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Old 08-16-2019, 12:51 PM   #461
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Bring back Paul Verhoeven would love to see what he can do with todays technology
Yeah but will today's audiences accept his level of blood and violence that he showed in Robocop 1? I don't mind and people who saw these types of movies in the 80's and 90's won't mind but the younger audiences won't like it or even make fun of it.
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:16 PM   #462
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So, as well as Neill not getting to do Aliens 2, he’s now not getting to do the ‘real’ Robocop 2.
We already got the real RoboCop 2 in 1990.

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Old 08-16-2019, 02:03 PM   #463
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We already got the real RoboCop 2 in 1990.

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Yeah, but the idea was that Robocop Returns would be based on the original ideas for Robocop 2, before that script was dropped and Frank Miller wrote his version of Robocop 2. This new film goes back to those original concepts that were dropped AFAIK, and is written by the original writer of Robocop, that’s why I said it could be considered the ‘real’ Robocop 2, even though the 1990 sequel is... um... also real.
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Old 08-16-2019, 04:20 PM   #464
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Shit, then he needs to get to work on the D9 sequel.
One more badly received movie and I bet that's exactly where he goes. Although D9 is, imo, one of the more overrated movies of the last 10 years.
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Old 08-19-2019, 03:19 AM   #465
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First a failed Alien follow-up, and now this. Starting to think that Neill Blomkamp is probably a gigantic pain in the a$$ to work with.
That's what I meant. He might be using the horror project as an excuse, while he might actually was let go. I have nothing to back that up, just a hunch.
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Old 08-19-2019, 04:56 AM   #466
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Blomkamp is a cool ass dude. He's not a pain in the ass to work with. Everyone that has had the opportunity to work with him has said great things about him both as a professional and as they got to know him personally. And this isn't something through reports or rumors. Neill personally sent me a prop from his short film, Yellow--and during that process, I got to speak to his assistant and producer, at length.

Neill's a perfectionist when it comes to world building. Regardless of what public opinion is on Elysium and Chappie, he doesn't mail it in. The guy takes time to make the shit that he makes. If there's a 'likely' outcome to his exit, it's that MGM mandated a schedule that didn't allow Blomkamp to refine the script and visual identity of the film before it entered production. He 'likely' ultimately decided that the horror/thriller project became more creatively rewarding for him in the long run.

Also, people need to get their facts straight on 'Alien.' He wasn't an ass to Fox at all. Ridley Scott cockblocked him when he found out that people wanted a Neill Blomkamp Alien film more than they wanted another Ridley Scott Alien film. That's the 100% truth on that.
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Old 08-19-2019, 06:44 AM   #467
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Yeah, but the idea was that Robocop Returns would be based on the original ideas for Robocop 2, before that script was dropped and Frank Miller wrote his version of Robocop 2. This new film goes back to those original concepts that were dropped AFAIK, and is written by the original writer of Robocop, that’s why I said it could be considered the ‘real’ Robocop 2, even though the 1990 sequel is... um... also real.
What were the original ideas for Robocop 2?
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Old 08-19-2019, 10:02 AM   #468
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People need to get their facts straight on 'Alien.' He wasn't an ass to Fox at all. Ridley Scott cockblocked him when he found out that people wanted a Neill Blomkamp Alien film more than they wanted another Ridley Scott Alien film. That's the 100% truth on that.
So you are saying that Scott went to Fox and said that if Blomkamp was going to do a new Alien film that they could stuff the third Prometheus film? That it was either Blomkamp's film or his?
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What were the original ideas for Robocop 2?
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Has to do with Rehabs and a Killing Robocop 2 Cyber Machine, aka a cross between pt 2/3
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Old 08-19-2019, 11:37 AM   #470
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ROBOCOP 2: CORPORATE WARS
Corporate wars, The un-used script for RoboCop 2 begins with RoboCop getting blasted into metallic dust and being resurrected many years later, in a new world. This is the story of the original sequel that was never made.

The cover sheet for Ed Neumeier's and Michael Miner's ROBOCOP 2: THE CORPORATE WARS reads: "The authors wish to apologize for any errors in judgement and/or lapses of gridlogic in this very rough draft" The warning did not seem to be enough for the development execs at Orion Pictures. After having charged the original creators of ROBOCOP with not one, but two screenplays ( the other being Oliver Stone's abortive COMPANY MAN), and laying down a deadline of December 31st 1987 for the first draft of ROBOCOP 2, the company moved fast to find a replacement when it became obvious that, despite numerous meetings devoted to developing some sort of consensus on a story, neither Miner nor Neumeier was going to toe the corporate line. In short order, Neumeier and Miner's rough draft of ROBOCOP 2 also became their last draft.

According to Neumeier one of the reasons for the success of the original ROBOCOP is that "it has a whimsical relationship with the audience. Sometimes, a rather nasty relationship. Sometimes it's really out to just **** the audience" One look at the first five pages of Neumeier and Miner's ROBOCOP 2 is all it takes to discover that the authors fully intend to continue that very special relationship with their public.

