2025-2026 College Football Thread

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by supersix4

See while their ranking says they deserves a shot. I just don't think they've done enough, but thats just me. In all honesty I would be quite intrigued to see them play some good SEC schools, and even some Big 10 schools and see how they do against them. Hopefully that happens, and they really show they deserve to be there and don't need OT and some gimmick stuff to pull out a win like the did against Oklahoma, or just get destroyed like OSU did when they were #1 playing marginal teams and then met Florida in the NC game.




I agree I just wish we had a playoff so we could get all the SEC, Big12 teams, and a then a few from the Big10, Pac-10 and a couple of these tiny schools.

Here ya go. Boise St. against SEC schools:

2000 - 10-2 record - lost to Arkansas 38-31
2001- 8-4 record - lost to South Carolina 32-13
2002 - 12-1 record - lost to Arkansas 41-14
2005 - 9-4 record - lost to Georgia 48-13

That's 0-4 all-time with an average loss of 24 points per game. Their record is equally as bad against other BCS conference schools. They usually play 1 Pac-10 team each year and almost always lose badly.

[fatediesel]

The head of the BCS was on the Loose Cannons radio show about 20 minutes ago and he was defending the BCS because in our current system every game is huge and for the most part you are out of the national title conversation with one loss. He was saying this is why college football is so much better than basketball where losses aren't really huge. I agree to a point that it's awesome how every game is huge but I'd still like to see an 8 team playoff that would guarantee undefeated teams like Boise or TCU would at least get a shot at the title.

I'm still mad that the BCS wimped out last year and rigged it so Boise and TCU played each other rather than having them play other teams like Florida, Iowa, Cincinnati or Georgia Tech. They were afraid though that if Boise and TCU both won there would be added pressure to go to a playoff system so they forced the Fiesta Bowl to take both Boise and TCU rather than Iowa, who is who they would have loved to take.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

The head of the BCS was on the Loose Cannons radio show about 20 minutes ago and he was defending the BCS because in our current system every game is huge and for the most part you are out of the national title conversation with one loss. He was saying this is why college football is so much better than basketball where losses aren't really huge. I agree to a point that it's awesome how every game is huge but I'd still like to see an 8 team playoff that would guarantee undefeated teams like Boise or TCU would at least get a shot at the title.

I'm still mad that the BCS wimped out last year and rigged it so Boise and TCU played each other rather than having them play other teams like Florida, Iowa, Cincinnati or Georgia Tech. They were afraid though that if Boise and TCU both won there would be added pressure to go to a playoff system so they forced the Fiesta Bowl to take both Boise and TCU rather than Iowa, who is who they would have loved to take.

Cincinnati was honestly no better than Boise or TCU last year. Even Boise vs. Cincinnati probably would have been a 50-50 tossup. The Big East is a terrible conference these days.

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Here ya go. Boise St. against SEC schools:

2000 - 10-2 record - lost to Arkansas 38-31
2001- 8-4 record - lost to South Carolina 32-13
2002 - 12-1 record - lost to Arkansas 41-14
2005 - 9-4 record - lost to Georgia 48-13

That's 0-4 all-time with an average loss of 24 points per game. Their record is equally as bad against other BCS conference schools. They usually play 1 Pac-10 team each year and almost always lose badly.

And Chris Peterson wasn't Boise's head coach for any of those games. Boise didn't truly take the next step until Peterson took over and led them to 2 BCS bowl wins. I'm not saying Boise could have beat Alabama last year, but I at least wish we could have seen them play Florida.

You are flat out wrong saying they usually lose badly to the Pac-10 though. They beat Oregon State this year. Last year they beat Oregon, who ended up going to the Rose Bowl, and in 2008 they beat an Oregon team that ended the year 10-3 and ranked 10th. In 2007 they lost to Washington but in 2006 beat Oregon State. That means in Chris Peterson's tenure they are 4-1 versus the Pac-10

[Moviefan1203]

Source - http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...70202/24901290

Citing anonymous sources, the New York Post is reporting that the Big East is interested in adding TCU.

Forget the geographic ramifications. TCU plays in the Mountain West Conference, but is nowhere near mountains in the west. The Big East is probably willing to do anything, including adding a school from Texas, to keep itself relevant. The names of Temple and Villanova have already been tossed around as future additions, at least in football.

That said, I guess this makes some sort of sense if the Big East believes it can add a market in Dallas-Fort Worth. TCU basketball is, at best, struggling. Both entities, TCU and the Big East, would be desperate to have access to an automatic BCS bowl berth in the future. That would be a heck of commute, though, for the Rutgers volleyball team.

