Killers of the Flower Moon (2023)

[baronessvonessenbeck]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

You think that’s bad wait til you find out people come to this site after being banned and starting multiple accounts to complain and troll people! It’s like, get a hobby! Step away from your computer for a second!

lol why do you assume I was banned?? this is literally my first time posting.

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by baronessvonessenbeck

lol why do you assume I was banned?? this is literally my first time posting.

I never said you were. I described people doing stuff that I think is annoying. But if you think you fit that description, then maybe you have a guilty conscious. But I don’t know, this is my first time seeing this account post.

[russweiss1]

Originally Posted by baronessvonessenbeck

lol why do you assume I was banned?? this is literally my first time posting.

The timing on this post is classic.

[MEB]

I haven't seen 'Poor Things', but my money is on Lily Gladstone for the BA Oscar.

Mark

[50strat54]

Originally Posted by MEB

I haven't seen 'Poor Things', but my money is on Lily Gladstone for the BA Oscar.

Mark

Well then you should watch Poor Things.

[dkelly26666]

Originally Posted by russweiss1

The timing on this post is classic.

Who was that socked man? That account is gone, now, too.

But who was it, originally?

[dkelly26666]

Well, I got in my Italian blu ray, and it is a thing of beauty.

Also, some other well-meaning family member knew my love of the film and thought that they were doing a service for me and ordered and gifted me a 'not official' BD of it that they got off of eBay, LOL. I do NOT recommend or endorse doing that, and I didn't. Some well-intentioned person did it for me, and I hadn't the heart to tell them, after the fact, that they shouldn't have.

I don't promote or recommend that, but I gotta say, these people have gotten AMBITIOUS with these boots, LOL. This thing has a very nice slip cover and everything, LOL. It has a slip, a blu amaray case, nice artwork (all in English) all the right official looking logos, everything. The disc itself is a BD-50, I believe. There is just a static menu with Play Movie, or Scene Selection. It has 15 chapters. It appears to be sourced from the AppleTV+ stream (BD-R, of course). Looks and sounds great, and has the forced English subs for the Osage bits.

If I didn't know better, I would have thought this was an actual, legit, Paramount release. They even have the correct font for how Paramount lists, runtime and year of release on the back. Region A. LOOKS official. I remember when you could obviously tell bootlegs were bootlegs, LOL.

Anyway, DO NOT buy one of these. Please support the film through official channels.

I got in my Italian BD from Eagle Pictures the same week. Gifted the boot Sunday, Italian BD arrived Tuesday.

So, I've got two BD physical versions of the film, now.

I will still buy an official US release whenever one is forthcoming. From Paramount, Criterion, whoever.

I've now seen the film entirely 5 times. Three times in the theater, and twice on streaming Apple. I've jumped through both BDs and just glanced here and there.

Plan to watch it soon again, on the Italian BD.

[slumcat]

Originally Posted by spanky87

Slumcat, I’m curious to know something. At what point in time did you develop a strong dislike of Leonardo DiCaprio (or was it hate at first sight?), and what do you think are his best and worst performances?

I would flip the question. I never developed a liking for him in the first place. I saw a film with him, and thought yeah he's fine. But I look around me, everyone else in the world is having orgasms. I'm like okay.

Then I watch other films. And I'm like average to below average actor. But I look around me, and the rest of the world is creaming their pants. I'm like wow - people really have lust for him or maybe they like him too much.

So its basically just that, I literally never saw any merit in him, nothing that made him stand out even remotely. But the rest of the world want to fight as to who gets to ride his balls the hardest.

Regarding his best and worst performances. I think his best might be J. Edgar. And worst might be Killers or Wolf of Wall Street. But there are many candidates.

I just find him cartoonish and buffoonish, like a massive try hard, a gigantic ham, who is screaming and shouting and overacting most of the times.

I personally don't care for that kind of performance style at all. I like best absolutely stone-faced performers, who are doing as little as possible for the camera.

[LordoftheRings]

Everyone in the world is having orgasms watching Leo?
About Lily?

[BluBonnet]

Holy....

