaks were pure BS. Sure, assuming that it will be cart-based makes sense and it will probably be so, but that's not based on any leak what-so-ever.

In case you of course say every possibility there is and in the end one of those is actually true, then it was still not based on a leak.

Anyway, my point was that it would actually be fun, not that they would do so. If there is a week between announcement and being able to buy it at stores, that would be basically the same. It would also be different and it's already obvious that they won't announce it 1 year in advance, because otherwise they would have shown it at E3.

PS4 Bro got leaked, although you also never know for sure, if it was intentional or not, to figure out the reaction of people. No one surely leaked this because of Sony boxes, that were sent to a store.

The NX is still an unknown with no feedback from the critics and gaming media

And?
Those get more and more irrelevant nowadays, especially for Nintendo. That's why they made Nintendo Directs in the first place. Why waste money on so called "journalists" and "critics", when you can instead put that money into game development and talk directly to your customers?

Gaming media and its so called "critics" is literally a PR company for publishers and games are supposed to get better scores depending on advertising budget for the sites (even giving a shitty game a great score, one of the best the game got, but it not being high enough can get you fired *cough* Gerstmann *cough*) If you still trust those after all the crap they pulled....

But if you really need someone to tell you, that you should buy this or that game or console, then I don't know what to say. If I went like this, I would have never for example bought NieR on PS3. Most so called "critics" "hated" it (probably because the advertising budget was too low or even non existent - and you actually had to play it through - even multiple times, to get the full experience).

Ad budget for the new Zelda (and basically every main Zelda game including Skyward Sword) is very high, so I'm also saying it now that IGN and such sites will give it a 10/10. There is no way around it.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by jimidini

Since this year.
They released one single sneak peak trailer that was maybe 1 minute and that was it for ages. That was surely not a preview.

Other companies would have released new trailers every few months for years. Like for example in case of the overhyped (and unfinished) Metal Grind Solid 5, where they basically made trailers out of almost every single cutscene footage there is in the game and they even used audio tapes as well.



Citation needed

Pikmin 3DS and Paper Mario already obviously weren't. No leaks.

Star Fox Guard was effectively announced (and that it was available in a bundle with SFZ) a few months before release. No leaks.

Project Zero 5 was announced April 2014, game was released in Japan a few months after that. Western release was announced a year later (April 2015) and you obviously couldn't be sure if there actually would be a western release see PZ4. Game was actually released 6 months after that. No leaks.

I can go on...



And are you freaking kidding? They keep showing the same things over and over? Unless you are going "pure open world gameplay" == showing the same things.



Can't remember anyone leaking new Paper Mario on Wii U, Pikmin 3DS nor the Yoshi game ported over to 3DS, but whatever.

And yes, exactly - NX hasn't leaked yet. All of the leaks were pure BS. Sure, assuming that it will be cart-based makes sense and it will probably be so, but that's not based on any leak what-so-ever.

In case you of course say every possibility there is and in the end one of those is actually true, then it was still not based on a leak.

Anyway, my point was that it would actually be fun, not that they would do so. If there is a week between announcement and being able to buy it at stores, that would be basically the same. It would also be different and it's already obvious that they won't announce it 1 year in advance, because otherwise they would have shown it at E3.

PS4 Bro got leaked, although you also never know for sure, if it was intentional or not, to figure out the reaction of people. No one surely leaked this because of Sony boxes, that were sent to a store.



And?
Those get more and more irrelevant nowadays, especially for Nintendo. That's why they made Nintendo Directs in the first place. Why waste money on so called "journalists" and "critics", when you can instead put that money into game development and talk directly to your customers?

Gaming media and its so called "critics" is literally a PR company for publishers and games are supposed to get better scores depending on advertising budget for the sites (even giving a shitty game a great score, one of the best the game got, but it not being high enough can get you fired *cough* Gerstmann *cough*) If you still trust those after all the crap they pulled....