A message left for TCU AD Chris Del Conte was not immediately returned

The Big East has to do something, and I applaud their efforts but TCU makes no sense. While TCU is a ways from the rest of the Mountain West teams, it makes much better geographic sense than being in the Big East. Besides the Mountain West is getting stronger with Boise State, Nevada, and Fresno State joining up.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

Source - http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...70202/24901290



The Big East has to do something, and I applaud their efforts but TCU makes no sense. While TCU is a ways from the rest of the Mountain West teams, it makes much better geographic sense than being in the Big East. Besides the Mountain West is getting stronger with Boise State, Nevada, and Fresno State joining up.

Isn't Villanova just I-AA in football? That seems like an awefully big jump.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Isn't Villanova just I-AA in football? That seems like an awefully big jump.

Well they are a very good FCS team, and I think they would be alright in the Big East. It's a very wealthy private school, and I think they could compete within a few years. It didn't take UConn very long until they became a respectable FBS team when they made the jump. (Although they didn't jump right into a big conference) But then again, it's just the Big East.

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

The Big East has to do something, and I applaud their efforts but TCU makes no sense. While TCU is a ways from the rest of the Mountain West teams, it makes much better geographic sense than being in the Big East. Besides the Mountain West is getting stronger with Boise State, Nevada, and Fresno State joining up.

I don't know why TCU would accept an invitation from the Big East if invited. It would be a huge burden on their non-football schools, and the Mountain West has already shown with BYU that they aren't willing to let anyone leave their conference in football and stay in the other sports. I also believe that within a few years the Big 12 or Pac-10 could invite TCU to join their leagues, which fits better geographically.

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Isn't Villanova just I-AA in football? That seems like an awefully big jump.

They are the defending national champions in FCS and are currently ranked second in FCS. The big concern with Villanova is that it's stadium only seats 12,500 people. That is extremely small for an FBS team. It is possible Villanova could play at the Eagles stadium or somewhere else larger. The one reason Villanova could choose to decline a Big East invitation is because of the added costs. If they moved from FCS to FBS they would have to add 22 football scholarships and 2 new women's sports for Title IX compliance.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

The system we have isn't fair, I'll agree. But what would be more unfair, leaving a 1-loss SEC team out of the title game or an undefeated Boise team? You have to factor in strength of schedule and any 1-loss SEC team is goingto better than Boise by a mile.

No doubt about it - the current system sucks for teams like Boise State and TCU. It also sucks, however, for a good 1-loss team in other conferences who play tough schedules.

I know, I know "it's not Boise State's fault - no one will play them". That's B.S. Teams play them, they just don't want to have to pay for the "privilege".

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

I know, I know "it's not Boise State's fault - no one will play them". That's B.S. Teams play them, they just don't want to have to pay for the "privilege".

You've got to remember that college football is a business and at a school like Boise the football team is probably the only sport that is self-supporting. They get very little money from their conference (compared to BCS conference teams) so they have to make as much money as possible during the non-conference schedule. While they'd love to play all big boys it isn't economically feasible to play Nebraska for $500,000 when they can play Wyoming and Toledo at home and make over $1 million. They'd gladly play a home and home series with any of the big boys but no team from a BCS conference outside the Pac-10 would agree to that. They also will gladly play any BCS conference team for a fair price, and you can't argue $1 million is unfair considering lower profile teams can get that much and it's a guaranteed nationally televised showcase game that will likely get ESPN Gameday at your campus.

[Chordata]

I'm just tired of the "no one will play us" attitude. It is not all about their supposed superior skill. It's also about travel, schedule flexibility, etc. etc.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

I'm just tired of the "no one will play us" attitude. It is not all about their supposed superior skill. It's also about travel, schedule flexibility, etc. etc.

Even Texas and UMD(oh and we make less profit then Boise) can agree on games so I don't buy it either.

Originally Posted by fatediesel

While they'd love to play all big boys it isn't economically feasible to play Nebraska for $500,000 when they can play Wyoming and Toledo at home and make over $1 million.

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/201...tead-of-trees/

I can't buy that since based on that info they are making a 3.15 million dollar profit (and yeah while its no SEC school its still profit). Thats better then 11 BCS schools, so I don't buy into the they are so tiny and need every cent they can get and thats why they can't go to UGA, BAMA, OSU, Florida, Texas, exc. for only 1 or 2 games.

