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Old 08-07-2018, 02:45 AM   #1961
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Hey Olivier, nice to hear from you!

You still got the C30's up and running? I had a listen to the C20's and the Special 40's side by side when I stopped by my dealer's a while ago. Contour's are a fantastic speaker, but the S40's are really fun to listen to also!

I figured that I may not see too much of an improvement from the X14's with a power amp, over what the MRX520 is already doing. But I think it's always a chance it will open things up and improve the soundstage a bit, and I also plan at some point to maybe upgrade the front L/R maybe to some S40's possibly or we'll see what Dyn comes out with in the next few years, so a power amp will come in handy down the road too.

I realize the PVA series is not quite the same level as the Parasound 5250, but I was more worried about the overall presentation each amp would give than the total power output of each. And PVA was a pretty sweet deal too.

Seems like it's a good Idea to stick with Anthem, Parasound may seem a bit more mellow/smoother than I like... but I think you're right, I will keep looking around on CAM and online to see what I can find. There was a NAD M25 for $1500 CDN a while ago, maybe I should have jumped on that, but I think NAD is again too smooth and darker sounding than I want. I've heard that Krell is an impressive and lively amp too, but so pricey
Look for Either A5 Anthem or Bryston 9B SST, both are super neutral and Bryston is used by professional studios. I like my Naim gear for Music

I am sure you can find a 9B-SST not the ST as the SST is a great deal better and if you find a price you like on the 9B-SST² as then jump on it

AAs for the 9B there is a 3 channel version and a 5 channel version. I would say not so bad to only run 3 channels and leave the surrounds powered by the Receiver. There is also the 3 channel 6b-SST or 6B-SST² for more power but also more money than the 9B-SST or SST².

Glad you heard the C-20 and the Special Forty. I am thinking to get a pair of Special 40 maybe. Most Dynaudio Owners agree the C-20 is a great deal better than Special 40 but I mean i own the C-30 so why go for the same speaker when you can have different sound signatures, I like changing speakers from time tot time, Right now I Enjoy the Fires, They are truly wonderful speakers
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Old 08-13-2018, 06:14 AM   #1962
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Look for Either A5 Anthem or Bryston 9B SST, both are super neutral and Bryston is used by professional studios. I like my Naim gear for Music

I am sure you can find a 9B-SST not the ST as the SST is a great deal better and if you find a price you like on the 9B-SST² as then jump on it

AAs for the 9B there is a 3 channel version and a 5 channel version. I would say not so bad to only run 3 channels and leave the surrounds powered by the Receiver. There is also the 3 channel 6b-SST or 6B-SST² for more power but also more money than the 9B-SST or SST².

Glad you heard the C-20 and the Special Forty. I am thinking to get a pair of Special 40 maybe. Most Dynaudio Owners agree the C-20 is a great deal better than Special 40 but I mean i own the C-30 so why go for the same speaker when you can have different sound signatures, I like changing speakers from time tot time, Right now I Enjoy the Fires, They are truly wonderful speakers

Yeah, I bet those Fires are amazing!

Thanks for your input on the amps,... a Bryston amp of any kind would be amazing, so I will keep looking to see of one of them or an upper level Anthem pops up on the used market near me. I think I'd end up pretty happy with either!
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Old 12-30-2018, 06:09 AM   #1963
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Hello at the all and Happy New Year

In the meantime I'm still undecided to choose the model Excite X14 active or the passive model, I'm worried about the proximity to the walls and perhaps the Excite X14A could be more indicated in my case it seems that this model was designed for use in nearfield, but there is always a compromise, however, if I choose to go for an active solution I have to give up any future update of the speakers or amplifier, and also I think that using the Excite passive can get a sonically better quality as I think that digital DSP processing takes away a bit of life and naturalness from music compared to a more analogous scenery. I think that with separate components I could have better results and reach a level of reproduction more credible and less artificial, however my assumptions may also be incorrect having had very few listening experiences mine are just the feelings dictated by what I read between the audiophile people.

Thanks for your time that you dedicate to me and for your support
Hello everyone and welcome greetings for happy holidays. A few months ago I asked for some tips for my first desktop setup hifi but then I have not finalized the purchase yet for some doubts about the choice. The entry level model Emit M10 is very attractive for the excellent quality / price ratio. The Excite X14 seems more ideal for near-field listening because of its smaller cabinet and the presence of the active X14A model makes me think that even the passive model can offer better performance in desktop use than the Emit M10 . The attractive price of the Emit series and the recommendations of various reviewers make me go towards this solution, but I still have doubts about near-field performance. What do you think?

