Flixster now to be the only UK Ultraviolet provider, TalkTalk to drop Ultraviolet.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Zu Nim

UV is not a profit center. It's a cost center. The studios and retailers both chip in to support UV. The hope is that by offering UV content that people will be more confident about digital purchasing, resulting in higher overall revenue for both than if they didn't offer UV as a feature.

Specifically, when a customer buys or redeems a movie at a retailer, they (roughly) pay 12.5 cents to DECE and the studio that distributed the film pays 12.5 cents as well.

Yeah, I’m sure a closing down will REALLY inspire the U.K. to invest.

[Porco Azzurro]

Originally Posted by papamarg

I know, but you can use a VPN/proxy to create the account, worry about playback afterwards...

Well, ok, assuming they don’t just delete your account for shenangians...! The whole thing is a mess regardless.

[casperuk]

You have to be careful when importing into VUDU or Fandango now in the US.

Not all of my UV library has ported over as they aren't supported on these platforms.

I've got a US copy of the hateful 8. It's in UV. But it will not port to VUDU

My UV library is made up of UK, US, french and German codes. Most have ported to VUDU. About 8 haven't

[casperuk]

Originally Posted by papamarg

Maybe that's true for new titles, older titles still work.

How do you mean?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Porco Azzurro

Well, ok, assuming they don’t just delete your account for shenangians...! The whole thing is a mess regardless.

Yeah, for all the talk about streaming killing discs they sure are doing their best to complicate that side of things in the UK. Stuff like Netflix and "boxset bingeing" is going great guns of course, but the whole other avenue of movie ownership in the digital world has been very undercooked. There's still iTunes and whatnot but they don't have everything, and while the US has several vendors who can do 4K like VUDU and Fandango and MA, we're much worse off. I don't know if that says more about us as a peoples though, I think the usual British technophobia has kicked in good and proper when it comes to 4K.

[casperuk]

Originally Posted by papamarg

Older codes that were originally UV should still port to VUDU (foreign titles for example). Maybe this only applies to Warner or Sony titles, I am redeeming old Universal and Fox codes directly on iTunes when possible.

AHH that's the issue. I'm UK based. And all my codes with a few exceptions are from UK bd's.

It's the odd release that's not porting

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yeah, for all the talk about streaming killing discs they sure are doing their best to complicate that side of things in the UK. Stuff like Netflix and "boxset bingeing" is going great guns of course, but the whole other avenue of movie ownership in the digital world has been very undercooked. There's still iTunes and whatnot but they don't have everything, and while the US has several vendors who can do 4K like VUDU and Fandango and MA, we're much worse off. I don't know if that says more about us as a peoples though, I think the usual British technophobia has kicked in good and proper when it comes to 4K.

Tell me about it.

US SIDE

iTunes
Google play
2 VUDU
2 MA
1 Fandango.
Amazon.com uses my UK email address.
Microsoft uses my UK account (also ports into the movies and TV app in Windows 10)
Disney account that got closed
Sony pictures (now gone)


UK Side

Google play
Skystore
Rakuten TV (old talk talk/Tesco account)
iTunes
Flixster
Sony pictures (now gone)

Then there was the UV account.

This linked into talk talk and flixster. Then just flixster, which limited how I could watch my movies.

When MA launched I fudged it, so I used my UK Google account, so nearly every is now in that.

It should not be this hard to get a "free" movie or a paid for movie. Then the big studios complain about people downloading illegally. You know why people download illegally? Cos it's easier than finding a retailer that will play on all of your devices let alone one of them.... Also no sodding advertising, I've paid good money for a blu ray or digital content (I'm looking at sky here) so I don't have adverts before something i want to watch.

[bessetmath]

Originally Posted by casperuk

AHH that's the issue. I'm UK based. And all my codes with a few exceptions are from UK bd's.

It's the odd release that's not porting



Tell me about it.

US SIDE

iTunes
Google play
2 VUDU
2 MA
1 Fandango.
Amazon.com uses my UK email address.
Microsoft uses my UK account (also ports into the movies and TV app in Windows 10)
Disney account that got closed
Sony pictures (now gone)


UK Side

Google play
Skystore
Rakuten TV (old talk talk/Tesco account)
iTunes
Flixster
Sony pictures (now gone)

Then there was the UV account.

This linked into talk talk and flixster. Then just flixster, which limited how I could watch my movies.

When MA launched I fudged it, so I used my UK Google account, so nearly every is now in that.