Martin Scorsese Gifts Pope Francis With ‘Killers of The Flower Moon’ Photo Book At Vatican Meeting

[dkelly26666]

Apple CEO Tim Cook is very happy with AppleTV and salutes Martin Scorsese.

https://deadline.com/2024/02/apple-t...1907/#comments

[canucksam]

Just watched this. The story is a great one. I found the movie good, but not great. Leo has mastered DeNiro’s grumpy, rubber face (sadly). I thought, besides the face, he handled his role well. DeNiro’s role seemed liked one he has played before so nothing new there. I thought Lilly did a good job, but I don’t see how much was asked of her. Unsure about an Academy nomination for that although we do live in “special times” now. That ending……

[LordoftheRings]

Yeah, we live in a zone of interest, with those Oscars noms and voters.

Unfortunately this is not Scorsese’s year.

[stonesfan129]

I watched it on AppleTV+ a few days ago as I still have a coupon for three months free from Pizza Hut.

It wasn't bad, but I got bored after a bit because it just moves so slow. I think I would have stayed interested if it was about 30 minutes shorter.

[filmbuffTX]

I thought it was really interesting from the aspect of showing a piece of history I wasn't fully aware of. Especially with it being American history and a western. The movie is a winner just on that alone.

Good characters and performances. DiCaprio was the standout for me. A lot of people are just writing him off as being a one note villainous character, but I think he's very nuanced. He obviously loves his wife and kids. He also loves and respects his uncle, who is a very powerful influential man and the sole reason he is in the town in the first place. So he does what his uncle tells him to do. 100 years ago people were more likely to "respect their elders" and not question things and just go along with it. He's also a military veteran. So he's used to falling in line and taking orders from a "superior". You can see throughout the film how stressed and conflicted he is. He wears the stress on his face. I see him as a very sympathetic character.

[sanriel]

Originally Posted by filmbuffTX

I thought it was really interesting from the aspect of showing a piece of history I wasn't fully aware of. Especially with it being American history and a western. The movie is a winner just on that alone.

Good characters and performances. DiCaprio was the standout for me. A lot of people are just writing him off as being a one note villainous character, but I think he's very nuanced. He obviously loves his wife and kids. He also loves and respects his uncle, who is a very powerful influential man and the sole reason he is in the town in the first place. So he does what his uncle tells him to do. 100 years ago people were more likely to "respect their elders" and not question things and just go along with it. He's also a military veteran. So he's used to falling in line and taking orders from a "superior". You can see throughout the film how stressed and conflicted he is. He wears the stress on his face. I see him as a very sympathetic character.

I agree with everything except the last one. I had no sympathy for him.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by sanriel

I agree with everything except the last one. I had no sympathy for him.

As the character in the film no. But as an accomplished actor of high caliber taking the role we cannnot escape the fact. Too bad he wasn’t nominated for an Oscar ... next time.

[dancerslegs]

Originally Posted by filmbuffTX

I thought it was really interesting from the aspect of showing a piece of history I wasn't fully aware of. Especially with it being American history and a western. The movie is a winner just on that alone.

Good characters and performances. DiCaprio was the standout for me. A lot of people are just writing him off as being a one note villainous character, but I think he's very nuanced. He obviously loves his wife and kids. He also loves and respects his uncle, who is a very powerful influential man and the sole reason he is in the town in the first place. So he does what his uncle tells him to do. 100 years ago people were more likely to "respect their elders" and not question things and just go along with it. He's also a military veteran. So he's used to falling in line and taking orders from a "superior". You can see throughout the film how stressed and conflicted he is. He wears the stress on his face. I see him as a very sympathetic character.

Can't get onboard with "sympathetic". But the character is recognizably human. Which is more than what most movies manage to do with a character like Ernest Burkhart.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by dancerslegs

Can't get onboard with "sympathetic". But the character is recognizably human. Which is more than what most movies manage to do with a character like Ernest Burkhart.

He is human, but he's also not a particularly interesting person. Once you know he has no backbone, there's not much more you need to know about him.

[dancerslegs]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

He is human, but he's also not a particularly interesting person. Once you know he has no backbone, there's not much more you need to know about him.

The cognitive dissonance of the character is what's interesting about him. He actually believes he's a loving family man, while also

[Show spoiler]slowly poisoning his wife to death.

Human beings are often masses of contradictions and the rationalizations and mental gymnastics we perform to try to reconcile them are maddening and fascinating in about equal measure.

Real-world participants in atrocities against our species far more often resemble Ernest Burkhart than they do, say, Adolf Hitler or Ed Kemper. You may or may not find that food for interesting thought.