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Old 09-04-2021, 08:26 AM   #1341
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Digital Projection INC makes some of the best consumer DLP projectors on the market. Over the years the projectors usually range in price between $10,000 to over $250,000+, depending on what model one is looking for (also most of their projectors offer the legacy Blu-ray 3D support using passive or active glasses technology). I just verified that JVC is the only projector company that offers HDR10+ with the coming soon new October 2021 LCOS models (see last post in this thread). Digital Projection INC currently only supports HDR10, HDR PQ, and HLG from some models (some models no HDR support at all). Digital Projection INC at this time does not support HDR10+ and Dolby Vision HDR. The only way to get Dolby Vision HDR from a projector is to buy a ticket to a movie encoded with Dolby Vision HDR, and then visit ones local Dolby Cinema theater or visit ones local IMAX theater. Or buy two Christie Digital projectors and create a Dolby Cinema theater or IMAX theater at home. At this time only select models of Christie Digital projectors can handle Dolby Vision HDR. But the problem is the home version of Dolby Vision HDR is not the same as the theater version, so unless the Christie projector gets a firmware update to accept the home version of Dolby Vision HDR that is used by the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray format and the 4K streaming format, one well not be able to use Dolby Vision HDR unless they also own a commercial movie theater system for the home. Movies to the theater are sent on physical hard drives, and the movies can sometimes be downloaded to the movie theaters hard drive server by secure Internet connection or encrypted satellite connection.

Digital Projection INC has a new Satellite MLS 4K DLP projector that is all laser with RGB. This new projector has a control module, light source, projector head, and fiber optic cable. However, at this time the control module does not process HDR at this time. But maybe with a firmware update the projector well be able to do at least HDR10.

https://www.digitalprojection.com/dp...satellite-mls/

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This is a awesome forum on high-end Christie projectors and other projectors that people are installing in their large home theater rooms:

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/the...hread.3155910/
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This is a awesome forum on high-end Christie projectors and other projectors that people are installing in their large home theater rooms:

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/the...hread.3155910/
$250,000 for a HT projector (9000 lumens). Nice to be rich.
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$250,000 for a HT projector (9000 lumens). Nice to be rich.
That is the entry level projector at 9,000 ANSI LUMES. They also have a 17,000 ANSI LUMES, and the top of the line 25,000 ANSI LUMES model. I would need to contact the company to get prices on the other models, since I do not see it listed online.

These new Christie projectors are reference quality and better quality then what is installed in some commercial theaters. I love the specs on these projectors. 25,000 lumes, native 4K DLP 4096 x 2160 light engine without scaling. The only projector that I know of that has absolute black levels of 0% like a OLED flat panel. True native 24Hz frame rate for movies with no need to double flash or triple flash. Frame rates between 24 to 120HZ. High frame rate 120fps with true 4K quality 3D at up to 60fps for each eye. Also can do 48Hz (24Hz for each eye) for legacy 3D. Also after 30,000 hours of use it well still have 80% of its brightness. I do not see HDR10+ or Dolby Vision HDR mentioned, but in theory it should do those HDR formats with a firmware update (that would need to be verified before one purchases a Christie projector, since only HDR10 is mentioned in the forum post).

These new Christie projectors for the home are reference quality. Would be nice to see a professional review by Widescreen Review magazine or Sound and Vision magazine.

Its good to have these Christie projectors on the market for people that want the best. One has to build a large dedicated IMAX or Dolby Cinema building on their property in order to use such a nice projector. While the average consumer purchases JVC and Sony 4K projectors ranging in price between $5,500 to $80,000. For people that are billionaires and multi-millionaires they need something to spend their money on. I am all for there being a nice selection of projectors and flat panels on the market for everyone to choose from. Over the many years in this thread I have posted information on displays that cost only $500 and also information on displays that cost $300,000+. If I was still volunteering time to maintain the list of displays that display 24p material at 24p or multiplies of 24p, then the Christie projectors would be at the top of the list as a reference display that all other displays are compared too. Dolby Cinema and IMAX theaters also use professional versions of Christie projectors.

