SAMSUNG: Share Your Custom Display Settings

[chip75]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Is it possible that HDMI 2 was designed for something OTHER than a Blu-ray player? I don't see how that's possible in that it WAS ORIGINALLY reading the input as "BLU-RAY"...

I think they're user assignable and not labelled initially. Was the OPPO or another player ever plugged directly into the TV? HDMI CEC can sometimes give the device information, but I don't think it can change the user assignable device name automatically.

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

At any rate, would it harm anything if I just went ahead and did a factory reset? How would I go about this?

No harm.

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[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by chip75

I think they're user assignable and not labelled initially.

That's good to know; how about for 4K/HDR sources...is there a specific input that must be used, do you know? I THINK I saw HDMI 3 or 4 being labeled as ones that accept the HDR connection, but I can't be certain about that...

Was the OPPO or another player ever plugged directly into the TV? HDMI CEC can sometimes give the device information, but I don't think it can change the user assignable device name automatically.

No, the player (nor another one) was never connected to the TV directly, and I never had this problem with my previous Sony display (the inputs always displayed correctly; i.e. "BD" or "Cable Box"). I have all HDMI CEC stuff turned off in the player, receiver AND TV, so I don't think that can be causing anything (and, as you said, it's highly unlikely this would cause an INPUT LABELING to malfunction).

No harm.

Thanks; should I just try that being that I didn't even officially "calibrate" the display for any input yet?

[chip75]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

That's good to know; how about for 4K/HDR sources...is there a specific input that must be used, do you know? I THINK I saw HDMI 3 or 4 being labeled as ones that accept the HDR connection, but I can't be certain about that...

I think all the Samsung HDMI are equal except HDMI IN 4 (ARC) whihc supports ARC.

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Thanks; should I just try that being that I didn't even officially "calibrate" the display for any input yet?

It's probably easier than pulling leads out, but it might be worth starting the TV up without them afterwards.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by chip75

I think all the Samsung HDMI are equal except HDMI IN 4 (ARC) whihc supports ARC.



It's probably easier than pulling leads out, but it might be worth starting the TV up without them afterwards.

Thank you, Chip; I will do this tonight and report back, and if the reset didn't take care of it I will do what you suggested (starting it back up without the inputs plugged in).

What should I do if this keeps happening, though? That is, if I get the correct input to read the correct way (HDMI 2 > BLU-RAY PLAYER) and then at some point it stops doing this again?

[chip75]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Thank you, Chip; I will do this tonight and report back, and if the reset didn't take care of it I will do what you suggested (starting it back up without the inputs plugged in).

What should I do if this keeps happening, though? That is, if I get the correct input to read the correct way (HDMI 2 > BLU-RAY PLAYER) and then at some point it stops doing this again?

Fingers crossed it's just a weird glitch and the reset will fix it. It should certainly wipe all the information from the TV, hopefully that fixes the problem.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by chip75

Fingers crossed it's just a weird glitch and the reset will fix it. It should certainly wipe all the information from the TV, hopefully that fixes the problem.

But I'm still under factory warranty with the display (it's only a few weeks old); for what we paid, we shouldn't have to "keep fingers crossed" (though I certainly know what you're getting at). Would this be something that a firmware update would have to fix, or a Samsung rep would have to get involved with?

[chip75]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

But I'm still under factory warranty with the display (it's only a few weeks old); for what we paid, we shouldn't have to "keep fingers crossed" (though I certainly know what you're getting at). Would this be something that a firmware update would have to fix, or a Samsung rep would have to get involved with?

I wouldn't be concerned unless a reset doesn't fix the issue (or it reoccurs), then I'd go from there.

Considering the size of the update, I think it's bound to fix something!

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by chip75

I wouldn't be concerned unless a reset doesn't fix the issue (or it reoccurs), then I'd go from there.

Considering the size of the update, I think it's bound to fix something!

I only ask because this is something I would not "be able to live with," as small and insignificant as it seems -- I don't like the fact that when I press the button to confirm input and incoming resolution, it displays wrong information.

What also concerns me is that their English-is-not-even-my-fourth-language live chat rep suggested the update wouldn't really benefit me if I'm not using the display for online browsing or streaming...

[chip75]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

I only ask because this is something I would not "be able to live with," as small and insignificant as it seems -- I don't like the fact that when I press the button to confirm input and incoming resolution, it displays wrong information.

I think you're right if it persists, I'd be concerned over the HDMI board and if it's developed a fault. But you're not there yet.

