Apocalypse Now 4K UHD (1979) - Page 91 - Blu-ray Forum

Member-222782 · 08-26-2019, 01:12 PM

My copy was out for delivery on Saturday but the mailman decided he didn't want to leave the comfort of his truck to deliver it so I can't comment on the PQ but I did watch an unboxing video. That is the stupidest packaging I've yet to see and I've seen my fair share. Usually those cardboard gatefolds are what you find inside a slipcase or other outer packaging but all Lionsgate could up with was a J card? Holy smokes did they drop the ball here. That flimsy cardboard is going to fall apart within days - what was LG thinking? The Blu-ray set had a nice hard case (at least the Collector's Edition did) so why backtrack for this 4K upgrade?

punisher · 08-26-2019, 01:57 PM

LOL....I have the same problem with my mailman, and don't ever go to the PO to complain because"we are doing you a favor when we deliver packages".

and don't get me started on UPS...

Archivy · 08-26-2019, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinema84

My copy was out for delivery on Saturday but the mailman decided he didn't want to leave the comfort of his truck to deliver it so I can't comment on the PQ but I did watch an unboxing video. That is the stupidest packaging I've yet to see and I've seen my fair share. Usually those cardboard gatefolds are what you find inside a slipcase or other outer packaging but all Lionsgate could up with was a J card? Holy smokes did they drop the ball here. That flimsy cardboard is going to fall apart within days - what was LG thinking? The Blu-ray set had a nice hard case (at least the Collector's Edition did) so why backtrack for this 4K upgrade?

Agree. Nearly every 4k UHD release comes with a useless slipcover except for the one package that actually needs it, Apocalypse Now.

With all the cover art travesties and illogical packaging decisions, 4k UHD really has turned out to be a physical packaging clustf--k of a format.

bbwiscfan · 08-26-2019, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinema84

My copy was out for delivery on Saturday but the mailman decided he didn't want to leave the comfort of his truck to deliver it so I can't comment on the PQ but I did watch an unboxing video. That is the stupidest packaging I've yet to see and I've seen my fair share. Usually those cardboard gatefolds are what you find inside a slipcase or other outer packaging but all Lionsgate could up with was a J card? Holy smokes did they drop the ball here. That flimsy cardboard is going to fall apart within days - what was LG thinking? The Blu-ray set had a nice hard case (at least the Collector's Edition did) so why backtrack for this 4K upgrade?

Sorry to hear that, I work for USPS, and we absolutely have to deliver packages to the door if they won't fit in the mailbox (unless a specific reason like no access or dog interference, etc). Like you said, he didn't do his job.

If it were me, you would be enjoying the film as you should have on Sat lol.

HeavyHitter · 08-26-2019, 04:00 PM

I looked at a few scenes of the remastered BD last night comparing them to the UHD. On the BD, you can definitely see highlights missing and almost a bit of that over-brightness with whites especially in the scene when the Playboy bunnies are leaving in the helicopter during the event - the water reflections, lights, etc. One of the dancers just looked too bright. Grain is less defined on the BD as would be expected from lower resolution but I wondered about the encoding as well. Some of this is just common with these newer SDR conversions. I no longer have the original BD to compare, but my memory tells me this new BD is still an overall improvement for the color alone.

NotASpeckOfCereal · 08-26-2019, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ApeRyan10

Details are off the charts for such an older movie and looked like it could have been shot yesterday.

Why do people keep saying things like this? There have been fantastic photography cameras and lenses (and high quality film) for many decades now. Modern film (digital aside) has not improved greatly in the more recent past. Lenses have seen great advances over the decades, but the ones 50 years ago were no slouches.

I saw a photographic print yesterday from an 8x10 glass plate that was over 100 years old, and the detail was fantastic.

Chris

steel_breeze · 08-26-2019, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NotASpeckOfCereal

Why do people keep saying things like this? There have been fantastic photography cameras and lenses (and high quality film) for many decades now. Modern film (digital aside) has not improved greatly in the more recent past. Lenses have seen great advances over the decades, but the ones 50 years ago were no slouches.

I saw a photographic print yesterday from an 8x10 glass plate that was over 100 years old, and the detail was fantastic.

Chris

Indeed. I'm one of those old-timers that still responds to something modern/digital with the compliment: "that was beautiful; looks like it was shot on film!"

Jason1978 · 08-26-2019, 05:31 PM

Anyone else get their copy early? I had pre-ordered it from Wal-Mart and at 9am this morning in my driveway there it was. Was surprised as it said it wouldn't arrive until August 29th.

