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Mister_Kidd · 09-15-2020, 06:42 PM

**** Criterion is weak. Is that their thing now, let another label release a 4k disc then release the same movie on BD? I might put my Arrow Crash next to my Studio Canal Elephant Man.

Fingers crossed Criterion has a Big Trouble in Little China BD planned.

PBateman87 · 09-15-2020, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

If Criterion are trying for more representation, maybe they should focus on indie titles from bipoc individuals. Medicine for Melancholy is a cheap indie film that should instead be on the label.

In that recent New York Times article about African-American representation in the Criterion Collection, Peter Becker said that Medicine for Melancholy is something they hope to add in the future: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/21/m...ollection.html And he confirmed Gordon Parks' The Learning Tree (1969) as one that should be coming out next year sometime.

perrinjuve · 09-15-2020, 06:44 PM

Great month. In for all of them especially Amores Perros. Gonna skip Crash though as I will opt for the UK 4K Arrow release instead.

DaBargainHunta · 09-15-2020, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister_Kidd

Fingers crossed Criterion has a Big Trouble in Little China BD planned.

Doubt it. This already has two previous BD releases, both excellent.

The movie is more than worthy of Criterion, but everyone who wants it has already bought it (sometimes twice).

Mister_Kidd · 09-15-2020, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBargainHunta

Doubt it. This already has two previous BD releases, both excellent.

The movie is more than worthy of Criterion, but everyone who wants it has already bought it (sometimes twice).

LOL, I was just kidding, because a Criterion release would (theoretically) mean a different label releasing a UHD.

bergman864 · 09-15-2020, 07:00 PM

I'm in for the William Greaves film(s). Like but don't love the others. As tempted as I am to wait for this release of Crash (and love the cover art). I'll buy the 4K Arrow version.

silverlakephil · 09-15-2020, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by perrinjuve

Some predictions...

After Hours - most likely will be Warner Archives (same for Eyes Wide Shut) if it ever does come to bluray in the US/UK but a guy can dream. A new Spanish bluray just dropped for it so will be curious to see that transfer and if this means a UK/US release is on the horizon.

A lot of Spanish labels like Resen are not legit, so this release is questionable.

regeyer · 09-15-2020, 07:03 PM

Will this be on page 10k? We shall see.

The Sovereign · 09-15-2020, 07:07 PM

Love the cover for Amores perros. I'm still processing on Crash.

liveandletmarblerye · 09-15-2020, 07:09 PM

Page 10,000 just 10,000 more to match the Friday the 13th Thread.

I think I'll have to go with the 4K Arrow release for Crash.

Still need to check out Bresson, he's one of those directors that has slipped past my radar. Is Mouchette a good one to start with?

DaBargainHunta · 09-15-2020, 07:16 PM

Did I miss the actual announcement post? It seems everyone just suddenly started talking about Crash. (Cronenberg's version, I hope!)

Reality check: A 4K release from another region is barely going to affect Criterion's business or bottom line. 99% of potential customers will not care.

Would it be nice for Criterion to get into the 4K game? Sure. But they're going to do that at their own time and pace, and not a single second before, just like they did with Blu-ray.

kidglov3s · 09-15-2020, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBargainHunta

Would it be nice for Criterion to get into the 4K game? Sure. But they're going to do that at their own time and pace, and not a single second before, just like they did with Blu-ray.

There was about a 2.5 year gap between the first Blu-ray and Criterion's entry. Dec will be 4.5 years for UHD. Arrow, Shout and Kino, the other major boutique labels, have started to release on the format. There's no reason to withhold discussion of this more-and-more conspicuous situation.

mande2013 · 09-15-2020, 07:36 PM

Here are some other boutique labels that haven't released 4K discs yet: BFI, Eureka, and Artificial Eye. Criterion isn't exactly alone.

DaBargainHunta · 09-15-2020, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kidglov3s

There was about a 2.5 year gap between the first Blu-ray and Criterion's entry. Dec will be 4.5 years for UHD. Arrow, Shout and Kino, the other major boutique labels, have started to release on the format. There's no reason to withhold discussion of this more-and-more conspicuous situation.

Who said anything about "withholding discussion"?

I can write a long post speculating why Criterion hasn't gone 4K yet, but it would be just that - speculation - so I won't bother because i don't actually know why.

fitprod · 09-15-2020, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBargainHunta

Reality check: A 4K release from another region is barely going to affect Criterion's business or bottom line. 99% of potential customers will not care.

Criterion is a niche label... And that niche is the die hard collector who is most likely to have 4K, it will affect their sales... But I wouldn't say 99% don't care, it's more likely 50 - 60%.

I know for me, I've skipped a lot of the recent Criterion catalog releases that were from MGM and sourced from 4K. (Princess Bride, Great Escape etc...)

Once I hear if the BD included with Arrow's 4K release of Crash is region free (obviously the 4K disc is), I'll make my purchase decision, but it's very likely I will not be buying Criterion's release... I'm not even sure if I'll buy Parasite at this point, since Universal released the 4K disc already.