But if you really need someone to tell you, that you should buy this or that game or console, then I don't know what to say. If I went like this, I would have never for example bought NieR on PS3. Most so called "critics" "hated" it (probably because the advertising budget was too low or even non existent - and you actually had to play it through - even multiple times, to get the full experience).

Ad budget for the new Zelda (and basically every main Zelda game including Skyward Sword) is very high, so I'm also saying it now that IGN and such sites will give it a 10/10. There is no way around it.

Because the only people that tune into those are DieHard Nintendo fans. Nintendo is essentially " preaching to the choir" with those directs. How do they ever expect to grow Their audience if all they're doing is trying to cater to the small group that's going to be there regardless? I'm sure those directs make Nintendo fans feel special and all but for the vast majority that do not pay attention to them, how does Nintendo expect to ever reach those people? Again it's just another side effect of this bunker mentality that Nintendo has always had. It's also another reason why Their audience has steadily been shrinking year-over-year.

[Talal86]

are we conveniently forgetting when Nintendo released a pre-rendered 'gameplay' footage that is actually a CGI movie as a wii u tech demo in 2011? and when they finally announced a wii u zelda it looked nothing like that, in fact none of the wii u games looked as impressive as that

even breath of the wild was teased with a cg movie years ago

and we've known about the nx since early 2015, hardly a secret and quick project

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by jimidini

Since this year.
They released one single sneak peak trailer that was maybe 1 minute and that was it for ages. That was surely not a preview.

Other companies would have released new trailers every few months for years. Like for example in case of the overhyped (and unfinished) Metal Grind Solid 5, where they basically made trailers out of almost every single cutscene footage there is in the game and they even used audio tapes as well.

Well thats quite different than what you mentioned with your Paper Mario example of announce and release within a few months. Thats clearly what has not happened with Zelda

Citation needed

Pikmin 3DS and Paper Mario already obviously weren't. No leaks.

Star Fox Guard was effectively announced (and that it was available in a bundle with SFZ) a few months before release. No leaks.

Project Zero 5 was announced April 2014, game was released in Japan a few months after that. Western release was announced a year later (April 2015) and you obviously couldn't be sure if there actually would be a western release see PZ4. Game was actually released 6 months after that. No leaks.

I can go on...

Star Fox was originally announced in 2014 and didnt come out for 2 years. Other games, Smash Bros Wii U, Super Mario Maker
were announced at E3 and didnt come out till over a year later, not just a few months. I'll concede that most aren't long after release but most definitely arent out the same year they are announced. They do a mix of both.

And are you freaking kidding? They keep showing the same things over and over? Unless you are going "pure open world gameplay" == showing the same things.

No Im not. They havent had the best output with the Wii u. I dont feel like they've had a whole lot to show in the past 2 years. Its pretty much been Mario Maker, Smash Bros, Star Fox and Zelda

Can't remember anyone leaking new Paper Mario on Wii U, Pikmin 3DS nor the Yoshi game ported over to 3DS, but whatever.

And yes, exactly - NX hasn't leaked yet. All of the leaks were pure BS. Sure, assuming that it will be cart-based makes sense and it will probably be so, but that's not based on any leak what-so-ever.

In case you of course say every possibility there is and in the end one of those is actually true, then it was still not based on a leak.

Anyway, my point was that it would actually be fun, not that they would do so. If there is a week between announcement and being able to buy it at stores, that would be basically the same. It would also be different and it's already obvious that they won't announce it 1 year in advance, because otherwise they would have shown it at E3.

PS4 Bro got leaked, although you also never know for sure, if it was intentional or not, to figure out the reaction of people. No one surely leaked this because of Sony boxes, that were sent to a store.

There is a big difference between software and hardware. Those games werent in the stores when they were announced which is what you suggested they do with the NX

And?
Those get more and more irrelevant nowadays, especially for Nintendo. That's why they made Nintendo Directs in the first place. Why waste money on so called "journalists" and "critics", when you can instead put that money into game development and talk directly to your customers?