Jason1978 · 08-26-2019, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by punisher

LOL....I have the same problem with my mailman, and don't ever go to the PO to complain because"we are doing you a favor when we deliver packages".

and don't get me started on UPS...

FedEx dropped mine off at 9am this morning. Wasn't expecting it until 8/29 and it's not released until tomorrow but there it was...middle of my driveway and had I not saw it, I would've drove over the damn things. FedEx ALWAYS leaves packages in the driveway. If not the driveway, up against the garage door where I can easily back out over it...and have before.

BuckNaked2k · 08-26-2019, 06:08 PM

Just got mine delivered by regular mail - once again, Bull Moose comes through.

It's a shame this was released with no outer box or printed booklet. IMHO, this one still sets the standard:

brainofj72 · 08-26-2019, 06:47 PM

This and Stand by Me are waiting for me when I get home...work can’t end soon enough!

stringer · 08-26-2019, 06:49 PM

So this is only available online, Best Buy, Walmart , etc , won't have it at retail ?

tyrok · 08-26-2019, 07:25 PM

Best Buy will have it.

stringer · 08-26-2019, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tyrok

Best Buy will have it.

Best Buy website says "Only available for shipping"

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apocaly...?skuId=6356622

did not see there ad in the newspaper

Extremis · 08-26-2019, 07:34 PM

Can’t wait to get this on September 7th.

hariseldon · 08-26-2019, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stringer

Best Buy website says "Only available for shipping"

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apocaly...?skuId=6356622

did not see there ad in the newspaper

Tyrok (BBY employee) has already shown pics of in-store copies.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=25

Another BBY employee has confirmed his store had at least 7 and several nearby stores at least a dozen

bfrazer1 · 08-26-2019, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthMarino

In addition to what's already been stated, the French plantation scene runs almost four minutes shorter. The cuts are spread out. Some stuff right after they get off the boat. Some after they encounter the soldiers. During the dinner, Christian Marquand never goes to the window during his story about the mountain. The accordion player never plays the Star Spangled Banner, etc.

Interesting. So is there a detailed rundown of all the changes anywhere? Because all I'd heard up until now made it sound like it's basically the Redux with two scenes cut (the bunnies and reading from Time Mag), but it looks like that's not the case.

Alister_M · 08-26-2019, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinema84

My copy was out for delivery on Saturday but the mailman decided he didn't want to leave the comfort of his truck to deliver it so I can't comment on the PQ but I did watch an unboxing video. That is the stupidest packaging I've yet to see and I've seen my fair share. Usually those cardboard gatefolds are what you find inside a slipcase or other outer packaging but all Lionsgate could up with was a J card? Holy smokes did they drop the ball here. That flimsy cardboard is going to fall apart within days - what was LG thinking? The Blu-ray set had a nice hard case (at least the Collector's Edition did) so why backtrack for this 4K upgrade?

I have digipaks that are over 20 years old and still holding together fine. Just like how people moan about steelbooks getting damaged, wtf are they doing to them? Sure, if you throw stuff around and treat it like garbage it'll get damaged, but normal wear and tear aside, I've never had issues with either of those formats (except a broken hub on my Dexter S3 DVD digipak from when I dropped it on a hardwood floor, but that's my own fault for having been a clumsy oaf).

agent999 · 08-26-2019, 09:17 PM

My problem with digipaks is what happens when they're on the way to me, not how I treat them once I have them. They are prone to getting dented up and the trays smashed in transit. I've had some with smashed disc hubs when you open them up, it's not like you can just replace a case. Swapping a tray is nearly impossible without damaging the card underneath. Certainly not importing this one, the chances of it crossing the atlantic without damage are slim. I'll wait a few weeks for the local release and either buy in store or get the steelbook (providing the discs aren't stacked on the same hub as in the bloody stupid French Dunkirk steelbook).

OgamiittoMcJ · 08-26-2019, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RodChester

Do we know if the bluray discs included in this new set are exactly the same as the previously released three blurays?

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Originally Posted by Kazuma-

is only the 'final cut' remastered in 4K? not the redux version?

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Originally Posted by cpr3584

Is the regular blu ray disc remastered in 4K or is it the same one from previous blu ray releases?

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Originally Posted by Bn43

So all three cuts got the exact same video and audio treatment? I can't decide which to watch first. I watched Redux like eight years ago and the theatrical a few times before that.

