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Old 10-18-2018, 12:25 AM   #341
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Just got this from TT:

Richard, thank you once again for choosing to order your films direct from Twilight Time Movies!

Due to a manufacturing delay beyond our control, our October titles are not expected to ship until approximately 10/25. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience.

They can't fool me, the delay is not 'manufacturing ', just logistics.
Actually with the sheer number of delays to multiple titles from multiple studios I suspect they are being truthful. Now that Technicolor has essentially become a non-MOD monopoly on the production side they seem to be running into capacity issues esp with Holiday Inventory being built up.

TT has often been bumped to the back of the line due to their small volume batches. It used to happen with Cinram occasionally for individual releases though only once I can remember it seems for the whole set of releases.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:14 AM   #342
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I, too, believe that it is a "manufacturing" problem. There's been a lot of talk about plants closing and it seems right now there are multiple distributors all apologizing for delays.
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Old 10-18-2018, 11:35 AM   #343
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Just got this from TT:

Richard, thank you once again for choosing to order your films direct from Twilight Time Movies!

Due to a manufacturing delay beyond our control, our October titles are not expected to ship until approximately 10/25. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience.

They can't fool me, the delay is not 'manufacturing ', just logistics.
This is labelled as a limited edition. Why would they try to fool you into thinking it's being manufactured in order to cover up a logistics issue? Wouldn't it be the opposite? Blame the delay on logistics because it's OOP to cover up a repress? That's like telling the cops you killed someone to cover up a speeding ticket. I'm pretty sure this is being manufactured. I mentioned earlier in this thread the logistics issue would make them borderline incompetent, and this isn't the first time I've seen Gun Fury disappear from the TT site only to reappear for sale.

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Old 10-19-2018, 11:53 PM   #344
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I just thought it was a blanket statement. Plus, for some reason I assumed they printed all 3000 at once, never considered MOD.
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:44 AM   #345
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I just thought it was a blanket statement. Plus, for some reason I assumed they printed all 3000 at once, never considered MOD.
I'm nearly 100% sure they press all 3000 (plus extras) at once. There may have been some early titles that they were force to split into 2 cycles, but I think even that was a rumor. I've never heard anything about TT have any association with MOD title. To date all their items were done by Cinram until sometime in 2015 when Cinram was bought by Thomson/Techinicolor and they were forced to TC plants. Initially in Mexico and now possibly some in the US (California or Tennessee if I'm reading their last post correctly). Neither Cinram nor TC are involved in MOD titles that I'm aware.

I still haven't figured out what pixote is talking about other than from earlier posts he seemed confused about how TT and SAE divide up and store their portion of the contracted titles.

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Old 12-25-2018, 04:12 AM   #346
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I haven't watched the whole movie but the little I previewed was like a poster here said was dark or muddy looking. Nothing like Sangaree. I'll watch the whole movie ASAP. I did not notice any sync problems but will pay more attention when I do.
Edit: Not sure what happened above but upon watching the whole movie, it was not dark at all and there are many nice 3D scenes. Also a good movie with good 3D. I can see rewatching it also.
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Old 06-30-2019, 06:12 AM   #347
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Just watched this tonight, great use of 3D, plus nice to see Lee Marvin in an early role!
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Old 06-30-2019, 11:11 AM   #348
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For anyone who missed out, once again Gun Fury is back in stock / on sale from both TT and screen archives.
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Just watched this tonight, great use of 3D, plus nice to see Lee Marvin in an early role!
Also nice to see Leo Gordon. Animation fans might recognize him from a movie called 'Fire and Ice' (1983).
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Old 06-30-2019, 02:27 PM   #350
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Also nice to see Leo Gordon. Animation fans might recognize him from a movie called 'Fire and Ice' (1983).
That's a good point!
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Old 05-30-2020, 09:15 AM   #351
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With the TT sale, I ordered a lot from TT / SAE. This was one of the Blu-rays I ordered, and the first to arrive from SAE, so it's my very first TT watch.