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"The result is literally akin to OLED level contrast performance, but with super-high brightness, without OLED's brightness limitations, and none of the uniformity issues that afflict OLED, plus 12-bit color depth and approaching the full BT.2020 color gamut. Whilst also supporting up to 4K120 with 2D, Active 3D with 4K60 into each eye at high brightness with zero crosstalk (the best 3D performance), and 4K60 fullscreen two player gaming (Christie View), the Eclipse actually significantly outperforms OLED, and in fact literally everything else as well, in more ways than one."

The Christie Eclipse 4K HDR 6-DLP RGB Laser Projector is not only the best video projector in the world, it is quite literally the best video display in the world, as of right now and the foreseeable future.

It significantly outperforms not only all other projectors, but also all other video displays, across all formats, including all televisions (whether OLED, LED LCD, MicroLED or otherwise), all video walls (e.g. Sony Crystal LED, Samsung The Wall) and even the Sony BVM-HX310 Professional Master Monitor (!) which is used professionally for movies post-production and grading.

The Christie Eclipse is the new reference standard against which all other video displays should now be compared. It is quite literally the ultimate video display and with it Christie has set a benchmark of near insurmountable Everest proportions.”

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$250,000 for a HT projector (9000 lumens). Nice to be rich.

I have been in direct contact with the Christie company and the exclusive worldwide distributor known as Absolute Ultimate AV. From my communication with the company through email they were a friendly, helpful, and very professional. I did discover that the $250,000 price you mentioned is not the correct price for the Christie Eclipse projector line. According to the official September 2021 list price PDF sheet these are the official prices as of September 2021. These projectors are in high demand and back ordered for 3-4 months. So, anyone interested in placing an order well need to wait around 3-4 months before the projector arrives. They well do a site survey of oneís home theater room for a $6,500 fee which covers survey, design, and planning. Since some people might need to remodel for the direct fiber cable connection, power requirements, and might need to make their home theater room bigger. If I am reading the spec sheet correctly, the projector needs a electrical outlet that is 200-240 volts AC between 50-60Hz


Official Christie Eclipse prices as of September 2021

Eclipse 9,000 LUMENS (model SKU: CHR-ECLIPSE-9K) list price $407,999

Eclipse 17,000 LUMENS (model SKU: CHR-ECLIPSE-17K) list price $419,999

Eclipse 25,000 LUMENS (model SKU: CHR-ECLIPSE-25K) list price $464,999

Some of the lens are $22,499 like the ECLIPSE HB 1.13-1.66:1 Lens (SKU: CHR-Eclipse-HBL-1.13). There are nine different lenses to choose from.

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"Itís literally the ultimate video display and outperforms all other displays, across all formats, including OLED TVs, vidoe walls, and even the professional studio grading monitors!"


There is a new Barco Thor+ residential 6P RGB laser DLP projector that was released that has 32,000 lumens output. From my communication with the Barco distributor entry level prices for that projector start at $400,000+. Projector has native 4K light engine with HDR10. Projector can do active 3D, passive 3D, and Dolby 3D that uses color filter glasses. Ethernet connection is only 100MB and not 1GB or 10GB.

https://www.barco.com/en/residential/products/product-range/thor%20plus



Once one adds a lens to a Eclipse or Barco Thor+ projector they are up to around $500,000+ for a single projector setup. For a dual projector 3D setup instead of a single projector setup one is looking at around $1 million dollars. Once one adds 64.2 lossless surround sound speakers and other things to the large home theater room, the total price can be somewhere between $2 million to over $20+ million dollars for the Dolby Cinema theater or IMAX style theater in ones home or mansion. Building the very large home theater underground with an elevator that takes one to the underground home theater room would cost even more.

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