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Old 05-19-2010, 03:21 AM   #1841
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Sounds like everybody is in agreement then that a 7.1 setup consisting of 7 RC-10's would be fantastic for movie viewing? I'm really leaning towards this because I'd like to have the exact same speaker all the way around as I think this is the best sound you can get and the most seamless, especially for pans.

These RC-10's would be better than just getting the Onkyo ht-s9100thx HTIB wouldn't they? I thought of doing that since they would be matching speakers all around and since I already have a receiver I'd sell the receiver that came with it and keep the sub to have 2 subs. I would expect the RC-10's would blow away the Onkyo HTIB speakers?

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Old 05-19-2010, 03:43 AM   #1842
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When FS does a sale of a product at $.97 means liquidation price.

Therefore all of the Black Ash products in RC-10 RC-30 and RC-50 went trough this. Cherry and Rosenut has been liquidated long ago. Only RC products left on shelfs are RC-70 RC-LCR and RC-R along with the minis..

The C-series went trough the exact same process when I baught my system on liquidation and one of my friends work there for a second job.

So, impossible to restock on the RC series I swear there is nothing else left in Canada.

I really have a feeling that they might come with the new RC- in January very much like they did with the Conoisseur in January 2009.


They certainly don't want to say anything now and It's understandable.
well he said, You might want to keep an eye out for any new announcements between Sept and Jan. With a small inflection on the word might......

Given the C-series came out in 06 and replaced in 09 and the RCs came out in 07, so to see them update in 2011 (or sooner) would make total sense.
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:44 AM   #1843
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Sounds like everybody is in agreement then that a 7.1 setup consisting of 7 RC-10's would be fantastic for movie viewing? I'm really leaning towards this because I'd like to have the exact same speaker all the way around as I think this is the best sound you can get and the most seamless, especially for pans.

These RC-10's would be better than just getting the Onkyo ht-s9100thx HTIB wouldn't they? I thought of doing that since they would be matching speakers all around and since I already have a receiver I'd sell the receiver that came with it and keep the sub to have 2 subs. I would expect the RC-10's would blow away the Onkyo HTIB speakers?
Yes that would be a great setup. However remember that you need to keep the center channel upright and not on its side.
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:46 AM   #1844
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Yes that would be a great setup. However remember that you need to keep the center channel upright and not on its side.
Yes, I have room to set the center upright so that shouldn't be a problem.
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:50 AM   #1845
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Yes, I have room to set the center upright so that shouldn't be a problem.
awesome, are you going to be able to hear them before you buy? or are you going to blind buy again and see how they work out for you?
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:07 AM   #1846
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Steve,

You may want to addt this review to your list for the CB-20

http://www.goodsound.com/equipment/energy_cb20.htm
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Steve,

You may want to addt this review to your list for the CB-20

http://www.goodsound.com/equipment/energy_cb20.htm
I must be getting tired it's there already.
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:55 AM   #1848
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I must be getting tired it's there already.
I actually found a new review too
http://hometheaterreview.com/energy-...aker-reviewed/
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:32 AM   #1849
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awesome, are you going to be able to hear them before you buy? or are you going to blind buy again and see how they work out for you?
No, I won't be able to hear them anywhere around here. If I buy I'll have to just pull the trigger and hope for the best.
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Sounds like everybody is in agreement then that a 7.1 setup consisting of 7 RC-10's would be fantastic for movie viewing? I'm really leaning towards this because I'd like to have the exact same speaker all the way around as I think this is the best sound you can get and the most seamless, especially for pans.

These RC-10's would be better than just getting the Onkyo ht-s9100thx HTIB wouldn't they? I thought of doing that since they would be matching speakers all around and since I already have a receiver I'd sell the receiver that came with it and keep the sub to have 2 subs. I would expect the RC-10's would blow away the Onkyo HTIB speakers?
Night and day difference in favor of the RC-10 setup. Of course the price is quite a bit difference as well but I'd take 2.1 RC-10's over a 7.1 setup of far inferior speakers.
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:57 PM   #1851
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No, I won't be able to hear them anywhere around here. If I buy I'll have to just pull the trigger and hope for the best.
well Energys are easy on the ears, so you have that going for you.
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:31 PM   #1852
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hello all,

any reviews on this center speaker http://nanaimo.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ203838445

will it match my c-100 okay?
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hello all,

any reviews on this center speaker http://nanaimo.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ203838445

will it match my c-100 okay?
While both use aluminum dome tweeters, the woofer uses different materials on each (not stating using the same materials would lend to the same sound either but even less of a chance of a match with different materials (different properties).