It should not be this hard to get a "free" movie or a paid for movie. Then the big studios complain about people downloading illegally. You know why people download illegally? Cos it's easier than finding a retailer that will play on all of your devices let alone one of them.... Also no sodding advertising, I've paid good money for a blu ray or digital content (I'm looking at sky here) so I don't have adverts before something i want to watch.

You Are absolutely right. They need to get things right to avoid piracy. Lionsgate, mgm and paramount should join moviesanywhere and expand to other countries.

My dreams for digital streaming will be like all you can eat movies. They already do it for music with apple. You pay X amount/month and you can stream all the music you want. It’s will be nice if they do the same thing with movies.

[casperuk]

Originally Posted by bessetmath

You Are absolutely right. They need to get things right to avoid piracy. Lionsgate, mgm and paramount should join moviesanywhere and expand to other countries.

My dreams for digital streaming will be like all you can eat movies. They already do it for music with apple. You pay X amount/month and you can stream all the music you want. It’s will be nice if they do the same thing with movies.

All you can eat movies was meant to be Netflix.

This is gonna go the way of the bad old days. Where everyone thinks they can do it better. And no one does a good job

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yeah, for all the talk about streaming killing discs they sure are doing their best to complicate that side of things in the UK. Stuff like Netflix and "boxset bingeing" is going great guns of course, but the whole other avenue of movie ownership in the digital world has been very undercooked. There's still iTunes and whatnot but they don't have everything, and while the US has several vendors who can do 4K like VUDU and Fandango and MA, we're much worse off. I don't know if that says more about us as a peoples though, I think the usual British technophobia has kicked in good and proper when it comes to 4K.

Why? Sky do 4K. ITunes does 4K. Amazon does 4K, Google as well. If you mean UV, they didn’t even get out of the blocks to test the water.

[Steedeel]

I was thinking, now that Comcast own Sky, surely there has to be something on the table. Don’t Comcast own Fandango?

[casperuk]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I was thinking, now that Comcast own Sky, surely there has to be something on the table. Don’t Comcast own Fandango?

i was hoping the same thing myself. maybe sky will import the UV movies into the Skystore portion of their business.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by papamarg

NowTV is still 720p I believe, do you mean Sky Q?

Yes Sky Q. Now TV is 4K now though also. They are offering a new set top box/streaming box. Apparently, depending on the quality of your tv, it upscales 1080p quite well also. You will need fibre for that option though, obviously.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by casperuk

i was hoping the same thing myself. maybe sky will import the UV movies into the Skystore portion of their business.

It’s only curiosity with me, I am a disc only person.

[casperuk]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It’s only curiosity with me, I am a disc only person.

I used to be. Only buying things I really want physically now

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by papamarg

It supports 4K for Netflix etc, their own content is still 720p I believe.

Wow, that’s daft. On second thoughts, they probably do that on purpose so that it doesn’t devalue Sky Q. I’m sure they could push up to 1080p no problem.

[casperuk]

Sky q has a lot of 4k content from movies, TV shows and sport.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by casperuk

Sky q has a lot of 4k content from movies, TV shows and sport.

True, I pointed that out to Geoff earlier.

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yes Sky Q. Now TV is 4K now though also. They are offering a new set top box/streaming box. Apparently, depending on the quality of your tv, it upscales 1080p quite well also. You will need fibre for that option though, obviously.

The new Nowtv box is 4k for apps like Netflix but nowtv programmes still stream in 720p.

That info comes from https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/sky/now-tv-smart-box

"The big catch to the Now TV Smart box is the same as with previous models and that is that Sky-based content, via the Sky Sports, Cinema and Entertainment passes, is still limited in resolution to 720p. "

[BlueAngel7]

I've been using fraps (licence version) to record all my ultraviolet collection and then encode each movie in handbrake. A bit of a hassle as you need a big hard drive for the files but handbrake reduces the sizes considerably. I'm sure there's an easier way to do it but at least it saves my collection, if and when Flixter shuts down. Another bonus is I can now play them on my Plex server and stream to my TV which I couldn't do before.

[Puffer]

Originally Posted by Porco Azzurro

Just so UK folks know, there's the Sony Pictures Store that does UV as well. Good idea to create an account there too and link it to your UV account in light of developments.

Mostly stuff that isn't available for playback in Flixster seems to be on the Sony one, and vice-versa. But you can see your collection on both.

There's also 'Kaleidescape' which seems to require their hardware for an account.

It's all a bit of a shambles. I think they should just give us all iTunes/Amazon/Google codes for our collections and be done with it.

is it possible to download films off the Sony pictures store ? Flixtser has just plain refused to allow that now.