Gaming media and its so called "critics" is literally a PR company for publishers and games are supposed to get better scores depending on advertising budget for the sites (even giving a shitty game a great score, one of the best the game got, but it not being high enough can get you fired *cough* Gerstmann *cough*) If you still trust those after all the crap they pulled....

But if you really need someone to tell you, that you should buy this or that game or console, then I don't know what to say. If I went like this, I would have never for example bought NieR on PS3. Most so called "critics" "hated" it (probably because the advertising budget was too low or even non existent - and you actually had to play it through - even multiple times, to get the full experience).

Ad budget for the new Zelda (and basically every main Zelda game including Skyward Sword) is very high, so I'm also saying it now that IGN and such sites will give it a 10/10. There is no way around it.

No they aren't irrelevant bc most of us get most of our info from them. Nintendo just like all the other manufacturers use the press to generate hype and tell their message. lets face it, Nintendo screwed up with the Wii and Wii U and have left gamers skeptical about what they do next. They are going to need positive advocates of this thing who can relay that its great and worthy of people's money

Like Steelmaker mentioned, the only ones watching the Nintendo Directs are hardcore Nintendo fans and those have decreased with every passing generation. Why waste money on press? So you can make more money in the long run. They need to cater to and reach out to people that may not necessarily have them on their radar. Completely alienating the press and launching this thing with NO promotional push would really be a silly and foolish business move. It'll backfire and I cant see too many 3rd party publishers being too excited about an approach like that

Do I need anyone to tell me to buy something? No, but i am an informed buyer and anyone that buys a device thats 100s of dollars and then complains bc they are disappointed, only has themselves to blame. Feedback and articles about a system are informative ways to learn about it and be in the know before you make a purchase. Lord knows, the console manufacturers dont tell you everything as they will highlight the great points and not talk about or hide some of the negatives. Thats why online feedback from those who have actually had hand on experience are valuable and we live in an age where we can actually do informative research before making blind purchases

Originally Posted by Talal86

are we conveniently forgetting when Nintendo released a pre-rendered 'gameplay' footage that is actually a CGI movie as a wii u tech demo in 2011? and when they finally announced a wii u zelda it looked nothing like that, in fact none of the wii u games looked as impressive as that

even breath of the wild was teased with a cg movie years ago

and we've known about the nx since early 2015, hardly a secret and quick project

Nope, just one person

[CuriousGamer]

Originally Posted by Talal86

are we conveniently forgetting when Nintendo released a pre-rendered 'gameplay' footage that is actually a CGI movie as a wii u tech demo in 2011? and when they finally announced a wii u zelda it looked nothing like that, in fact none of the wii u games looked as impressive as that
:

1) Tech demos always look better than actual games, usually because they are made to show off hardware as best as possible with Min/Max'ing hardware that sometimes isn't finalised.

2) The Wii U tech demo wasn't a CGI movie but nor was it playable, rendered in real time whilst the "player" could minipulate camera angle and time of day. But because most of the content is fixed graphics quality can be improved.

[Talal86]

Originally Posted by CuriousGamer

1) Tech demos always look better than actual games, usually because they are made to show off hardware as best as possible with Min/Max'ing hardware that sometimes isn't finalised.

2) The Wii U tech demo wasn't a CGI movie but nor was it playable, rendered in real time whilst the "player" could minipulate camera angle and time of day. But because most of the content is fixed graphics quality can be improved.

still that demo wasn't a representative of what the wii u offered, which was the point

and again, Zelda wii u was first announced with a cg teaser, and a year later with a small gameplay part, when you compare it with the 2016 e3 demo, there's a downgrade

so let's not pretend like nintendo aren't doing what the rest of the industry do

and if you want to nit pick, how about you focus on all the hyperboles and lies that guy post daily

[dyne]

Tesco had a temp page up that has since had the pricing removed. Let's hope it was a bundle price. I'm not looking to spend over $300 on this thing.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/09/2...-price-at-350/

Major UK retailer Tesco has created a temporary page for the Nintendo NX platform and as of 8am UK time they had the system priced up at £349.99. The temporary page is still there, but the pricing has gone. We know that retailers descended on Nintendo headquarters in Germany last week for an unspecified reason so perhaps they were one of the first retailers to see Nintendo’s next generation platform. We won’t know for sure until Nintendo unveil the system which is due to be released in March 2017.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by dyne

Tesco had a temp page up that has since had the pricing removed. Let's hope it was a bundle price. I'm not looking to spend over $300 on this thing.

