Yash Raj Films 10 Titles Releasing in December 14

[sanjay0864]

Originally Posted by anibap

This came in today from YRF.

No DTS master audio.

Shame on Yash Raj, once again the Bollywood movie fan is going to get shafted. NO LOSSLESS AUDIO and even worse, they don't even feel the need to try and explain or justify, although personally I think this is unjustifiable, why there will only be DVD quality sound on a High Definition format.

[nicodior]

Originally Posted by sanjay0864

Shame on Yash Raj, once again the Bollywood movie fan is going to get shafted. NO LOSSLESS AUDIO and even worse, they don't even feel the need to try and explain or justify, although personally I think this is unjustifiable, why there will only be DVD quality sound on a High Definition format.

You need to understand that Hindi films aren't shot with high quality ANYTHING...especially older ones. You must understand that DTS most likely the highest thing they have to work with.

[desiguy2447]

If the authoring house is given DTS to work then that what they are going to put on Blu-Ray Disc along side the supplied DD 5.1, and DD 2.0. Nothing shameful here.. I'm happy that YRF choose to go with a proper authoring house instead of saving money, and going with a local one in India who has no clue how to do Blu-ray proper.. Minus (Parsad Labs Chennai).

[bugsnest]

The price for these YRF BD's are listed as Rs. 599 (~13 USD)... not bad, I thought they would be 25USD or more!

Guess I will be doing some YRF BD shopping during my India vacation in December

[Blu-Curry]

Originally Posted by anibap

2. Our next 10 titles, already displayed on our website, will be released end November or early December as the process is very time consuming and we are making them with extra care on all quality aspects to give you best possible products. The authoring, glass master and the replication of these titles are being done outside India at one of the best facility in the world.

Hmmm, Bollywood Blu-Ray reported that these would be released on Oct. 27th. It's even on this site...

[GoodToGo]

Originally Posted by nicodior

You need to understand that Hindi films aren't shot with high quality ANYTHING...especially older ones. You must understand that DTS most likely the highest thing they have to work with.

I find that hard to believe, looks to me that YRF wants to just make a fast buck. If they can make the picture full 1920 x 1080 (or so they say), then why not the audio lossless? It probably has to do something with the costs or time involved.

[sanjay0864]

Originally Posted by nicodior

You need to understand that Hindi films aren't shot with high quality ANYTHING...especially older ones. You must understand that DTS most likely the highest thing they have to work with.

It's obvious you don't understand too much off the technical process of making a film and transferring it to video. Bollywood films for the most part are shot with the highest quality equipment and there is definately no issues on that count. The problem is simply that of customers willing to accept sub par quality and less than what they pay for. Thus companies like Yash Raj do not feel the need to invest in having to go back to the original audio stems to get a lossless audio mix. Rather it is much simpler and cheaper for them to simply use the DD & DTS masters that were prepared for the theatrical release prints.

[sanjay0864]

Originally Posted by desiguy2447

If the authoring house is given DTS to work then that what they are going to put on Blu-Ray Disc along side the supplied DD 5.1, and DD 2.0. Nothing shameful here.. I'm happy that YRF choose to go with a proper authoring house instead of saving money, and going with a local one in India who has no clue how to do Blu-ray proper.. Minus (Parsad Labs Chennai).

What is the point of working with a good authoring house, if you are going to limit the quality of the end product anyhow. And pray tell me why is it not shameful for them to deliver DVD quality audio on a High Definition format? Bottom line is that Yash Raj is simply cutting corners since they realize that most customers will not give a damn about the audio. Therefore, those of us who do have decent audio systems and who appreciate good quality audio are the one's who will be shafted due to the ignorance of others.

[bugsnest]

Originally Posted by sanjay0864

What is the point of working with a good authoring house, if you are going to limit the quality of the end product anyhow. And pray tell me why is it not shameful for them to deliver DVD quality audio on a High Definition format? Bottom line is that Yash Raj is simply cutting corners since they realize that most customers will not give a damn about the audio. Therefore, those of us who do have decent audio systems and who appreciate good quality audio are the one's who will be shafted due to the ignorance of others.

Lossless and DTS audio are all good but like you said MOST customers in India don't have the equipment to appreciate lossless audio in a high def format.
And these are not films that can be mass marketed to a western audience... so the buying power rests solely on the Indian diaspora who are not exactly looking out for great quality when they have come to rely on the $2 DVD at the desi store ...or streaming online content illegally!

I do believe with time and adoption of the new format and the lower cost of quality Home Theatre equipment in India, all this could change. That and the fact that now you have Hollywood studios producing films in India .. so one can only hope they would release their films on superior quality BD's/DVD's that would force the YRF's and Eros' of the world to follow suit. So YRF is cutting corners since they don't gain anything by not doing so... Pure market economics than anything else

[Harvey Dent]

The DVDs of most of the later movies had a wealth of special features. Any idea whether YRF will retain them or just like a lossless audio track decide to drop them ??