In fact, the story has barely begun before Neumeier and Miner pull off what would have been one of the most audacious mind-****s in film history, had it ever made it to the screen. Starting off in a suitable, slam-bang fashion with a group of thieves using a truck-mounted cannon to blast their way into a bank, the script no sooner has RoboCop arrive and smoke the criminals then one bad guy, with his last ounce of strength, turns the cannon on Murphy, blowing him to metallic dust. The screen goes black as Murphy's RoboVision fizzles out, then, after several seconds, lights up with a title card: 25 Years Later.

RoboCop awakens to a radically altered civilization, one where cities have been turned into self-contained "plexes" such as New York Plex, RioPlex and DelhiPlex. The privileged citizens of these communities spend their days on the LeisureGrid, munching burgers served by Food ServiceDroids or cavorting with SexBots in high-tech brothels. Those who can't afford the go-go lifestyle become OutPlexers,derelicts exiled to the limitless shantytowns that surround the cities' walls. The President of the U.S (or AmeriPlex) is a former comedian ( the more things change...), while the man calling the shots-and maneuvering to buy out the U.S government and turn it into a privately owned, corporate entity - is "super-entrepreneur" Ted Flicker.

Discovered by two of Flicker's flunkies in the ruins of the now-defunct Omni Consumer Products, RoboCop is revived, repaired, and interfaced with NeuroBrain, the plex's central computer system. Soon enough, he is entangled in the flunkies desperate grab for power, and finds himself engaged in an attempt to discredit the commander of Internal Grid Security, involved in a bloodthirsty campaign to remove defenseless OutPlexers from the city's perimeter, and finally driven to take matters into his own hands when a group of terrorists threaten the plex with a neutron bomb. Throughout, he is tinkered with by a reclusive scientist, aided by a Chinese hacker, and courted by the disembodied spirit of NeuroBrain (actually the thought impulses of the scientist's dead wife).

The script's plexes seem even more media-happy than the television-obsessed Detroit of ROBOCOP - the airwaves are filled with rapid-fire NewsBlips and commercials for mood enhancing drugs, while the major opinion-shaper of the day is a space-bred rapper named MoonDog. Yet, for all of its intriguing aspects, the script as it stands is very much what Neumeier and Miner proclaimed it to be:a rough draft. If they had been given the chance to do further work, they may have imbued the tale with the humanity it lacked, restored RoboCop to the center of the film rather than reducing him to a pawn in the hands of future-day movers and shakers, and cleared up a storyline that jumped prestige-hungry executives, power-mad terrorists, and sadistic security police in a nearly incomprehensible, internecine conflict. Of course, they never got the chance.
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Old 08-19-2019, 11:41 AM   #471
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Here you go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCo...)#Avatar_Press

Has to do with Rehabs and a Killing Robocop 2 Cyber Machine, aka a cross between pt 2/3
That's Frank Miller's original plan. The Michael Miner script is the one this new film will draw from.
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MGM can't wait. Need to shoot Robocop now.

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MGM can't wait. Need to shoot Robocop now.

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And yet - isn't this how we end up with bad films?
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And yet - isn't this how we end up with bad films?
Unfortunately so; those cretins at Lionsgate dragged their heels when making Conan 2011, and were told by Conan Properties Inc that unless they started shooting by March of that year, they would have to pay a further year's licencing fee ($1m). Lionsgate started filming without a completed script, which is why they had writer Sean Hood on set finishing up the script as they were filming.
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This is the DEFINITIVE RoboCop soundtrack for me:

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Old 08-28-2019, 04:08 PM   #476
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So you are saying that Scott went to Fox and said that if Blomkamp was going to do a new Alien film that they could stuff the third Prometheus film? That it was either Blomkamp's film or his?
Pretty much. Yeah.

Blomkamp's 'Alien' film was being developed in correlation with Scott doing 'Covenant.' Scott was actually supposed to be one of the producers on Blomkamp's 'Alien' film. But upon seeing all of the positive buzz and feedback to the concept art Neill was releasing, as well as a great script he was developing, people's excitement and expectation for another Ridley Scott 'Alien' film was starting to waver. And, upon the release of 'Covenant' and the lukewarm reaction, Blomkamp's Alien film was all of the sudden "not happening." Scott even tried to play it off like Neill hadn't written an actual script, let alone a spec treatment, despite the fact that Sigourney Weaever, Michael Biehn, and JAMES CAMERON, all read a full script that Neill had written.

Bad politics has doomed Halo and Alien for Neill. Definitely not his attitude.

His "I want complete control over what I'm making" attitude might scare some studio execs, but it's not from a place of bad intent. He just wants to be a maverick and make the stuff he wants to make. He's not interested in the 'Marvel' way of making a blockbuster film, where it's by a committee as opposed to a singular voice.
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All i want is the reboot to be hardcore rated R
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