In browsing TT's entire catalog to choose which films I might be interested in, I frequently came across titles that this site had no screenshots of, or review. (I've often lamented that this site doesn't have any apparent way to easily submit screenshots. I'd submit so many!) This movie was one of them. Luckily this thread is shorter than many so it's not as bad as some - I only skimmed it briefly - so I decided to write a quick review to add as a user review:

Glad to have seen in 3D despite low PQ

I purchased this Blu-ray mainly for the 3D experience, as I don't normally watch Westerns. The chase format to the story was interesting enough for me to give it a watch, as well as the romance aspect with the beautiful Donna Reed as the leading lady, who is a feisty rather than passive prisoner and is given plenty of screen time, comparable to the hero and the villain.

I haven't previously viewed any older 3D films, so I went in with low expectations, and as a result I wasn't too disappointed. The video and 3D quality is generally at its best in close-ups and can be quite good, but the picture quality is consistently lower, to the point of being quite poor, throughout the rest of the film. I found the opening titles impossible to watch as the 3D seems off, but the included post-titles chapter break comes too late to easily skip them. Night scenes (presumably "day for night") are particularly flat and dark. Grain is often present but it's soft with the rest of the image and never fine, while some sequences are heavily scrubbed of grain. Edge haloing is painful in some shots. On a positive note, no major blemishes such as scratches were observed. The encode has an average bitrate (listed as 25 Mbps in this site's specs), which is adequate given the apparent limitations of the source material or transfer.

The audio was adequate with clear dialogue and without any problems. Somewhat lengthy dialogue by characters in Spanish is not subtitled and is apparently not meant to be understood. I didn't encounter the sync issue that some have reported, but I diagnosed it. There is apparently an overlapping frame at 0:42:02, causing an audio skew of 3.208ms.

I don't expect or need many extras on a release such as this, so the minimal extras aren't a disappointment, just a fact. TT's standard inclusion of an isolated music track is welcome here as the score is enjoyable. The original theatrical trailer is another welcome inclusion (all too often Blu-rays don't include this, and I always miss it when it's not included). The trailer is graded brighter than the film, which may be a harsher appearance but could have been better for 3D, especially the night scenes.

If you can look past the frequently low picture quality and just enjoy the story and the 3D and the fact that this was released in the first place, you should have an enjoyable experience watching this 1953 Western.
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Old 05-30-2020, 09:37 AM   #352
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With the TT sale, I ordered a lot from TT / SAE. This was one of the Blu-rays I ordered, and the first to arrive from SAE, so it's my very first TT watch.

In browsing TT's entire catalog to choose which films I might be interested in, I frequently came across titles that this site had no screenshots of, or review. (I've often lamented that this site doesn't have any apparent way to easily submit screenshots. I'd submit so many!) This movie was one of them. Luckily this thread is shorter than many so it's not as bad as some - I only skimmed it briefly - so I decided to write a quick review to add as a user review:

Glad to have seen in 3D despite low PQ

I purchased this Blu-ray mainly for the 3D experience, as I don't normally watch Westerns. The chase format to the story was interesting enough for me to give it a watch, as well as the romance aspect with the beautiful Donna Reed as the leading lady, who is a feisty rather than passive prisoner and is given plenty of screen time, comparable to the hero and the villain.

I haven't previously viewed any older 3D films, so I went in with low expectations, and as a result I wasn't too disappointed. The video and 3D quality is generally at its best in close-ups and can be quite good, but the picture quality is consistently lower, to the point of being quite poor, throughout the rest of the film. I found the opening titles impossible to watch as the 3D seems off, but the included post-titles chapter break comes too late to easily skip them. Night scenes (presumably "day for night") are particularly flat and dark. Grain is often present but it's soft with the rest of the image and never fine, while some sequences are heavily scrubbed of grain. Edge haloing is painful in some shots. On a positive note, no major blemishes such as scratches were observed. The encode has an average bitrate (listed as 25 Mbps in this site's specs), which is adequate given the apparent limitations of the source material or transfer.

The audio was adequate with clear dialogue and without any problems. Somewhat lengthy dialogue by characters in Spanish is not subtitled and is apparently not meant to be understood. I didn't encounter the sync issue that some have reported, but I diagnosed it. There is apparently an overlapping frame at 0:42:02, causing an audio skew of 3.208ms.

