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Old 06-26-2009, 03:38 AM   #1
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Default FCP 6.0.6 Log & Transfer problem with Sony HDR-SR12E

The studio just got this Intel Power Mac with FCP 6 (updated to 6.0.6). We've been trying to get FCP to transfer the .MTS files to be edited but FCP says it's not supported. Additionally the files in STREAM is not in the right folder structure.

So two problems:1) .MTS files are not recognized. 2) Supposedly STREAM is not the right folder structure.

Anybody got any ideas? It's been a week since the Mac arrived and we've not been doing any editing on this.


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Old 06-26-2009, 04:54 AM   #2
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I have never used a Mac before, so this is merely a blind suggestion. If you are able to navigate into the Sony's HDD, use tsMuxeR and remux to a file extension that is familiar with Mac. You can even demux to raw streams. I'm pretty sure tsMuxeR will accept MTS as an input, it can remux to either M2TS, TS, AVCHD, or Blu-ray... and can demux.

Hope this helps, the link provided above is for the Mac version, here is a link for other platforms.

http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

Good luck, please let me know how you make out. I use tsMuxeR for Windows almost everyday for personal use.

BTW, BDMV/Stream/#####.MTS should be the structure for AVCHD.

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I've tested with .TS files converted using tsMuxeR and it won't work.

I've also tested renaming the .MTS files to .M2TS and .MP4 and it still won't work.

It's like the Mac is not recognizing .MTS completely.


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You may need to demux to raw streams to Windows, then transfer over... i sthis possible? You could always demux the raw streams, then remux to MKV in Windows and transfer over... assuming your editing SW accepts MKV.
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You may need to demux to raw streams to Windows, then transfer over... i sthis possible? You could always demux the raw streams, then remux to MKV in Windows and transfer over... assuming your editing SW accepts MKV.
Wouldn't demuxing separate the H.264 video and the AC-3 audio? How would that work though? Even if it does, that means that I'd have to demux over 200 files, which sucks since FCP is supposed to natively support AVCHD.


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Ah, I thought you may be working with one file, yeah that would suck. I know you tried renaming the MTS to M2TS, but did you try to reverse the 8.3 naming system for the whole AVCHD structure... probably not if there are over 200 files.

If you can edit the content on the Sony's HDD, or rename. Use AVCHDMe to undo the 8.3 naming system for the whole structure... just load the root of the structure, and undo. The link is to the download, you can also read up on this app here... not sure if it is Mac compatible. I also use this often to make compatible AVCHD structures for my PS3... and not video from a Sony camera.

Did you do the name changes on the camera's HDD? Would doing this make video recognized by the camera?

Does the Sony manual say anything about not being compatible with Mac?
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Ah, I thought you may be working with one file, yeah that would suck. I know you tried renaming the MTS to M2TS, but did you try to reverse the 8.3 naming system for the whole AVCHD structure... probably not if there are over 200 files.

If you can edit the content on the Sony's HDD, or rename. Use AVCHDMe to undo the 8.3 naming system for the whole structure... just load the root of the structure, and undo. The link is to the download, you can also read up on this app here... not sure if it is Mac compatible. I also use this often to make compatible AVCHD structures for my PS3... and not video from a Sony camera.
Haven't tried that. I'll do that on Monday. But like I said, I tried renaming .MTS to .M2TS (which apparently .MTS gets to be renamed after transferring to the computer) and FCP/Mac still won't recognize it.

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Did you do the name changes on the camera's HDD? Would doing this make video recognized by the camera?

Does the Sony manual say anything about not being compatible with Mac?
The manual suggests anything but Vegas. I've also looked online and FCP 6.0.1 supposed to support AVCHD natively. We got 6.0.6!

Monday I'll come to the studio and give an earful to Apple Support.


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I know the PS3 supports AVCHD with the 8.3 naming system, so this is what the camcorder uses as well, however tsMuxeR outputs extensions with 4 characters, maybe this is AVCHD that Mac and FCP supports?

There is also various AVCHD structures, some more strict than others, maybe find out which specifically is supported by FCP, and then we'll go from there.

Another option... I suggest you sign up to the Doom9 forum and ask around there, there's a lot of brilliant minds that could help you out probably more than I could. If you do, I think there is a 3 or 4 day wait period before you can post, so you should sign up soon.
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I know the PS3 supports AVCHD with the 8.3 naming system, so this is what the camcorder uses as well, however tsMuxeR outputs extensions with 4 characters, maybe this is AVCHD that Mac and FCP supports?
I've tried manually renaming .MTS to .M2TS and the Mac still sees it as a Unix executable file.

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That may be true, but others with 6.0.1 before this have gotten FCP to work with this camera without renaming or restructuring the directory. I don't understand why it's happening now.

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That would be a good last place. Can't return this damn Mac anyway because we're doing two feature 2K projects next year.


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Well good luck with your projects... and if you need to know immediately, I can ask around Doom9 for you... however, I'm off to bed now... 11pm EST.

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Well good luck with your projects... and if you need to know immediately, I can ask around Doom9 for you... however, I'm off to bed now... 11pm EST.
Ask away! Thanks in advance.

I can play and edit .MP4 1080p trailers that I downloaded on FCP. Weirdly, I can hear the audio when I scrub but I get intermittent BEEPS when I play.


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So far here is the conversation going.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...60#post1300660
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Hmmm. Not much goin' on. Thanks for posting, odin.


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I use a Mac Pro (intel) at work and have used the SR12 with it many times. So sounds like same set up. I have Final Cut Studio 2 (FCP6), and log and transfer works with ease, every time. So I can verify it is supported (and will transcode to MOV automatically), but other than to call Apple, I can't offer any suggestions on how to fix it. You don't have to play around with file extensions. FCP doesn't support AVCHD "natively," it does transcode.
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