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Old 01-11-2020, 02:04 AM   #21
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Yes, at LG's CES private suite we tested 4K HDR BDs with the BFI off, low, medium and high and you can easily see the advantages of BFI.

I liked the low and medium BFI settings best as they did not effect the peak luminance much and noticeably improved motion resolution.
Thanks for your feedback Robert. I personally am looking forwards to seeing how Vincent Teoh of HDTVTest reviews that new BFI implementation as in prior 2019 models i think he kept it off but it sounds like it may help make motion actually appear better on 24p content without any negative impact on 4K HDR playback.

Personally i don't feel the performance improvements would sway my more budget minded options to a 2020 model over the 2019 but its nice to hear LG are always improving across the board where they can.
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I've heard this, but I still want to take the plunge. Only reason I don't have a C9 is because it's practically a mirror in my house. (I had a C9 for about a week) I'm hoping they fix that with this year's OLEDs and/or add HDR10+. If not, I may look at
Sony, Sammy and Panasonic. My friend has a E9 in his basement & it's beautiful.
Here's where I stand: I can't make a judgment call on LG's customer service because I have not had an LG for a few years now (I currently have Sammy's KS8000 in 49" flavor).

I am gunning for my first OLED later in 2020, and although some say the LG is slightly better picture-wise than Sony, and vice versa (according to Robert Zohn's 2019 shoot-out results with Sony having won the shoot-out), I am going with either Sony's 2019 55" Master Series OLED (w/X1 Extreme) or, even better, with the forthcoming Sony 48" or 55" Master Series OLED (w/X1 Ultimate). The Sonys just simply have that overall edge for me in both build quality and additional tech improvements that make for the finest OLED experience. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 01-11-2020, 09:36 PM   #23
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Yes, at LG's CES private suite we tested 4K HDR BDs with the BFI off, low, medium and high and you can easily see the advantages of BFI.

I liked the low and medium BFI settings best as they did not effect the peak luminance much and noticeably improved motion resolution.
Good to hear! Any other quick take aways regarding the PQ of the new OLEDs vs the 9s?

Thinking I might go from a B6 to a CX this year... (Though also debating the Phillips 804 now that it's coming to the US).
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Old 01-12-2020, 12:27 AM   #24
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My take on the advantages of LG's 2020 OLED line-up is the following:

- Selectable Black Frame Insertion, aka BFI, so now we have off, Low, Medium, High vs, just on/off.

- Gen 3 video processor for improved up-conversion and motion resolution

- Faster input lag, HGiG, and G-SYNC

- Filmmaker Mode

I also love the new GX Gallery series for its very well designed built-in wall mount.
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Old 01-12-2020, 06:42 PM   #25
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My take on the advantages of LG's 2020 OLED line-up is the following:

- Selectable Black Frame Insertion, aka BFI, so now we have off, Low, Medium, High vs, just on/off.

- Gen 3 video processor for improved up-conversion and motion resolution

- Faster input lag, HGiG, and G-SYNC

- Filmmaker Mode

I also love the new GX Gallery series for its very well designed built-in wall mount.
Robert, keep us updated on CX pricing and availability. I may be in the hunt for one.
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Old 01-12-2020, 07:36 PM   #26
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If all goes as planned I'll be receiving the very first allocation of LG's CX series very early March.
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Old 01-12-2020, 11:47 PM   #27
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Robert will 2019 LG models gert the AppleTV App? I saw the app on a 2020 model LG at CES. I have a LG E9.

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Old 01-13-2020, 01:49 AM   #28
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Robert will 2019 LG models gert the AppleTV App? I saw the app on a 2020 model LG at CES. I have a LG E9.

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LG has already announced that its 2020 LG OLED and LG NanoCell TVs will feature the Apple TV app. For those with 2018 and 2019 LG TV models, they will be able to access the Apple TV app through a webOS smart TV update.

No official date has been announced for when the Apple TV app will be available on any of these TV models.
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Old 01-13-2020, 08:01 AM   #29
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Cool that it’s coming to 2018 models.
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Old 01-14-2020, 01:11 AM   #30
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Thanks JohnAV hopefully sooner than later for my 2019 LG OLED...
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:23 AM   #31
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My take on the advantages of LG's 2020 OLED line-up is the following:

- Selectable Black Frame Insertion, aka BFI, so now we have off, Low, Medium, High vs, just on/off.

- Gen 3 video processor for improved up-conversion and motion resolution

- Faster input lag, HGiG, and G-SYNC

- Filmmaker Mode

I also love the new GX Gallery series for its very well designed built-in wall mount.
More than the 2019 models? I thought 13ms or similar was the same result for the 2020 models. Did they mention the differences between the 2019 models and 2020 models G-Sync support?

It seems like HGIG is the only 2020 feature that 2019 models will miss out on but i assumed apart from a few refinements, the 2020 models were very similar.
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I was not able to test the input lag, but from my conversation with senior engineers at CES I was told to expect the input lag to be 6ms. G-Sync for 2020 will benefit all game refresh rates.

I just built the CX and ZX webpages with .pdfs. Check them out.
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Old 01-14-2020, 04:21 PM   #33
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My take on the advantages of LG's 2020 OLED line-up is the following:

- Selectable Black Frame Insertion, aka BFI, so now we have off, Low, Medium, High vs, just on/off.

- Gen 3 video processor for improved up-conversion and motion resolution

- Faster input lag, HGiG, and G-SYNC

- Filmmaker Mode

I also love the new GX Gallery series for its very well designed built-in wall mount.
Hey Robert,

Is there somewhere that has a breakdown on what Filmmaker Mode is and what it does? I have a B8 currently, but may want to upgrade in the future.
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I was not able to test the input lag, but from my conversation with senior engineers at CES I was told to expect the input lag to be 6ms. G-Sync for 2020 will benefit all game refresh rates.

I just built the CX and ZX webpages with .pdfs. Check them out.
Thanks for the reply Robert. I know that Rtings measured the 120hz input lag at circa 6.5 to 6.8ms on the LG C9. I'm guessing they'll probably claiming that figure for the input lag as 6ms at 60hz would be having achieved half of what 2019 models managed and they'd be shouting that from the rooftops imo.
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