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Old 03-10-2019, 03:38 AM   #281
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LDs usually win out in any sound format due to using untouched or less manipulated audio mixes. This explains why even 384 kbp/s lossy Ac3 tracks from LD can outdo lossless later releases.
Older films-even classic titles in mono-can sound better due to a lack of noise filtering, EQ, and overzealous corrections being applied these days.

But in terms of DTS it's really dependent on the mix and how it was treated over time. A number of DTS LDs were released on DVD before they halved the bitrate. Many were reissues of titles that already had releases in ac3.

Unfortunately due the rarity and value I've only heard a few and own three. But I will admit after many, MANY comparisons across formats that I do give the slight nod to the DTS LDs for these three titles as just having extra potency and a slight bit more enjoyment.

Those are: The Shadow, Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies. These are three of my favorite sounding films ever made, good demo titles and still sound great today-particularly the latter. Each has a BD release with lossless audio that seems relatively untouched yet when compared, the LD DTS simply sounds a tad better.

I've compared these against: DVD ac3, DVD DTS, LD ac3, LD PCM Dolby Surround and HDMA tracks from their respective BLu-ray releases. Heck I even compared to VHS hifi and the mono folddowns.

TND is the same mix on all releases but while clarity is gained going from 2.0 to 5,1 ac3, the DTS has an additional clarity to it that is hard to define. I think the reason the DTS audio sounds better is perhaps that the BD audio may have been slightly EQd or something but they are admittedly very close.

On the other hand Goldeneye is not the same on all releases-all 2.0 and 5.1 ac3 tracks on Laserdisc and the initial DVDs have a very heavy bass that magnifies into a super hot LFE track in the ac3 track. This is not on the LD DTS or any other release, but the LD DTS is noticeably clearer sounding and more balanced.
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On the other hand Goldeneye is not the same on all releases-all 2.0 and 5.1 ac3 tracks on Laserdisc and the initial DVDs have a very heavy bass that magnifies into a super hot LFE track in the ac3 track. This is not on the LD DTS or any other release, but the LD DTS is noticeably clearer sounding and more balanced.
The LD of Goldeneye (which I bought when it was brand new and cost a princely sum) has bass which is really overbearing, and you can feel it in both your fillings and your colon. Whilst some might relish the prospect, it just sounds as though something wasn't quite right when they were transferring the stems.

My recommendation for BD arse-kicking audio is Alien Resurrection. The piece with the ship exploding mops the floor with any other incarnation.
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Holy cow this thread is still going. I've had to get rid of all my DTS LaserDiscs and only keep Nightmare Before Christmas along with my other releases of Nightmare Before Christmas but having that setup was really nice though I never heard JP or Lost World any other way which was enjoyable at the time.
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I have The Crow (dts) and it sounds fantastic.
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The only Laserdisc titles I have in my collection are titles that have not been released yet on 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray, Blu-ray 3D, standard Blu-ray, or DVD. The only exception to that rule is if only the Laserdisc version has the extended directors cut. Then the Laserdisc or DVD version is better since the entire extended movie exists.


There are many titles that were released on Laserdisc and DVD that well never see a Blu-ray version released. I also have some 1080i D-VHS titles. It happens with every format, when the new and improved format comes out certain older titles never make it to that new and improved optical format.
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Laserdisc DTS is 1.5Mbps. Blu-ray DTS-HD MA is lossless. Laserdisc is about as relevant today as cassettes are.
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Laserdisc DTS is 1.5Mbps. Blu-ray DTS-HD MA is lossless. Laserdisc is about as relevant today as cassettes are.

Most of the time Laserdisc has a better sound quality then the DVD format. When DVD first came out in 1997 for the first couple of years there was many single layer 4.7GB releases with some digital video artifacts and Laserdisc had a slight edge in picture quality for a very short period of time in 1997 and 1998. However as the studios moved to anamorphic widescreen dual layer 8.5GB movie releases, DVD clearly had a better picture then Laserdisc since the digital artifact issue at higher bit rates was very hard to see for most people. Plus DVD had native component video which was better then Laserdiscs native composite video.


Also Laserdiscs had 2.0 PCM studio master soundtracks and most of the time DVD would not use 2.0 PCM since it took up too much space on the disc. Both Laserdisc and DVD had lossy 5.1 DTS and Dolby Digital, however it was extremely rare for a DVD movie to get a 1.54 Mbps DTS soundtrack and instead received half the bit rate for DTS audio when compared to Laserdiscs full 1.54Mbps DTS soundtrack. When it comes to DTS soundtracks for 99% of the movies, Laserdisc sounded better then DVD.


Overall I and most consumers preferred DVD when compared to the Laserdisc format since overall DVD was a better quality format that had the potential to use high bit rate DTS and high bit rate NTSC video that out performed the Laserdisc format. That is why the 1978 Laserdisc format died around the year 2000, just 3 short years after the DVD format came out.


Yes of course 4K Blu-ray and standard Blu-ray has a much better picture and sound quality when compared to both DVD and Laserdisc. Lossless audio with 11.1 DTS X and 11.1 Dolby ATMOS on top of a 3840 x 2160P picture quality with HDR is the way to go.
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