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/09/2...-price-at-350/

At that price, it had better be powerful.

[Mavrick]

Haha trust me that page is a placeholder. If you believe that £349 price then believe it will launch on the 31st december too

we've had nothing at all in relation to NX communicated to us. It's just the site updating for when pre orders are announced.

[Mavrick]

LMFAO, com on Nintendo.


BEFORE


AFTER

[jimidini]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

AFTER

Soon to be looking for a new job:
Andrew Collins, communications manager at Nintendo of Canada

I guess he shouldn't have communicated that much

The first rule of NX is "you do not talk about NX".
The second rule of NX is "you do NOT talk about NX".

[jimidini]

Originally Posted by Havok83

Other games, Smash Bros Wii U, Super Mario Maker
were announced at E3 and didnt come out till over a year later, not just a few months. I'll concede that most aren't long after release but most definitely arent out the same year they are announced. They do a mix of both.

So you actually say that Nintendo is actually not doing what the rest of the industry is doing regularly.

Metal Grind 5 for example was announced August 2012 and was released THREE years later in 2015.

Or let's take a really really bad case - Last Guardian - announced w/ BS CG trailer in 2009. And now it may finally be released ... on the follow-up console. 7 years later. People bought PS3s because of this game, but nope - won't release on it.

That's what the (AAA) industry is typically doing. And well, it actually makes sense in that regard. They are doing the same with (big budget) movies quite often.

No Im not. They havent had the best output with the Wii u. I dont feel like they've had a whole lot to show in the past 2 years. Its pretty much been Mario Maker, Smash Bros, Star Fox and Zelda

They gave me tons of niche games to play. That wouldn't have seen the light of day anywhere else. Project Zero 5. Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE. And I will even include Devil's Third in that one, I bought it in February and it's actually a really well made game w/ an extensive online multiplayer, that simply works w/o any patches what-so-ever. Including user created levels in clan matches. It's a shame that the so called "gaming press" killed it.

And what are you even saying - past 2 years? You do know that Splatoon was released in 2015? And that other small game with a really small world called Xenoblade Chronicles X?

Would it have been nice to get more? Sure. But I still have around 40 games in my Wii U backlog and tons more in my 3DS backlog. I can't complain that much. And that's also what HD development does to games. I mean just look how many games Sony + Microsoft themselves actually developed in the last 3 years. Almost none.

Those games werent in the stores when they were announced which is what you suggested they do with the NX

I didn't suggest that they would do anything. I simply said that I would enjoy it in case they did something like that. And as I already said - they are somewhat actually doing that. Question is how much time will be between announcement and release. We are now 6 months away from March 2017 and we still know nothing at all about NX.

And people thought they would announce and show it at E3.

No they aren't irrelevant bc most of us get most of our info from them.

And more and more people stop with that, because they see that they are tricked and lied to more and more often. See Metal Grind 5. See Batman. See WatchDogs. See No Man's Sky. etc. So called "gaming press" aka PR sites hype games up to the max, so that the games get as many preorders as possible and after 1 or 2 month you actually see what actual fans think about it.

Especially with Metal Grind 5 it was simply disgusting. Not only is that game not even finished, but it has TONS of problems and microtransactions on top. And it's effectively a joke, when compared to actual masterpieces like Metal Gear Solid 2+3. If those PR sites would actually let actual fans of those franchises write their actual opinion, then the scores would look quite different.

Nintendo just like all the other manufacturers use the press to generate hype and tell their message.

