Hi def camcorder opinion. Hard drive or Mini DV ? - Blu-ray Forum

xwingsct · 03-01-2008, 06:47 PM

Which one is better?
Hard drive or Mini DV or mini DVD?

Hard drive would be faster to transfer to PC right?
Mini DV you have to do the real time capturing.

groovyone · 03-01-2008, 07:15 PM

I like HDD ones, but you will need space for backups on HDDs. With the DV or DVD you can keep the media you record it on.

xwingsct · 03-01-2008, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groovyone

I like HDD ones, but you will need space for backups on HDDs. With the DV or DVD you can keep the media you record it on.

Well, eventually I will have to put it on BD media when BD burner and media become affordable.
What about Picture quality? can you tell the difference between the two though?

WriteSimply · 03-01-2008, 08:59 PM

I don't have a HD/SD MiniDV cam but since both uses AVCHD, I would think the PQ, when using the same CMOS, lens and video circuitry, would be identical.

But in the world of TV/video production, you use tapes so that you can just change tapes once it's finished. That's your "raw film stock". Until they can make HDDs interchangeable, I don't think HDD is the option you should take.

fuad

aristotles · 03-01-2008, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WriteSimply

I don't have a HD/SD MiniDV cam but since both uses AVCHD, I would think the PQ, when using the same CMOS, lens and video circuitry, would be identical.

But in the world of TV/video production, you use tapes so that you can just change tapes once it's finished. That's your "raw film stock". Until they can make HDDs interchangeable, I don't think HDD is the option you should take.

fuad

HDV (DV tapes) do not use AVCHD but rather a form of MPEG2 compression while the Hard drive based HiDef Camcorders do use AVCHD.

I was quite happy with my Sony HDV camcorder before I lost it in Spain this summer. I'm going to wait for 1920X1080 cameras that record in AVC MP4 format.

WriteSimply · 03-01-2008, 09:31 PM

That's interesting to know. Thanks.

fuad

MrBogey · 03-02-2008, 01:53 AM

HDD cameras can start quicker because there's nothing to spool and buffer. Or so I've heard.

MotionBlurr · 03-02-2008, 02:11 AM

Also, the battery life on a HDD camcorder lasts longer because there is no tape mechanism. Mine lasts 5-6 hrs before recharge.

Chevypower · 03-03-2008, 03:50 AM

Get a Sony HDR-SR11 or HDR-12. Records on to both Memory Stick and Hard Drive. Tape gives you dropouts, contaminated heads and tapes etc. Tape mechanisms are the most common repairs needed on camcorders. HDV maxes out at 1440x1080i and does not natively support 24 frames or any progressive scan. AVCHD is the better codec, but use it around at least 17Mb/s which is the maximum most AVCHD camcorders record at, at the moment.

syncguy · 03-11-2008, 01:49 PM

One of the key issues with HD on miniDV tape is dropouts. Dropouts could occur at any crucial movement without any warning and you will not even notice that until you check the tape later. There are better quality HD miniDV tapes to reduce this possibility but there is no guarantee that dropouts would not occur even on more expensive HD miniDV tapes.

Some currently available professional HD cameras use interchangeable memory cards. However, still this is an expensive alternative.

HDD seems to be an economical alternative, however, I am concerned with interchangeability options of HDD and possibility of HDD crash.

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03-01-2008, 07:15 PM	#2
groovyone Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2007 Location:PSNetwork: groovyone	I like HDD ones, but you will need space for backups on HDDs. With the DV or DVD you can keep the media you record it on.

03-01-2008, 08:59 PM	#4
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	I don't have a HD/SD MiniDV cam but since both uses AVCHD, I would think the PQ, when using the same CMOS, lens and video circuitry, would be identical. But in the world of TV/video production, you use tapes so that you can just change tapes once it's finished. That's your "raw film stock". Until they can make HDDs interchangeable, I don't think HDD is the option you should take. fuad

03-01-2008, 09:31 PM	#6
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	That's interesting to know. Thanks. fuad

03-02-2008, 01:53 AM	#7
MrBogey Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007	HDD cameras can start quicker because there's nothing to spool and buffer. Or so I've heard.

03-02-2008, 02:11 AM	#8
MotionBlurr Active Member Member since:Oct 2007	Also, the battery life on a HDD camcorder lasts longer because there is no tape mechanism. Mine lasts 5-6 hrs before recharge.

03-03-2008, 03:50 AM	#9
Chevypower Special Member Member since:Feb 2008	Get a Sony HDR-SR11 or HDR-12. Records on to both Memory Stick and Hard Drive. Tape gives you dropouts, contaminated heads and tapes etc. Tape mechanisms are the most common repairs needed on camcorders. HDV maxes out at 1440x1080i and does not natively support 24 frames or any progressive scan. AVCHD is the better codec, but use it around at least 17Mb/s which is the maximum most AVCHD camcorders record at, at the moment.

03-11-2008, 01:49 PM	#10
syncguy Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008	One of the key issues with HD on miniDV tape is dropouts. Dropouts could occur at any crucial movement without any warning and you will not even notice that until you check the tape later. There are better quality HD miniDV tapes to reduce this possibility but there is no guarantee that dropouts would not occur even on more expensive HD miniDV tapes. Some currently available professional HD cameras use interchangeable memory cards. However, still this is an expensive alternative. HDD seems to be an economical alternative, however, I am concerned with interchangeability options of HDD and possibility of HDD crash.

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