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

What also concerns me is that their English-is-not-even-my-fourth-language live chat rep suggested the update wouldn't really benefit me if I'm not using the display for online browsing or streaming...

I doubt they know exactly what the update does. But the site does say:

- Improved usability
1. Improved browser performance
2. Improved app performance
3. Improved stability

So it may be an issue it can fix.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by chip75

I think you're right if it persists, I'd be concerned over the HDMI board and if it's developed a fault. But you're not there yet.

Aiiiiight….

I doubt they know exactly what the update does.

Do you know how insanely asinine that sounds?

Why don't these reps get trained so they know what they're talking about and what the products they're actually supporting DO?

So it may be an issue it can fix.

Based on what...the "stability" part, do you suspect?

[chip75]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Do you know how insanely asinine that sounds?

Why don't these reps get trained so they know what they're talking about and what the products they're actually supporting DO?

I imagine they have hundreds of products they have to be basically familiar with or have the trouble-shooting checklists in front of them.

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Based on what...the "stability" part, do you suspect?

Possibly. But it might just be a glitch.

[IntelliVolume]

Update, Chip:

I did the factory reset and the correct HDMI input label seems to be working -- that is, the display is recognizing HDMI 2 as the "Blu-ray Player."

I'll let you know if it holds...

[IntelliVolume]

Hey Chip,

Watched the second half of Avengers: Infinity War (BD) last night, and the input name seems to have held -- that is, it is recognizing that the HDMI 2 input is "Blu-ray Player."

So, for now, the factory reset worked; I just don't understand why I needed to do one. I hope the Oppo firmware update didn't trip something up in the Samsung (though I can't understand why that would be connected) because I didn't have this issue prior to the upgrade...

At any rate, now all I have to worry about is choosing between Standard and Movie picture modes, and then getting those dialed in via calibration discs...

Thanks for all your help thus far; please let me know if you have any additional thoughts!

[chip75]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

At any rate, now all I have to worry about is choosing between Standard and Movie picture modes, and then getting those dialed in via calibration discs...

Thanks for all your help thus far; please let me know if you have any additional thoughts!

Get on that Movie mode as fast as possible! Glad the reset worked.

[beefytwinkie]

Hey, IntelliVolume, I just read about your issues with the HDMI input names. You want to know something really annoying? (That's a rhetorical question because I'm going to tell you anways!)

I have my Samsung connected to my Onkyo receiver's HDMI Out going to my television's HDMI Input 1. I had purchased an Amazon Fire Stick and plugged it into my receiver's HDMI In. So, my television recognized there was a signal coming in originating from an Amazon Fire Stick. So Samsung changed the input name "Amazon Fire Stick" for my HDMI 1 on my television.

I have since stopped using the Amazon Fire Stick and replaced it with a sweet Apple TV 4K (which I got for free, by the way. Thank you, DirecTV Now!). And my television still says "Amazon Fire Stick".

I cannot edit or change the input name. It remains as Amazon Fire Stick and it annoys the crap out of me whenever I turn on my television. Samsung televisions are pretty smart but they are also equally, if not more, stupid.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by chip75

Get on that Movie mode as fast as possible! Glad the reset worked.

Thanks Chip!

Indeed, the reset seems to be holding so far as the input label is concerned for HDMI 2; I just wish I knew what caused the snafu...

Last night, we threw in the Blu-ray of Furious 6 because I knew that disc had amazing colors during the outdoor sequences in Spain and other locations around the world, and we kept it in Movie mode (with some changes I made to factory defaults, such as putting noise reduction on LOW and not AUTO, and putting Local Dimming on LOW instead of STANDARD). The film looked plenty bright during outdoor sequences (though, of course, Standard would have pushed the primary hues like the yellows and greens to searing intensity), and my wife even commented, after she moved to my position in front of the screen from her off-axis position on the wall, that Movie looked to her like Standard from my sweet spot perspective...

At this point, I am thinking of keeping the set in Movie, but I have some concerns before I get a UHD disc player and begin playing 4K titles with HDR...first, wouldn't running the set in Standard picture mode be closer to what it would look like with HDR coming in? I mean, Movie looks good and clean -- but it's obviously not as "snappy" as Standard in the contrast and color, so wouldn't Standard give us a closer representation to what HDR is going to look like on a 4K disc?