Not really. They are actually doing the exact opposite. Have you seen what Nintendo has done in the last X years at E3? No mega-big money-wasting conferences. Instead they created Treehouse, where you see the games being actually played. Low cost and you actually see what you will get. That's actually what consumers SHOULD want.

Nintendo is also only doing the extreme advertising sprees on a few games only - for example Zelda. On most others they don't. And you see that in the so called "reviews". Just read the gamespot "review" of Tropical Freeze for example. That one is really a joke.

lets face it, Nintendo screwed up with the Wii and Wii U and have left gamers skeptical about what they do next.

What are you talking about.
The Wii U, sure. But the Wii? Yeah the best selling console last gen was "screwed up", not those other consoles, that didn't even deliver on HD plenty of times (remember: Sony advertised aka lied that it would do 1080p, 1080p, 1080p and that's why it's so expensive) and almost managed to bankrupt Sony.

They are going to need positive advocates of this thing who can relay that its great and worthy of people's money

If IGN and such sites would actually hype up the NX like there's no tomorrow, then that would actually be a reason for me to think three times before buying one. Because I would assume that there is something fishy going on.

Like Steelmaker mentioned, the only ones watching the Nintendo Directs are hardcore Nintendo fans and those have decreased with every passing generation.

Ever heard of this thing called social media?
For example here: http://www.wired.co.uk/article/lenov...do-tech-brands

Why was there a Pokemon Go craze? Because of the gaming press? No, because of social media.
Why did the Wii do so well? Because of the gaming press? No, the gaming press actually laughed at it, because "no HD" and "too weak".

They need to cater to and reach out to people that may not necessarily have them on their radar.

To whom should they cater to? Those so called "hardcore gamers", that love to play dumbed down cinematic games on PS4/XB1 and go for graphics instead of gameplay? THEY WON'T GET THOSE IN ANY CASE, because that audience wants the exact opposite of what Nintendo delivers. And that's the only audience of the so called gaming press.

Do you think grandpa read about the Wii in the gaming press?

I cant see too many 3rd party publishers being too excited about an approach like that

The 3rd party publishers were totally the reason why the Wii succeeded that well. Oh no, they actually weren't.

Feedback and articles about a system are informative ways to learn about it and be in the know before you make a purchase.

Well, I actually bought an Asian white PS3 because the gaming press and Sony told me that it would be totally region free and games would work regardless of region.

And then I found out that that was a lie. And I still don't see a single article after all those years and tons of broken games about all the issues with the silly X / O button difference between Asian and western Playstations and how many games simply either do not work or have huge issues because of that. And why Sony never implemented at the very least a simple system setting to switch that around, so customers could workaround those issues. Thanks gaming "press".

You see this so called "press" is not trustworthy.

They hype shit up because they are paid for that. That's their only job.

[Derb]

Originally Posted by jimidini

Soon to be looking for a new job:
Andrew Collins, communications manager at Nintendo of Canada

I guess he shouldn't have communicated that much

The first rule of NX is "you do not talk about NX".
The second rule of NX is "you do NOT talk about NX".

I'm confused.

He suggested that Nintendo "will likely" reveal something before launch on Nintendo's own Direct.

So he's canned. Who the F cares.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by jimidini

So you actually say that Nintendo is actually not doing what the rest of the industry is doing regularly.

Metal Grind 5 for example was announced August 2012 and was released THREE years later in 2015.

Or let's take a really really bad case - Last Guardian - announced w/ BS CG trailer in 2009. And now it may finally be released ... on the follow-up console. 7 years later. People bought PS3s because of this game, but nope - won't release on it.

That's what the (AAA) industry is typically doing. And well, it actually makes sense in that regard. They are doing the same with (big budget) movies quite often.



They gave me tons of niche games to play. That wouldn't have seen the light of day anywhere else. Project Zero 5. Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE. And I will even include Devil's Third in that one, I bought it in February and it's actually a really well made game w/ an extensive online multiplayer, that simply works w/o any patches what-so-ever. Including user created levels in clan matches. It's a shame that the so called "gaming press" killed it.

