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Old 11-30-2018, 04:10 PM   #61
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Seemed to good to be true at that price. Oh well, now I can just wait for the inevitable trilogy set once the third film is released on UHD.
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:13 PM   #62
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Description still reads 4k Ultra HD.... might have to contact customer service ASAP!

I am saying that as I should, since I pre-ordered it.
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:17 PM   #63
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What is contacting them going to do? They can't price match a non-existant 4K 2-pack down to that price.
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Old 12-01-2018, 03:43 AM   #64
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I contacted target in a similar situation for Peter rabbit 4k. They basically credited me the difference. this is listed as uhd. Seeing the BD picture likely means this is supposed to be the BD combo pack. I bought it when it said UHD with no picture. So contacting them will hopefully save me a few bucks.

Edit : that of course means if I even feel it is worth it.
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Old 12-04-2018, 12:18 PM   #65
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The combo pack on Blu-ray has been available for years AND is still in print. I’ll give this Best Buy combo listing a try...worse case scenario I will go to my local Best Buy and return it and use the credit towards the 2 single 4K ones.
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Old 12-04-2018, 12:32 PM   #66
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I really hope they fix the bass on this one and bring it close to part 1.
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Old 12-09-2018, 03:09 PM   #67
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Best Buy website has added another 4K set of 1 and 2 (with same pictures) for 19.99 each.
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Old 12-23-2018, 09:36 AM   #68
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Seems like Best Buy exclusive steelbook will have a release date almost 2 weeks after the ordinary release, on February 3, 2019. Is this correct even though it is a Sunday?

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Old 12-24-2018, 03:35 PM   #69
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Exclusive catalog steelbooks coming out on Sunday is pretty common for Best Buy. Will likely be an endcap updating that day with movie cash skus.
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:12 AM   #70
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DISC INFO:

Disc Size: 41,895,277,498 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00800.MPLS
Length: 1:41:54.608 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 40,496,793,600 bytes
Total Bitrate: 52.98 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 37577 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020 /

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
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DTS:X Master Audio English 6553 kbps 7.1-X / 48 kHz / 6553 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
DTS Audio Italian 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Spanish 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Catalan 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Portuguese 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Czech 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Hungarian 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio Polish 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

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Presentation Graphics English 45.47 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 31.01 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 31.836 kbps
Presentation Graphics Portuguese 32.686 kbps
Presentation Graphics Czech 28.546 kbps
Presentation Graphics Hungarian 30.22 kbps
Presentation Graphics Polish 30.554 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 74.128 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 0.031 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.058 kbps
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Presentation Graphics Portuguese 0.067 kbps
Presentation Graphics Czech 0.008 kbps
Presentation Graphics Hungarian 0.048 kbps
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Wow, Universal sure splurged on these films! Not even a BD-66 and the use of higher bitrates. They didn't even get close to maxing out a BD-50!
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Old 01-10-2019, 09:01 PM   #72
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Wow, Universal sure splurged on these films! Not even a BD-66 and the use of higher bitrates. They didn't even get close to maxing out a BD-50!
I'm wondering for HTTYD 2 - did they access the original Atmos master with objects or just remix from the home video 7.1 master to DTS:X
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Old 01-10-2019, 09:28 PM   #73
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I'm wondering for HTTYD 2 - did they access the original Atmos master with objects or just remix from the home video 7.1 master to DTS:X
for Universal to lock the audio to 7.1.4 (DTS-X) and not use the Atmos mix makes my skin boil - my friend's set up is 14 speakers, oh well ... guess they were going for consistency
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:47 PM   #74
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A bass graph for this UHD disc was just posted on AVS. While there still isn't any sub-20Hz content, peak LFE output has been boosted by nearly 15dB across the board. Average output is roughly the same, which should translate to a more dynamic audio presentation and louder bass hits at normal listening levels.

(Bass graph for the first movie on UHD disc is roughly the same as the BD, so they didn't mess with perfection on that one.)

UHD: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...l#post57412996

BD: https://imgur.com/0bLYQsF
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A bass graph for this UHD disc was just posted on AVS. While there still isn't any sub-20Hz content, peak LFE output has been boosted by nearly 15dB across the board. Average output is roughly the same, which should translate to a more dynamic audio presentation and louder bass hits at normal listening levels.

(Bass graph for the first movie on UHD disc is roughly the same as the BD, so they didn't mess with perfection on that one.)