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Originally Posted by awp69

I know all three are 4K with DV and Atmos but is it confirmed they are all using the same restored video and audio? Or is it only the Final Cut that has the fully restored video and audio?

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Originally Posted by awp69

Do you know if all three cuts are using the same restored video and audio?

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Originally Posted by MattGuyOR

I’m sorry if this has been answered already, but do we know yet if all the cuts are of equal quality? I’m mostly interested in the theatrical cut.

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Originally Posted by Desmond Wolfe

Any feedback on how the new 1080 BD looks compared to the previous release? Sorry if I missed it earlier...

ok I'll join in, help lol

can Geoff or anyone confirm, I'm still not quite sure

08-26-2019, 09:17 PM	#1819
agent999 Expert Member Member since:Apr 2010 Location:UK	My problem with digipaks is what happens when they're on the way to me, not how I treat them once I have them. They are prone to getting dented up and the trays smashed in transit. I've had some with smashed disc hubs when you open them up, it's not like you can just replace a case. Swapping a tray is nearly impossible without damaging the card underneath. Certainly not importing this one, the chances of it crossing the atlantic without damage are slim. I'll wait a few weeks for the local release and either buy in store or get the steelbook (providing the discs aren't stacked on the same hub as in the bloody stupid French Dunkirk steelbook). Last edited by agent999; 08-26-2019 at 09:21 PM.

08-26-2019, 01:12 PM	#1801
Member-222782 Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jun 2012 4K collection:645 Blu-ray collection:4556 DVD collection:474 Trading Score:140	My copy was out for delivery on Saturday but the mailman decided he didn't want to leave the comfort of his truck to deliver it so I can't comment on the PQ but I did watch an unboxing video. That is the stupidest packaging I've yet to see and I've seen my fair share. Usually those cardboard gatefolds are what you find inside a slipcase or other outer packaging but all Lionsgate could up with was a J card? Holy smokes did they drop the ball here. That flimsy cardboard is going to fall apart within days - what was LG thinking? The Blu-ray set had a nice hard case (at least the Collector's Edition did) so why backtrack for this 4K upgrade?

08-26-2019, 01:57 PM	#1802
punisher Blu-ray Knight Member since:May 2010 Location:MSG CHASE BRIDGE Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:223	LOL....I have the same problem with my mailman, and don't ever go to the PO to complain because"we are doing you a favor when we deliver packages". and don't get me started on UPS...

08-26-2019, 04:00 PM	#1805
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	I looked at a few scenes of the remastered BD last night comparing them to the UHD. On the BD, you can definitely see highlights missing and almost a bit of that over-brightness with whites especially in the scene when the Playboy bunnies are leaving in the helicopter during the event - the water reflections, lights, etc. One of the dancers just looked too bright. Grain is less defined on the BD as would be expected from lower resolution but I wondered about the encoding as well. Some of this is just common with these newer SDR conversions. I no longer have the original BD to compare, but my memory tells me this new BD is still an overall improvement for the color alone.

08-26-2019, 05:31 PM	#1808
Jason1978 Active Member Member since:May 2009 Location:Hagerstown, MD 4K collection:248 Blu-ray collection:878 Blu-ray reviews: 24	Anyone else get their copy early? I had pre-ordered it from Wal-Mart and at 9am this morning in my driveway there it was. Was surprised as it said it wouldn't arrive until August 29th.

08-26-2019, 06:08 PM	#1810
BuckNaked2k Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Connecticut 4K collection:32 Blu-ray collection:761 DVD collection:47 Trading Score:146	Just got mine delivered by regular mail - once again, Bull Moose comes through. It's a shame this was released with no outer box or printed booklet. IMHO, this one still sets the standard:

08-26-2019, 06:47 PM	#1811
brainofj72 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:USA 4K collection:1040 Blu-ray collection:3618 DVD collection:817 Digital collection:151 iTunes collection:141 Trading Score:152	This and Stand by Me are waiting for me when I get home...work can’t end soon enough!

08-26-2019, 06:49 PM	#1812
stringer Active Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:75 DVD collection:22	So this is only available online, Best Buy, Walmart , etc , won't have it at retail ?

08-26-2019, 07:25 PM	#1813
tyrok Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2014 4K collection:1750 Blu-ray collection:1750	Best Buy will have it.

08-26-2019, 07:34 PM	#1815
Extremis Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2011 4K collection:83 Blu-ray collection:1801 DVD collection:320 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:67	Can’t wait to get this on September 7th.

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