For my office of 16m² and the proximity to the rear walls I also thought of some speakers with a less pronounced bass reproduction like the Piega TMicro 40 AMT and Martin Logan Motion 15. I remind you that in my configuration I will also use a subwoofer.
Some people say that this type of tweeter having a higher speed than the woofer does not integrate perfectly and at a close distance of listening it is easy to distinguish the sound coming from the two units. Another project that could work well in the nearfield is the concentric, but I think the Kef sound too bright is not my favorite. Probably a soft dome solution is the best compromise.

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Old 12-31-2018, 03:35 PM   #1964
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Hello everyone and welcome greetings for happy holidays. A few months ago I asked for some tips for my first desktop setup hifi but then I have not finalized the purchase yet for some doubts about the choice. The entry level model Emit M10 is very attractive for the excellent quality / price ratio. The Excite X14 seems more ideal for near-field listening because of its smaller cabinet and the presence of the active X14A model makes me think that even the passive model can offer better performance in desktop use than the Emit M10 . The attractive price of the Emit series and the recommendations of various reviewers make me go towards this solution, but I still have doubts about near-field performance. What do you think?

For my office of 16m² and the proximity to the rear walls I also thought of some speakers with a less pronounced bass reproduction like the Piega TMicro 40 AMT and Martin Logan Motion 15. I remind you that in my configuration I will also use a subwoofer.
Some people say that this type of tweeter having a higher speed than the woofer does not integrate perfectly and at a close distance of listening it is easy to distinguish the sound coming from the two units. Another project that could work well in the nearfield is the concentric, but I think the Kef sound too bright is not my favorite. Probably a soft dome solution is the best compromise.

Thanks for your support
M10 and X-14 are moreless the same size (W x H x D) 6.7 x 11.5 x 10in for M10 and 6.7 x 11.1 x 10.3in for the X-14

You have an even more expensive option now with the Evoke 10 7.1x12.4x10.9in slightly bigger than the other 2.

All 3 options will be good near field as they are all narrow and have excellent imaging, you can also toe in slightly he sound more towards you and the soundstage will be pretty big.

Both being bass reflex you will lose some bass in nearfiled and will rolloff rather quickly below 100hz but by plugging the port with the foam that comes with them that will provide the best result actually for nearfield and rolloff will be as it should naturally be.

I use to have X-12 in my office setup Sounded great.

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Old 01-01-2019, 06:46 PM   #1965
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M10 and X-14 are moreless the same size (W x H x D) 6.7 x 11.5 x 10in for M10 and 6.7 x 11.1 x 10.3in for the X-14

You have an even more expensive option now with the Evoke 10 7.1x12.4x10.9in slightly bigger than the other 2.

All 3 options will be good near field as they are all narrow and have excellent imaging, you can also toe in slightly he sound more towards you and the soundstage will be pretty big.

Both being bass reflex you will lose some bass in nearfiled and will rolloff rather quickly below 100hz but by plugging the port with the foam that comes with them that will provide the best result actually for nearfield and rolloff will be as it should naturally be.

I use to have X-12 in my office setup Sounded great.
Thanks BigAl87 for your encouraging advice yes the new Evoke model would be a choice for an important investment in the years to come, I will also consider this alternative, I think any dynaudio model is a good choice
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I'm going to combine the speakers with the new Audiolab 6000A amplifier would be a good match?

Thanks for help and happy new year
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I'm going to combine the speakers with the new Audiolab 6000A amplifier would be a good match?

Thanks for help and happy new year
Class AB amp should sound great with them 50 wpc at 8 ohms 75wpc at 4 ohms, I see no problems and for the most part Dynaudio are neutral so I see no reason why it should not sound natural. Not to mention Dynaudio are not hard on amps as many would believe the opposite, reason for that is they have a pretty flat impedance curve and the contributes to always have natural sound without undesired resonances in the high frequencies.


Thanks you and Happy new year to you too

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Old 01-03-2019, 02:19 PM   #1968
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Great! Thank you I have not yet had the opportunity to listen to a speaker of this kind, from your description it seems that the Dynaudio in general is a very well-designed project, where cabinet, driver and crossover integrate into a single solid and inert unit, this I assume turns into faster response times of transients, linearity in frequencies and minimal disturbances of unwanted resonances, probably that's why many people adopt Dynaudio even in the near-field.
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Great! Thank you I have not yet had the opportunity to listen to a speaker of this kind, from your description it seems that the Dynaudio in general is a very well-designed project, where cabinet, driver and crossover integrate into a single solid and inert unit, this I assume turns into faster response times of transients, linearity in frequencies and minimal disturbances of unwanted resonances, probably that's why many people adopt Dynaudio even in the near-field.

Well you can always go with their pro series specifically designed for NF. You would not need an external amp for them but it is using a class D amp rather than AB.