Also -- someone in another thread mentioned that he keeps his 4K display in HDR+ mode (Samsung's post-processing algorithm for creating faux-HDR for standard HD signals) all the time and it really brings regular Blu-rays to life. Do you still recommend against setting the HDR+ mode to ON? If I do this, what happens to the Movie or Standard picture mode I was already in?

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by beefytwinkie

Hey, IntelliVolume, I just read about your issues with the HDMI input names. You want to know something really annoying? (That's a rhetorical question because I'm going to tell you anways!)

I have my Samsung connected to my Onkyo receiver's HDMI Out going to my television's HDMI Input 1. I had purchased an Amazon Fire Stick and plugged it into my receiver's HDMI In. So, my television recognized there was a signal coming in originating from an Amazon Fire Stick. So Samsung changed the input name "Amazon Fire Stick" for my HDMI 1 on my television.

I have since stopped using the Amazon Fire Stick and replaced it with a sweet Apple TV 4K (which I got for free, by the way. Thank you, DirecTV Now!). And my television still says "Amazon Fire Stick".

I cannot edit or change the input name. It remains as Amazon Fire Stick and it annoys the crap out of me whenever I turn on my television. Samsung televisions are pretty smart but they are also equally, if not more, stupid.

Hey Beefy,

Thanks for chiming in; indeed, there seems to be annoying snafus that affect Samsungs with regard to input labeling, and they really need to get their shit together with this. If Chip hadn't talked me through some thing it may have been on my display, and if I had done the factory reset and it didn't work, I'd be contacting Samsung right now for an explanation, I'll tell you that...

[chip75]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

At this point, I am thinking of keeping the set in Movie, but I have some concerns before I get a UHD disc player and begin playing 4K titles with HDR...first, wouldn't running the set in Standard picture mode be closer to what it would look like with HDR coming in? I mean, Movie looks good and clean -- but it's obviously not as "snappy" as Standard in the contrast and color, so wouldn't Standard give us a closer representation to what HDR is going to look like on a 4K disc?

You have to ask yourself, how important is accuracy to the source material? If it's "very" then you want to use Movie Picture Mode and calibrate the contrast and brightness for your particular environment. If the answer is "no", then it doesn't really matter what setting you use, it's just down to personal preference.

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Also -- someone in another thread mentioned that he keeps his 4K display in HDR+ mode (Samsung's post-processing algorithm for creating faux-HDR for standard HD signals) all the time and it really brings regular Blu-rays to life. Do you still recommend against setting the HDR+ mode to ON? If I do this, what happens to the Movie or Standard picture mode I was already in?

It really depends on the content and how you want to have your content presented. Blu-rays are mastered to guidelines and HDR+ attempts to squeeze more out of them with faux-effects.

You have to remember that if you're running all your Blu-rays at top whack (maxed out backlight, contrast) with HDR+, then you will lessen the affects of true HDR content, you really want your TV to hit a set peak with SDR content. That way you'll get a better contrast between SDR and HDR content.

HDR+ is a separate picture preset, it won't affect Movie or Standard modes' settings. The same thing with when you output HDR, you'll have a Movie mode picture option (as well as the others), but they will be independent of SDR's Movie mode.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by chip75

You have to ask yourself, how important is accuracy to the source material? If it's "very" then you want to use Movie Picture Mode and calibrate the contrast and brightness for your particular environment. If the answer is "no", then it doesn't really matter what setting you use, it's just down to personal preference.



It really depends on the content and how you want to have your content presented. Blu-rays are mastered to guidelines and HDR+ attempts to squeeze more out of them with faux-effects.

I understand what you're saying, Chip; I just mainly wanted to know if by using Standard picture mode for SDR sources it would make regular Blu-rays and DVDs look more like an HDR-encoded 4K disc would -- and if using the HDR+ mode would, as well.

At any rate, while I chew on your suggestions, here's something else I wanted to ask you: Should "Contrast Enhancer" be ON at all for non-HDR sources? Last night, I tried playing around with this while the wife and I watched San Andreas on Blu-ray, and then the regular DVD of the film Airport...I put the Contrast Enhancer on LOW, and while I didn't really see much of a difference with the San Andreas Blu-ray (after watching most of it with the Enhancer OFF), something weird happened when we watched the Airport DVD...

