The Official Arrow Video Thread

[CrockettandTubbs]

Originally Posted by CriterionBlues

This arrived in the US today. I honestly didn't expect the Yoshida set yet. The Wajda was part of my Audition pre-order, all with bonus points. I love Arrow!

Really impressed with Ashes and Diamonds - I think it's my only Polish film on blu ray. Here's hoping Arrow Academy or MoC release Wajda's Danton.

[shadedpain4]

Originally Posted by CriterionBlues

This arrived in the US today. I honestly didn't expect the Yoshida set yet. The Wajda was part of my Audition pre-order, all with bonus points. I love Arrow!

Sweet! I didn't know how long it would take to get the states, but now I'll be on the lookout. I also just got my Battles shipping notice so there is lots of Arrow goodness in my immediate future.

[CriterionBlues]

Originally Posted by shadedpain4

Sweet! I didn't know how long it would take to get the states, but now I'll be on the lookout. I also just got my Battles shipping notice so there is lots of Arrow goodness in my immediate future.

I just got that too. With that and Rivette on its way, I'm going to be kicking my family out of the house for the holidays.

[Polaroid]

Arrow has messed up my Yoshida delivery now.

I went to cancel it as I managed to get elsewhere for better price, site says AT WAREHOUSE but they claim it has been delivered yet I have received nothing...

They are doing my head in...

I have 3 other preorder with them as well and scared they will mess those up now. No idea why I'm having such bad luck with them, yes I changed may address but they confirmed it would all be sent to new address and they BLACK CATS fine, although it did come damaged...

I definitely feel like my avatar right now.

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Do we know if the Battles set is selling well? It is on my list, but the just-announced Fassbinder set has knocked it down a bit. I'd hate to miss out but I might need to wait until December to pick it up.

[ijustblumyself]

Arrow are KILLING it. Fassbinder is one of the masters.

[gap]

Originally Posted by MichaelB

I think they recently said it was 60% gone.

Thanks Michael.

Fassbinder set ordered. Now I only have to find money for Yoshida, Rivette and Battles...

[Myshkin]

Battles dispatch email.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by tenia

I thought of Gaumont’s problematic releases indeed (but also of the recent BD of Marriage Italian Style, whose 4K restoration has similar black levels issues).

However, my original question aimed at the warmer color timing rather than the black levels.

I’m quite certain you can have a warmer color timing without affecting black levels (or the other way around, Marriage Italian Style new BD doesn’t have a warm color timing on BD for instance, but have a debatable black levels handling), which is why I'm wondering to what resource you're comparing the BD color timing to.

You are mixing up a lot of things here

The problem isn't that you have warm(er) color tonalities, it is how they are introduced. If they are part of the original cinematography, the image has different characteristics. If they have digital roots, the image again has different characteristics. It is why you are seeing other anomalies here. This cannot possibly be accurate -- it is a digital interpretation:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/scree...02&position=21

If one goes in and adjusts only select color values in a sequence, then the effect would be different. What you have here is a complete regrading job, an across-the-board shift in color values, and it is a very strong one.

Blacks: There is an unfortunate myth on the internet that blacks have to be "inky". Nothing really could be further from the truth. Some reviewers have invented this imaginary rule that all blacks have to be "inky" so that films look in a certain way when they watch them on their TVs.

Henri Alekan, one of your greatest cinematographers, was incredibly effective with these nuances. His early black-and-white films are available in France. Study them.

Marriage Italian Style: Read above. Surf Film's 4K restoration is very, very good, and it is easy to tell. You are also omitting a very important fact: This restoration comes from a first generation intermediate -- the best surviving element -- and the end result is a reconstruction. So, there are fluctuations, but they are different fluctuations, and their roots are NOT digital.

You should also see Surf Fim/CSC-Cineteca Nazionale's 4K restoration of Scola's A Special Day. It is also magnificent. In fact, it is a perfect example for this post because the film does have a very warm color scheme, but the image has the proper characteristics.

Pro-B

[Anthony Thorne]

Just ordered the Fassbinder box. Hey, it's only money.

Off that topic I did a mental calculation (which might be way off base). How much does it cost to print one of Arrow's regular sized full color booklets? A dollar or two? And how many copies do they reprint when they replicate a new batch of the title to replenish stock? Several hundred? A thousand? And - finally - how many titles do they now have in their growing back catalogue, all of which would individually cost 700 (or 1000) x $1 or so every time they run off another batch of those booklets? Eighty, ninety or a hundred releases or so?

I might be off but with Arrow's ever-expanding catalogue size it feels like it would eventually take close to the entire Kickstarter amount (over $100,000) over a couple of years just to maintain the back run of those booklets within each case - a good number of which are likely skipped over or ignored by many of the customers - and that same amount could be more productively spent on acquiring new releases. I might be off somewhere with the figures but I'm guessing the logic with the booklets was something along those lines.

[Torrente]

Only problem is if they keep releasing more and more movies like you're suggesting, we won't be able to keep up

[darkness2918]

Just got Demons 1 & 2 from Amazon UKs 2 for £10 Salem. Haven't seen them in a long time so looking to watching them as well as Phenomena which came from Arrow. That one I've never seen before. Starting out to be a great weekend for movie watching for me

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by CrockettandTubbs

Better not mention I want a

[Show spoiler]Ginger Snaps

trilogy boxset

Am I the only person who found that film absolutely awful?

[darkness2918]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

Am I the only person who found that film absolutely awful?

The first one was very good, second one was only ok & the third one was just bad.

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by darkness2918

The first one was very good, second one was only ok & the third one was just bad.

Looking at it in 2015 it feels very dated, and you can tell they didn't have the best budget. The werewolf animatronics are just awful. And a little too cliche even if it tries to be subversive.

[Ste7en]

Originally Posted by Myshkin

Battles dispatch email.

Same here. But the Mrs has decided it is my Christmas present

[fuzzymctiger]

Originally Posted by Ste7en

Same here. But the Mrs has decided it is my Christmas present

My Battles, Rivette AND Hellraiser are all going away as Christmas presents

[darkness2918]

Originally Posted by fuzzymctiger

My Battles, Rivette AND Hellraiser are all going away as Christmas presents

My Battles set is the 1 present I get to open early

[BAKA]

Loving the long early bird window, detesting the 1,000 print run. I'm not hugely versed on Fassbinder, so the book would be essential to me too. Hopefully it won't sell out for a month and 2 days at least...

[thewerepuppygrr]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

Am I the only person who found that film absolutely awful?

The first one is brilliant. Hell, I enjoyed the second and third ones as well but as a teenage monster movie, GS is one of the pinnacles.