I would be a bit hesitant matching them up as the sound characteristics might be a bit different (the XL C is from 2002). Typically people want the front sound state (if not all) to be timber matched or having the same sound all around. Of course some people don't mind different sound characteristics from the center versus the mains.

Best solution would be to try it out if possible (bring your speakers over or ask for a trial day) try listening in phantom mode (no center) then switching to just the mains. I did this a lot back in the day and ended up just going without a center (The center for the RC series was too expensive ($600 and no deals versus the others where I found great deals) back when I was looking.). So for me, tryin another line in the Energy offerings just made it sound a little muddy when mix matching the center with the mains.

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Old 05-19-2010, 04:13 PM   #1854
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hello all,

any reviews on this center speaker http://nanaimo.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-s...AdIdZ203838445

will it match my c-100 okay?
did you PM MaCruz yet? He was selling a C-C50, and that would work well with your C-100s

Or check ebay.
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Do the RC-10's come shipped in single speaker boxes or two RC-10's to a box?
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:42 PM   #1856
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Do the RC-10's come shipped in single speaker boxes or two RC-10's to a box?
When I got mine I seem to remember them coming in with 2 in a single box.
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Old 05-19-2010, 06:47 PM   #1857
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Vann's is trying to tell me NOT to use an RC-10 as a center but to get a real center channel like the RC-LCR. This doesn't sound right to me? Wouldn't it be better to have all 7 speakers match? Plus I have the room to have the center RC-10 upright.

EDIT: this is what they just told me: "Centers are uniquely designed to project an even sound from the middle, the only way it would be superior is if you ran the center channel signal to an amp and then ran 2 centers". "a single driver will not have enough range to fulfill the requirements of the center channel signal."

EDIT: Posted this in the audio theory and discussion thread and had it answered. I will try to acquire 7 RC-10's. Looks like I'll have to buy 4 pairs though and just store or sell the extra one.

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Old 05-19-2010, 07:35 PM   #1858
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EDIT: Posted this in the audio theory and discussion thread and had it answered. I will try to acquire 7 RC-10's. Looks like I'll have to buy 4 pairs though and just store or sell the extra one.
Not that I don't trust it (more out of curiosity), what was the response you got from that posting?

*EDIT* Never mind, I just read it.

I would have thought that a timbre-matched center channel speaker would be the way to go but the logic makes sense. At $350 a pair, that's a pretty good deal too! Let us know how it sounds.

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Vann's is trying to tell me NOT to use an RC-10 as a center but to get a real center channel like the RC-LCR. This doesn't sound right to me? Wouldn't it be better to have all 7 speakers match? Plus I have the room to have the center RC-10 upright.

EDIT: this is what they just told me: "Centers are uniquely designed to project an even sound from the middle, the only way it would be superior is if you ran the center channel signal to an amp and then ran 2 centers". "a single driver will not have enough range to fulfill the requirements of the center channel signal."

EDIT: Posted this in the audio theory and discussion thread and had it answered. I will try to acquire 7 RC-10's. Looks like I'll have to buy 4 pairs though and just store or sell the extra one.
What the rep at Vann's said is pure BS... Glad some others already confirmed this for you as well.

And running 2 centers is a dumb idea for various reasons.
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Not that I don't trust it (more out of curiosity), what was the response you got from that posting?

*EDIT* Never mind, I just read it.

I would have thought that a timbre-matched center channel speaker would be the way to go but the logic makes sense. At $350 a pair, that's a pretty good deal too! Let us know how it sounds.
The ideal is an identical front three, at the same height, properly spaced apart, equidistant from the listening position.

No matter how well speakers in a series are timbre matched, they will never be a perfect match. The RC-10 and RC-LCR have slightly different sonic signatures.

Center channels are a design compromise to allow horizontal placement above/below the tv/screen. But there are some advantages as well... The horizontal array allows for more drivers, usually providing increased sensitivity and better power handling. The biggest drawbacks to the horizontal array include the issues of off-axis lobing (the severity depending on the design), and it not being a perfect match to the L/R mains.
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