In the beginning of the film (not sure if you're familiar with it), the screen remains completely black as the sound of an airport terminal crowd and an overhead announcement play through the DTS 5.1 soundtrack (it can almost make you think your display blew out because the whole screen is pitch BLACK). From there, the brightness opens up and the on-screen color and action kick in, displaying a bustling Chicago, USA airport of the '60s. When I played this DVD with Contrast Enhancer on LOW, a weird flashing effect occurred on the screen during this opening sequence wherein the LEDs were "pumping," it seemed like, attempting to keep the screen totally black (I assume). It was REALLY distracting and off-putting, but was this because the Contrast Enhancer was on, or did it have to do with the Local Dimming setting, do you think?

You have to remember that if you're running all your Blu-rays at top whack (maxed out backlight, contrast) with HDR+, then you will lessen the affects of true HDR content, you really want your TV to hit a set peak with SDR content. That way you'll get a better contrast between SDR and HDR content.

So let me see if I am understanding you right -- you're saying that if I run Blu-rays and DVDs with settings kind of high or maxed, I won't really "appreciate" the effects of HDR discs once I play them (because settings will be similar)?

HDR+ is a separate picture preset, it won't affect Movie or Standard modes' settings. The same thing with when you output HDR, you'll have a Movie mode picture option (as well as the others), but they will be independent of SDR's Movie mode.

So, in other words, if I were to engage HDR+, it would open up as an "HDR+ STANDARD" or "HDR+ MOVIE" mode? Or does it just open as "HDR+" mode with its own parameters for contrast, sharpness, etc?

Here's something else I wanted to ask you, Chip:

Why doesn't my HDMI BLACK LEVEL control engage with any of my sources? This option is ALWAYS greyed out on my set...

[chip75]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

I understand what you're saying, Chip; I just mainly wanted to know if by using Standard picture mode for SDR sources it would make regular Blu-rays and DVDs look more like an HDR-encoded 4K disc would -- and if using the HDR+ mode would, as well.

It's down to personal taste, but in my experience the more post-processing options applied make DVDs and Blu-rays look worse. They're fun to play around with, and you might get away with using HDR+ on a couple of BDs, but some will look awful.

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

At any rate, while I chew on your suggestions, here's something else I wanted to ask you: Should "Contrast Enhancer" be ON at all for non-HDR sources? Last night, I tried playing around with this while the wife and I watched San Andreas on Blu-ray, and then the regular DVD of the film Airport...I put the Contrast Enhancer on LOW, and while I didn't really see much of a difference with the San Andreas Blu-ray (after watching most of it with the Enhancer OFF), something weird happened when we watched the Airport DVD...

In the beginning of the film (not sure if you're familiar with it), the screen remains completely black as the sound of an airport terminal crowd and an overhead announcement play through the DTS 5.1 soundtrack (it can almost make you think your display blew out because the whole screen is pitch BLACK). From there, the brightness opens up and the on-screen color and action kick in, displaying a bustling Chicago, USA airport of the '60s. When I played this DVD with Contrast Enhancer on LOW, a weird flashing effect occurred on the screen during this opening sequence wherein the LEDs were "pumping," it seemed like, attempting to keep the screen totally black (I assume). It was REALLY distracting and off-putting, but was this because the Contrast Enhancer was on, or did it have to do with the Local Dimming setting, do you think?

Contrast Enhancer highlights bright areas whilst crushing the blacks, os I imagine it's trying to work out what to do when the screen has very bright details as well as dark ones. A pulsating effect isn't uncommon, with contrast enhancing or dynamic settings, as the display reacts to what's on screen. I don't think Local Dimming will cause the effect, but you can get pulsating when you pump up that setting.

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

So let me see if I am understanding you right -- you're saying that if I run Blu-rays and DVDs with settings kind of high or maxed, I won't really "appreciate" the effects of HDR discs once I play them (because settings will be similar)?

More or less, it will depend on your equipment and what the TV does with HDR+. But if you're running SDR too bright, you may not see as much of a difference when you run HDR. You will see a difference, but it may be diminished.

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

So, in other words, if I were to engage HDR+, it would open up as an "HDR+ STANDARD" or "HDR+ MOVIE" mode? Or does it just open as "HDR+" mode with its own parameters for contrast, sharpness, etc?

It depends on the manufacturer, LG for example gives three picture options when you turn-on their HDR+ mode. I think HDR+ is a separate option with the Samsung sets and not under picture modes, so I'll assume it just switches on, whether it gives you independent picture options is something you'll have to test.

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Why doesn't my HDMI BLACK LEVEL control engage with any of my sources? This option is ALWAYS greyed out on my set...

If the device outputs a specific colour space, then the TV detects it and removes the option. It's nothing to worry about.