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Old 11-02-2020, 10:25 PM   #501
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Some have speculated that they rented Universal's underwater rig used for Creature From the Black Lagoon (1954) and Revenge of the Creature (1955).
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Some have speculated that they rented Universal's underwater rig used for Creature From the Black Lagoon (1954) and Revenge of the Creature (1955).
Leaving no room left in the budget for a convincing rubber shark.....
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Old 11-03-2020, 12:03 AM   #503
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There is lobbycard on the link below that shows the 3-D underwater rig being handled by Lamar Boren, but I couldn’t find any info on the specific model. It doesn’t look quite the same as the rig Universal assembled. Maybe Bob or another of the 3DFA crew can advise further?

http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/september-storm

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Old 11-03-2020, 12:33 AM   #504
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There are some very clear photos of the Creature rig on 3-D Film Archives page for Creature and Revenge of. Looks bigger to me. Another possibility might be a camera rig planned for use on Underwater Adventure which is mentioned in the Golden Age section.


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Leaving no room left in the budget for a convincing rubber shark.....
... better that than the dead one from A*P*E!
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Old 11-03-2020, 12:44 AM   #505
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Sometime after September Storm was released, I found additional information on this underwater rig. Let me dig in the files tomorrow and I’ll post what I can find.
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Old 11-03-2020, 05:49 PM   #506
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From a March 30, 1960 article in Variety.

My only guess is they removed the Natural Vision rig from it's large casing and placed it in this underwater blimp acquired from RKO?

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Old 11-03-2020, 08:36 PM   #507
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Some have speculated that they rented Universal's underwater rig used for Creature From the Black Lagoon (1954) and Revenge of the Creature (1955).
I'm the one who speculated that some time ago, and I'll be the first to admit that it was wild speculation and now it looks like it was totally wrong!

But now I'm glad to have started this all over again as it seems to be bringing out some new info!

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Old 11-04-2020, 04:28 AM   #508
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The more I learn about classic 3-D films, the more I'm sorry they stopped making them. Imagine this in 3-D:




Not the most highly regarded movie by most accounts, but sometimes with 3-D, there are other selling points.

The Widescreen Museum have a section on Superscope, explaining the process, with reference to Underwater! It sound very similar to the process mentioned in the Variety article that must've been used to convert September Storm to pseudo-Cinemascope.
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Old 11-05-2020, 12:37 AM   #509
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The more I learn about classic 3-D films, the more I'm sorry they stopped making them. Imagine this in 3-D:




Not the most highly regarded movie by most accounts, but sometimes with 3-D, there are other selling points.
What other pair of selling points would that be?(LOL)
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The benefits 3-D would bring to a film like that would be substantial.
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My latest Kino order arrived, including this! Planning on watching it tonight. Excited for the bonus shorts as well.

However, I will say that I wish the Harmony Lane short did not include the restoration information title card at the beginning. It's interesting to know the first time you watch it, but after that it will be annoying to try and skip past it every time. If there was at least a chapter break, it would have been much better, so you could quickly skip it. Even more ideal would be to have it as two segments joined in a playlist. It's good to have the message on the disc, but another option would have been to print it on the blank second side of the trapsheet. It's a small matter and it might seem like a silly thing to complain about, but I'm someone who believes that all the small details are important and every small detail makes a release better, and I hope just a little more thought can be given on things like this in the future.
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Old 11-21-2020, 06:04 PM   #512
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Thanks for the suggestion and we never put text in front of a film, except for HARMONY LANE.

If it was put anywhere else in the package, most people would miss it and not understand the flat footage. We'd get hit with a barrage of complaints (my disc is defective, etc) and it would be a PR nightmare.

I would suggest you overlook the opening title and enjoy the immense rarity of that lost never-before-seen 3-D short!
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Old 11-22-2020, 02:50 AM   #513
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I've been watching some silent movies lately and quite a few of those have extensive restoration notes at the start of feature. So I wasn't mad at the restoration notes on Harmony Lane.

I am mad, sixty-plus years after the fact, at whoever left those scenes on the cutting room floor. I find it deeply ironic, that we are left with only a flat version of what by all indications would have been among the most impressive and memorable uses of 3-D in the film. Presumably because they assumed 2d audiences wouldn't want to see that. So instead 3-D viewers can only watch the clip in 2d. Oh well, at least the majority of the 3-D is intact even if they ripped out the crown jewel.

Harmony Lane is an interesting find, with a lot of effective 3-D going on. To be honest I found it rather dated and silly on first viewing, and maybe it is, but I've come back to it a few times and I enjoy it a lot more now.
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