And what are you even saying - past 2 years? You do know that Splatoon was released in 2015? And that other small game with a really small world called Xenoblade Chronicles X?

Would it have been nice to get more? Sure. But I still have around 40 games in my Wii U backlog and tons more in my 3DS backlog. I can't complain that much. And that's also what HD development does to games. I mean just look how many games Sony + Microsoft themselves actually developed in the last 3 years. Almost none.



I didn't suggest that they would do anything. I simply said that I would enjoy it in case they did something like that. And as I already said - they are somewhat actually doing that. Question is how much time will be between announcement and release. We are now 6 months away from March 2017 and we still know nothing at all about NX.

And people thought they would announce and show it at E3.



And more and more people stop with that, because they see that they are tricked and lied to more and more often. See Metal Grind 5. See Batman. See WatchDogs. See No Man's Sky. etc. So called "gaming press" aka PR sites hype games up to the max, so that the games get as many preorders as possible and after 1 or 2 month you actually see what actual fans think about it.

Especially with Metal Grind 5 it was simply disgusting. Not only is that game not even finished, but it has TONS of problems and microtransactions on top. And it's effectively a joke, when compared to actual masterpieces like Metal Gear Solid 2+3. If those PR sites would actually let actual fans of those franchises write their actual opinion, then the scores would look quite different.



Not really. They are actually doing the exact opposite. Have you seen what Nintendo has done in the last X years at E3? No mega-big money-wasting conferences. Instead they created Treehouse, where you see the games being actually played. Low cost and you actually see what you will get. That's actually what consumers SHOULD want.

Nintendo is also only doing the extreme advertising sprees on a few games only - for example Zelda. On most others they don't. And you see that in the so called "reviews". Just read the gamespot "review" of Tropical Freeze for example. That one is really a joke.



What are you talking about.
The Wii U, sure. But the Wii? Yeah the best selling console last gen was "screwed up", not those other consoles, that didn't even deliver on HD plenty of times (remember: Sony advertised aka lied that it would do 1080p, 1080p, 1080p and that's why it's so expensive) and almost managed to bankrupt Sony.



If IGN and such sites would actually hype up the NX like there's no tomorrow, then that would actually be a reason for me to think three times before buying one. Because I would assume that there is something fishy going on.



Ever heard of this thing called social media?
For example here: http://www.wired.co.uk/article/lenov...do-tech-brands

Why was there a Pokemon Go craze? Because of the gaming press? No, because of social media.
Why did the Wii do so well? Because of the gaming press? No, the gaming press actually laughed at it, because "no HD" and "too weak".



To whom should they cater to? Those so called "hardcore gamers", that love to play dumbed down cinematic games on PS4/XB1 and go for graphics instead of gameplay? THEY WON'T GET THOSE IN ANY CASE, because that audience wants the exact opposite of what Nintendo delivers. And that's the only audience of the so called gaming press.

Do you think grandpa read about the Wii in the gaming press?



The 3rd party publishers were totally the reason why the Wii succeeded that well. Oh no, they actually weren't.



Well, I actually bought an Asian white PS3 because the gaming press and Sony told me that it would be totally region free and games would work regardless of region.

And then I found out that that was a lie. And I still don't see a single article after all those years and tons of broken games about all the issues with the silly X / O button difference between Asian and western Playstations and how many games simply either do not work or have huge issues because of that. And why Sony never implemented at the very least a simple system setting to switch that around, so customers could workaround those issues. Thanks gaming "press".

You see this so called "press" is not trustworthy.

They hype shit up because they are paid for that. That's their only job.

Please stop talking. You are clueless.

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by jimidini

I didn't suggest that they would do anything. I simply said that I would enjoy it in case they did something like that. And as I already said - they are somewhat actually doing that. Question is how much time will be between announcement and release. We are now 6 months away from March 2017 and we still know nothing at all about NX.