[nicodior]

Originally Posted by sanjay0864

It's obvious you don't understand too much off the technical process of making a film and transferring it to video. Bollywood films for the most part are shot with the highest quality equipment and there is definately no issues on that count. The problem is simply that of customers willing to accept sub par quality and less than what they pay for. Thus companies like Yash Raj do not feel the need to invest in having to go back to the original audio stems to get a lossless audio mix. Rather it is much simpler and cheaper for them to simply use the DD & DTS masters that were prepared for the theatrical release prints.

Coming from a suspended member, I find it quite funny you trying to school me on this.

"A" for effort though.

and PS....Around 90% of Hindi theatrical releases come in Dolby Digital 5.1 and NOTHING higher. I have a friend who runs an indian cinema.

[Blu-Curry]

Originally Posted by nicodior

Coming from a suspended member, I find it quite funny you trying to school me on this.

"A" for effort though.

and PS....Around 90% of Hindi theatrical releases come in Dolby Digital 5.1 and NOTHING higher. I have a friend who runs an indian cinema.

lol You sir have made one of the best post i've ever seen on here. Now we may all speak freely and won't be put down if we just so happen to be "wrong" about something.

I'm still curious as to the ACTUAL release dates on these blu-rays as this site and that guy's post say different things, as i've pointed out before.

[DiNZi]

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

lol You sir have made one of the best post i've ever seen on here. Now we may all speak freely and won't be put down if we just so happen to be "wrong" about something.

I'm still curious as to the ACTUAL release dates on these blu-rays as this site and that guy's post say different things, as i've pointed out before.

Me Too! I Was Also Expecting These Titles To Be Released By The End Of The Month, Seems Not Anymore

[nicodior]

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

lol You sir have made one of the best post i've ever seen on here. Now we may all speak freely and won't be put down if we just so happen to be "wrong" about something.

I'm still curious as to the ACTUAL release dates on these blu-rays as this site and that guy's post say different things, as i've pointed out before.

As we all know, unfortunately there are next to no official home video release dates for Indian titles. Maybe we should hit up Yash Raj and demand it? Haha.

[Harvey Dent]

Why dont u people put in a mail to YRF directly with your queries ?? They are extremely prompt and receptive in replying to queries. According to a mail I received , they are considering putting lossless audio in future releases, but for the first batch of 10 releases it seems ruled out. Secondly they have yet to take a call on whether/ how much of the special features available in the DVD editions will be ported over to the blu ray releases. Given the way things stand, it looks difficult for them to meet the end November release date target, IMO

[vveksuvarna]

Originally Posted by Harvey Dent

Why dont u people put in a mail to YRF directly with your queries ?? They are extremely prompt and receptive in replying to queries. According to a mail I received , they are considering putting lossless audio in future releases, but for the first batch of 10 releases it seems ruled out. Secondly they have yet to take a call on whether/ how much of the special features available in the DVD editions will be ported over to the blu ray releases. Given the way things stand, it looks difficult for them to meet the end November release date target, IMO

so are you suggesting that the TOP 10 from their catalog which trhey chose to release in blu will have lossy sound.

after all the market research they did, asked conssumers which titles they would like to see on blu.

they treat their finest films and the consumers with lossy sound.

way to go yrf.

[slperson1]

The reason they didn't put lossless audio on these releases is because of people like the posters above making up excuses for indian film industry. There isn't a reason for them to exclude a lossless audio track. The tamil movies all came with loss less audio. There isn't a reason the hindi movies can't come with loss less audio. When recording the bgm and music for the movies, the music directors do not record the bgm and music in DTS etc; they record it in .wav (lossless format). Quit making excuses for the indian industry and it might pressure them to do what's right.

[GoodToGo]

Originally Posted by slperson1

The reason they didn't put lossless audio on these releases is because of people like the posters above making up excuses for indian film industry. There isn't a reason for them to exclude a lossless audio track. The tamil movies all came with loss less audio. There isn't a reason the hindi movies can't come with loss less audio. When recording the bgm and music for the movies, the music directors do not record the bgm and music in DTS etc; they record it in .wav (lossless format). Quit making excuses for the indian industry and it might pressure them to do what's right.

Amen to this. Now I don't know how you plan on protesting this stupid decision of YRF but I know how I will. I wont buy these. Plain and simple. Vote with your wallet.

[desiguy2447]

Had YRF included lossless audio I almost certain a few people would still be screaming over some issue with the authoring of BD discs by YRF. (Granted if it was a major issue like EROS BD (lip sync, BD not playing in most devices, sub par PQ).

[arjun1591]

Does anyone know if any of the upcoming Yash Raj Blu rays are region free?