I might buy The Irishman, but even on the fence about that.

fitprod

Cremildo · 09-15-2020, 07:37 PM

Eh, I already own the UK Mouchette and Amores Perros, and I might end up buying the Arrow Crash instead. Still, I'm sure these announcements made a lot of people happy.

regeyer · 09-15-2020, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by liveandletmarblerye

Page 10,000 just 10,000 more to match the Friday the 13th Thread.

I think I'll have to go with the 4K Arrow release for Crash.

Still need to check out Bresson, he's one of those directors that has slipped past my radar. Is Mouchette a good one to start with?

This is cool. Your post is the 200,000th post on the 10,000th page.

kidglov3s · 09-15-2020, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mande2013

Here are some other boutique labels that haven't released 4K discs yet: BFI, Eureka, and Artificial Eye. Criterion isn't exactly alone.

I thought it was unfair to Criterion to bring up imports. But yes this is worth mentioning.

captainron_howdy · 09-15-2020, 07:40 PM

The art on Crash is great.

iamnoone · 09-15-2020, 07:45 PM

I wish Criterion was doing 4K, too, as I'm sick of double-dipping. I have double dipped so many DVD titles that Criterion later upgraded to Blu, and I definitely don't want to have to do that all over again once/if Criterion starts upgrading their Blu's to 4K.

It makes me hesitant to buy a lot of Criterion Blus right now at all, because of the possibility they'll upgrade later. That's not good if I'm afraid to buy their upcoming Blu's at all. I call it the Blue Underground Syndrome.

And I don't expect Criterion or any label to release "everything" they put out in 4K, but we're getting some pretty BIG titles like "Crash" that deserve 4K and are getting it elsewhere. Makes no sense.

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09-15-2020, 06:42 PM	#199921
Mister_Kidd Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2019 Location:Chicago Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:210 Blu-ray collection:769 DVD collection:299	**** Criterion is weak. Is that their thing now, let another label release a 4k disc then release the same movie on BD? I might put my Arrow Crash next to my Studio Canal Elephant Man. Fingers crossed Criterion has a Big Trouble in Little China BD planned.

09-15-2020, 06:44 PM	#199923
perrinjuve Member Member since:Sep 2018 Location:Johannesburg, South Africa 4K collection:367 Blu-ray collection:2925	Great month. In for all of them especially Amores Perros. Gonna skip Crash though as I will opt for the UK 4K Arrow release instead.

09-15-2020, 07:00 PM	#199926
bergman864 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 4K collection:508 Blu-ray collection:1221 DVD collection:25 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:15	I'm in for the William Greaves film(s). Like but don't love the others. As tempted as I am to wait for this release of Crash (and love the cover art). I'll buy the 4K Arrow version.

09-15-2020, 07:03 PM	#199928
regeyer Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2009 Trading Score:3	Will this be on page 10k? We shall see.

09-15-2020, 07:07 PM	#199929
The Sovereign Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2015 4K collection:289 Blu-ray collection:3343 Trading Score:1	Love the cover for Amores perros. I'm still processing on Crash.

09-15-2020, 07:09 PM	#199930
liveandletmarblerye Active Member Member since:Sep 2018 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:271 DVD collection:40	Page 10,000 just 10,000 more to match the Friday the 13th Thread. I think I'll have to go with the 4K Arrow release for *Crash. Still need to check out Bresson, he's one of those directors that has slipped past my radar. Is Mouchette* a good one to start with?

09-15-2020, 07:16 PM	#199931
DaBargainHunta Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Parts Unknown - because I blabbed about Mars! Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:30	Did I miss the actual announcement post? It seems everyone just suddenly started talking about Crash. (Cronenberg's version, I hope!) Reality check: A 4K release from another region is barely going to affect Criterion's business or bottom line. 99% of potential customers will not care. Would it be nice for Criterion to get into the 4K game? Sure. But they're going to do that at their own time and pace, and not a single second before, just like they did with Blu-ray.

09-15-2020, 07:36 PM	#199933
mande2013 Special Member Member since:Nov 2014 Location:Paris, France 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:322	Here are some other boutique labels that haven't released 4K discs yet: BFI, Eureka, and Artificial Eye. Criterion isn't exactly alone.

09-15-2020, 07:37 PM	#199936
Cremildo Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Brazil 4K collection:165 Blu-ray collection:1051 Trading Score:51	Eh, I already own the UK Mouchette and Amores Perros, and I might end up buying the Arrow Crash instead. Still, I'm sure these announcements made a lot of people happy.

09-15-2020, 07:40 PM	#199939
captainron_howdy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2017 Location:Extreme Northern New Jersey Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:1	The art on Crash is great.

09-15-2020, 07:45 PM	#199940
iamnoone Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2012 Location:Antarctica Blu-ray collection:41 Trading Score:91	I wish Criterion was doing 4K, too, as I'm sick of double-dipping. I have double dipped so many DVD titles that Criterion later upgraded to Blu, and I definitely don't want to have to do that all over again once/if Criterion starts upgrading their Blu's to 4K. It makes me hesitant to buy a lot of Criterion Blus right now at all, because of the possibility they'll upgrade later. That's not good if I'm afraid to buy their upcoming Blu's at all. I call it the Blue Underground Syndrome. And I don't expect Criterion or any label to release "everything" they put out in 4K, but we're getting some pretty BIG titles like "Crash" that deserve 4K and are getting it elsewhere. Makes no sense.

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