And people thought they would announce and show it at E3.

No they arent somewhat doing that. There is a huge difference between announcing and releasing tomorrow compared to announcing and releasing 6 months later

Anyone who thought that wasnt paying attention bc they came out ahead of time and said they werent going to talk about it at E3

[Derb]

Wow the Sony train is in deep desperate mode in this thread.

I didn't find nor need to find anything off about jimidini long post.

[Talal86]

sony train? I guess some people never grew out of being 'you're either a sega kid or a nintendo kid'.. if you really believe that this conversation is because 'we love X , thus we hate Y'. that speaks more about your maturity level

I didn't call this guy a fanboy because he loves nintendo, and while we're at it, there's nothing wrong with being a fanboy, as long as you're level headed. the thing is, all this guy does is praise nintendo/tear down everyone else.

show me non nintendo related constructive posts from this guy.

want to be a cynical gamer? want to hate modern gaming? be my guest. but don't insult our intelligence and pretend like everyone is shit except for nintendo. they're as money driven, as everyone else is. amiibos are one of the biggest rip off in the industry. 'You want this content that's already on the disc you bought? Buy Amiibo to unlock it'

also, diverting a conversation about a system that will be released in 2017, to a system released in 2006 is downright stupid, there is no way around it. and that's where the 'clueless' part comes from. this guy apparently doesn't know how technology moves forward. no one here is claiming any system is perfect. but something lacking in the ps3 shouldn't be an excuse for the wii u or nx not to have the latest technology standards

we're all adults, no need for the daily tantrums. you don't get to decide that you're the spokesperson of nintendo, just because

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by Talal86

sony train? I guess some people never grew out of being 'you're either a sega kid or a nintendo kid'.. if you really believe that this conversation is because 'we love X , thus we hate Y'. that speaks more about your maturity level

I didn't call this guy a fanboy because he loves nintendo, and while we're at it, there's nothing wrong with being a fanboy, as long as you're level headed. the thing is, all this guy does is praise nintendo/tear down everyone else.

show me non nintendo related constructive posts from this guy.

want to be a cynical gamer? want to hate modern gaming? be my guest. but don't insult our intelligence and pretend like everyone is shit except for nintendo. they're as money driven, as everyone else is. amiibos are one of the biggest rip off in the industry. 'You want this content that's already on the disc you bought? Buy Amiibo to unlock it'

also, diverting a conversation about a system that will be released in 2017, to a system released in 2006 is downright stupid, there is no way around it. and that's where the 'clueless' part comes from. this guy apparently doesn't know how technology moves forward. no one here is claiming any system is perfect. but something lacking in the ps3 shouldn't be an excuse for the wii u or nx not to have the latest technology standards

we're all adults, no need for the daily tantrums. you don't get to decide that you're the spokesperson of nintendo, just because

Well said. Not only that, you can be a fan of a company's games while at the same time be critical of their business practices. I'm a PlayStation fan but Lord knows, I've raked Sony over the coals in the PS4 forum for some of the stupid crap they've pulled. Jimidini's problem is that he wants to act as if Nintendo is some saintly entity who's shit doesn't stink. To me, that's the very definition of being a fanboy. When someone is so willing to ignore or not see a company's faults in the interest of carrying their torch, it's hard to respect their opinions.

[Derb]

Originally Posted by Talal86

sony train? I guess some people never grew out of being 'you're either a sega kid or a nintendo kid'.. if you really believe that this conversation is because 'we love X , thus we hate Y'. that speaks more about your maturity level

Then prove him wrong.

Steel telling him to basically shut up instead of rebuttal is hilarious. Oh & I think all have known about his passion for Nintendo for quite sometime.

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by Derb

Then prove him wrong.

Steel telling him to basically shut up instead of rebuttal is hilarious. Oh & I think all have known about his passion for Nintendo for quite sometime.

How does that equate to him or any of us being on the Sony train? I dont recall any of us even bringing Sony into the equation, but you just did