If they were so confident go play Bama, Texas, or Florida for free whip their butts like they think they can do to everyone and watch even more revenue roll in. I personally think they like where they are they get to moan when they don't get a shot, keep playing subpar schools and watching their revenue rise. If they go get stomped on I bet they could start losing revenue.

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by supersix4

I can't buy that since based on that info they are making a 3.15 million dollar profit (and yeah while its no SEC school its still profit). Thats better then 11 BCS schools, so I don't buy into the they are so tiny and need every cent they can get and thats why they can't go to UGA, BAMA, OSU, Florida, Texas, exc. for only 1 or 2 games.

The thing is the football team isn't keeping that profit, it goes to every women's sport, the basketball team, the track team, the wrestling team, and every other team, all of which are unprofitable. Most BCS schools have profitable basketball teams and receive plenty of money from their conference to cover those teams. Boise has horrible basketball teams with poor attendance.

Also, Nebraska says Boise demanded $1 million and made that seem outrageous, but had no problem paying $800,000 to Idaho, one of the worst teams in the country. Nebraska easily could have made that $200,000 difference back in TV money from ESPN since the Idaho game had no national or even regional coverage, the only way to get it outside Nebraska won on pay-per-view at $39.95 just for that game.

While I have been defending Boise that doesn't mean I think they deserve to be in the title game. In large part it's just that I'm still upset they didn't play Florida (or another great team) last year in a BCS bowl so we could finally see how they stacked up against top-tier competition. If they had won that game they would have a justifiable case for the title game this year, but if they lost we wouldn't even be having this conversation. What will probably end up happening this year is Boise goes undefeated and beats the Big East or ACC champion and we'll still have no idea how good they are.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

While I have been defending Boise that doesn't mean I think they deserve to be in the title game. In large part it's just that I'm still upset they didn't play Florida (or another great team) last year in a BCS bowl so we could finally see how they stacked up against top-tier competition.

I know I'm just saying they aren't making negative profits or like .98 profit, I wonder if they'd dare put TCU and Bosie together again if this is how the top 4 plays out Bama, OSU, Boise, TCU... I'd be mad then if we had to watch yet another Boise/TCU game (not that I'd even watch it lmao I turned last years game off at half time)

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by supersix4

I know I'm just saying they aren't making negative profits or like .98 profit, I wonder if they'd dare put TCU and Bosie together again if this is how the top 4 plays out Bama, OSU, Boise, TCU... I'd be mad then if we had to watch yet another Boise/TCU game.

I think Florida is going to beat Alabama this year, if not in the regular game then in the conference title game. Wonder what that'll do to NCAA's precious BCS rankings.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

I think Florida is going to beat Alabama this year, if not in the regular game then in the conference title game. Wonder what that'll do to NCAA's precious BCS rankings.

Have a NC game Boise v. TCU so every football fan can spend the day learning more about their families and not watching football

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by supersix4

Have a NC game Boise v. TCU so every football fan can spend the day learning more about their families and not watching football

Basically like when Tampa Bay and Oakland went to the Super Bowl, I keed I keed. Meh like anyone would watch a national title game with Maryland in it.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

Basically like when Tampa Bay and Oakland went to the Super Bowl, I keed I keed. Meh like anyone would watch a national title game with Maryland in it.

Yeah they would the bandwagon fans around here, our games sell out when they win and nobody goes when they lose.


Boise/TCU was an 8.2 rating with a better bowl game, Yet when Maryland got stomped in the Orange bowl they had a 9.5

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by supersix4

If they were so confident go play Bama, Texas, or Florida for free whip their butts like they think they can do to everyone and watch even more revenue roll in. I personally think they like where they are they get to moan when they don't get a shot, keep playing subpar schools and watching their revenue rise. If they go get stomped on I bet they could start losing revenue.

You know man, everyone was saying that about Utah a couple years ago. Remember who they beat in their bowl game? I'm pretty sure Nick Saban remembers. The truth of the matter is, the system is incredibly unfair and we won't have a true national champion until a playoff system is in place. Having said that, it's only a matter of time before we have one, I just hope we don't have to wait much longer. It's just as unfair to not let an undefeated Boise State, TCU, or Nevada have a crack at the national title as it would be to knock out Alabama if they lose to Florida Saturday night. It's a crying shame, and the fans deserve much better than this.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

You know man, everyone was saying that about Utah a couple years ago. Remember who they beat in their bowl game? I'm pretty sure Nick Saban remembers.

You mean the Bama team that was coming off a loss that would have put them in the NC game? I watched almost every game that year and the Bama team that showed up against Utah was not the same team that had just played Florida.

When your first loss gets you booted out of the NC game who cares if you have to play Utah