A lot of studios uses the Dynaudio Pro Series actually.

https://www.dynaudio.com/professional-audio/lyd/lyd-5
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I have also made these considerations but the only reason I did not pay attention to one of the speakers in the professional dynaudio series is that in general the studio monitor sound does not transmit all the emotions of a speaker for hifi use, I prefer the charm of the imperfection to the coldness of an analysis

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I have also made these considerations but the only reason I did not pay attention to one of the speakers in the professional dynaudio series is that in general the studio monitor sound does not transmit all the emotions of a speaker for hifi use, I prefer the charm of the imperfection to the coldness of an analysis

Thanks again for the advice
understood they usually sound very linear adn quite clinical

Most Dynaudio try to stay true too the source but not hiding their is some rolloff or enmphasis on certain frquencies at times. The Contours for instance they have a nice high frequency rollf which makes them easy on the ears.
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Good morning one of the main reasons that led me to choose the Dynaudio is their lack of sibilants and hardness in the mid-high frequencies, for my tinnitus the high frequencies represent a problem.
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hi to all and good Sunday

I'm continuing some research and on amazon the XEO 4 model at a special price of € 1.000, with this solution I would avoid other extra expenses for the separate amplifier, dac and cables, but as compared to the XEO 4 with the Excite X14, it could be a better solution than the XEO 4 for a desktop environment?
I'm curious to know the difference in terms of sound between Excite X14 and XEO 4.

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hi to all and good Sunday

I'm continuing some research and on amazon the XEO 4 model at a special price of € 1.000, with this solution I would avoid other extra expenses for the separate amplifier, dac and cables, but as compared to the XEO 4 with the Excite X14, it could be a better solution than the XEO 4 for a desktop environment?
I'm curious to know the difference in terms of sound between Excite X14 and XEO 4.

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I will help you in private Saiph
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Still a happy Dyn owner here after these few years of ownership, they still impress me daily

I must admit though the new Evoke series have been on my mind for a while now. The upgrades and trickle down tech in them is intriguing, and I wonder how much they're improved over the Excite's. I think they were supposed to be available in April sometime, but my dealer has not received any as of yet
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Still a happy Dyn owner here after these few years of ownership, they still impress me daily

I must admit though the new Evoke series have been on my mind for a while now. The upgrades and trickle down tech in them is intriguing, and I wonder how much they're improved over the Excite's. I think they were supposed to be available in April sometime, but my dealer has not received any as of yet
I have not heard them but I hear great things about them, they are supposed to be less tipped up than the excite for which i felt they were not as much as the older Focus, i would think they sound closer to a pair of Contour With high frequency rolloff.

The speaker i smooth yet detailed and is apparently a new reference in their price point.
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I have not heard them but I hear great things about them, they are supposed to be less tipped up than the excite for which i felt they were not as much as the older Focus, i would think they sound closer to a pair of Contour With high frequency rolloff.

The speaker i smooth yet detailed and is apparently a new reference in their price point.

Hey Olivier, nice to hear from you

It does seem like most people are enjoying the Evoke line, and as you say it's probably close to a Contour sound signature. I like a bit more treble energy myself, so they may not be quite my speed... but I will still keep stopping by my dealer's whenever I get the chance and try to get in a listen. Always nice to hear something new from Dyn's. You must be still loving your Contours hey?

So you found the old Focus line (110's, 220's, 200C) to be more tipped up and forward than the newer Excite line??
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Found a used first gen Focus 200C center channel for a pretty decent price... considering upgrading to it from my small Excite center channel.

I think it would be a nice upgrade in midrange and treble performance as well as having more output and fullness with the 5.9" drivers over the Excite 4.33" drivers...
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Hey Olivier, nice to hear from you

It does seem like most people are enjoying the Evoke line, and as you say it's probably close to a Contour sound signature. I like a bit more treble energy myself, so they may not be quite my speed... but I will still keep stopping by my dealer's whenever I get the chance and try to get in a listen. Always nice to hear something new from Dyn's. You must be still loving your Contours hey?

So you found the old Focus line (110's, 220's, 200C) to be more tipped up and forward than the newer Excite line??
Actually I meant the 160 and 260, now discontinued and so are the Excites now.

That line of Focus was more forward than the Excites old or last line of Excites for sure.

Still enjoying those Contours for sure, I mean they are not exactly dull to listen too, So revealing but smooth at the same time. You would like them Contours i am sure.
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Found a used first gen Focus 200C center channel for a pretty decent price... considering upgrading to it from my small Excite center channel.

I think it would be a nice upgrade in midrange and treble performance as well as having more output and fullness with the 5.9" drivers over the Excite 4.33" drivers...
that would be a nice move for sure.
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