I don't expect or need many extras on a release such as this, so the minimal extras aren't a disappointment, just a fact. TT's standard inclusion of an isolated music track is welcome here as the score is enjoyable. The original theatrical trailer is another welcome inclusion (all too often Blu-rays don't include this, and I always miss it when it's not included). The trailer is graded brighter than the film, which may be a harsher appearance but could have been better for 3D, especially the night scenes.

If you can look past the frequently low picture quality and just enjoy the story and the 3D and the fact that this was released in the first place, you should have an enjoyable experience watching this 1953 Western.
Itís obvious you donít watch many vintage 3D Blu-Rays, you wouldnít have low expectations if you did. Most of my Golden Age 3D titles have been amongst the best in the format, putting most modern efforts to shame. I give you House Of Wax, Inferno, It Came From Outer Space, The Mad Magician, The Sword Of Granada, Adam And Six Eves, The Creature From The Black Lagoon, The Bubble, The Mask and many more.
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Old 05-30-2020, 10:44 AM   #353
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Itís obvious you donít watch many vintage 3D Blu-Rays, you wouldnít have low expectations if you did.
Yes, that's why I stated exactly that in what I wrote

I'm looking forward to expanding my library in this area and already have some further vintage 3D titles on order, so this was a good one to start with, as it can now only get better from here!
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Old 05-30-2020, 12:42 PM   #354
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Itís obvious you donít watch many vintage 3D Blu-Rays, you wouldnít have low expectations if you did. Most of my Golden Age 3D titles have been amongst the best in the format, putting most modern efforts to shame. I give you House Of Wax, Inferno, It Came From Outer Space, The Mad Magician, The Sword Of Granada, Adam And Six Eves, The Creature From The Black Lagoon, The Bubble, The Mask and many more.
Black Lagoon isnít as good as some of the modern stuff in my eyes. All the underwater scenes are pretty bad.
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Old 09-25-2021, 12:29 PM   #355
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Black Lagoon isnít as good as some of the modern stuff in my eyes. All the underwater scenes are pretty bad.
I believe the consensus is that Universal gimped the 3-D restoration and that it would have been stellar if the 3DFA could have done it. If only.
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so, I really enjoy vintage 3d movies. I have purchased most releases. I was on a brief spending hiatus when this movie was released (I also missed out on Sangaree). Unfortunately, I cannot find Sangaree anywhere to purchase. I am really bummed about that. I have been watching for a month and nothing. However, Gun Fury is available on ebay for $70 + shipping. I have read mixed reviews on the PQ. Do you think it is worth purchasing at that price point?

ps and if anyone is willing to sell Sangaree, I would pay $100. And I am open to negotiation.

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Old 01-19-2022, 04:59 PM   #357
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so, I really enjoy vintage 3d movies. I have purchased most releases. I was on a brief spending hiatus when this movie was released (I also missed out on Sangaree). Unfortunately, I cannot find Sangaree anywhere to purchase. I am really bummed about that. I have been watching for a month and nothing. However, Gun Fury is available on ebay for $70 + shipping. I have read mixed reviews on the PQ. Do you think it is worth purchasing at that price point?

ps and if anyone is willing to sell Sangaree, I would pay $100. And I am open to negotiation.
I believe someone posted that the previously released Twilight Time Sony 3D releases we’re going to be revisited by Kino Lorber. I would hold off paying a premium for it right now. In addition some players has a half second audio delay at where the intermission card should have been inserted.
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Old 01-19-2022, 05:35 PM   #358
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I believe someone posted that the previously released Twilight Time Sony 3D releases weíre going to be revisited by Kino Lorber. I would hold off paying a premium for it right now. In addition some players has a half second audio delay at where the intermission card should have been inserted.
thank you for the kind and informative response! I will hold off then. but man, there has got to be someone, somewhere willing to sell Sangaree!!
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thank you for the kind and informative response! I will hold off then. but man, there has got to be someone, somewhere willing to sell Sangaree!!
If thereís any brick and mortar stores that carry used 3D Blu-rays, check there. A few months ago I found a used copy of Sangaree at Amoeba Hollywood for just $25. They didnít know what they had!
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