UHD: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-s...l#post57412996

BD: https://imgur.com/0bLYQsF
This is welcome news to an extent given the fact the they messed up the bass on part 2 big time. The first one was a LFE + ULF monster.
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Old 01-15-2019, 07:27 AM   #76
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Grade: A

It's the rare case when a sequel can re-capture the magic of the original without recycling the story, but How to Train Your Dragon 2 succeeds in doing just that. And not only that, but it expands upon pretty much everything that was explored in the first film. This includes family themes, growing up, coming to terms with the responsibility of becoming a leader, death, and of course, the epic fantasy dragon mythology which made the first one so unique and original. Hiccup is not a kid anymore. The story is aware of this, and it uses a more mature lens to explore all those themes, which, imo, is what makes this one such a good followup that keeps the world and characters fresh without betraying anything from the first chapter. We get to learn more about the dragons, and as the story explores this, Hiccup's and Toothless' friendship grows while being tested, forcing both of them to become a better version of themselves. That's what great stories do. They explore and expand all these themes while forcing their characters to change, interweaving all of these things seamlessly within the story.

The only thing that prevents this from getting the highest score is that the action does take a small step back in favor of the story. While that seems to be a weird thing to complain about, I only mention it because the first one incorporated both to pitch-perfection without comprising one nor the other. And while there is still plenty of action, the inevitable comparison to the first one leaves this excellent followup falling just the tiniest bit short from the original's perfect grade. It could have been much worse (just check out Disney's sequels of their classic films like Cinderella 2, or the Despicable Me sequels which turned mediocre at best). As it stands, How to Train Your Dragon 2 is just shy of perfection.



Picture: 4.5 / 5
Take everything that made the first's 4K/HDR10's encode great, add better animation and more color, and this is the result. HTTYD 2 looks excellent. In my review of the first's 4K disc, I had mentioned how its HDR was the most aggressive I had seen from any animation film so far (in a good way). This one tops it thanks to a more complex animation that has more subtleties and detail. The world feels more 'full' now thanks to all those textures and improved physics. Be it the extra detail on clothing or structures like ships and dragon's skin, the HDR transfer makes it look better and allows it to shine to perhaps its full potential now. The wider color palette also comes more into play now as the cinematography and objects make use of a more varied color spectrum. Hiccup mentions how dragons changed the lives of the people in his home, and this is reflected due to the more colorful community where he lives. Not only from the dragons' skins, which now look deeper and more vivid allowing them to stand out from the browns, greys, and whites of their environment, but also from the decorations and vivid paints which the Vikings seem to have used and applied around their houses and recreational spaces. Blacks are deep with plenty of gradations and shadow detail (just like the first's) and bright highlights, both direct and specular, look crisp and detailed with no clipping that I could see. Compression is also top notch as I did not spot any anomalies at all. Were it not for the fact that this is limited to the fine detail from the source, this would have received a perfect score.



Audio: 4.75 / 5
Not quite demo material like the first's lossless DTS-X mix, but very darn close. The upgraded audio (from plain 7.1) takes full advantage of the immersive format, using all of the potential available thanks to the top layer. Right from the beginning, you experience 3D audio as the sheep are trying to evade the dragons while they're being used to score points during the game. You immediately hear the dragons flying above them, panning from side to side and front to back while the sheep look up at them. This holds up for the rest of the film, with the top layer staying seamlessly integrated with the rest of the channels. The surrounds and fronts are also in constant use. Be it people cheering or fighting, dragons scuttling or flying low, or just simple things like air whooshing around the characters. Music and dialogue stay crystal clear throughout. Now for the one small negative: the use of the low-end is not as aggressive as the first's. I was wondering if I was being paranoid (seeing as the use of the low-end in the first's was so wide and hefty), but after looking at the bass graphs (in the post above this one), it does confirm that unlike the first one, this one does not dig as deep into the low-end as the first one does. That's not to say that it is lacking or is weak. It's actually used very well, but it is hard not to notice a change after watching the first one so recently. In fact, the bass was actually improved from the standard blu-ray's plain 7.1 mix. By comparing the graphs (in the previous post) you can see that on this encode the bass is actually louder. So, while it is just shy of perfection as well, it is actually an improvement in all aspects, including more immersion as well as a more palpable and hefty low-end.


Given the pretty substantial upgrade on both audio (better bass and great use of 3D audio) and picture (thanks to a better and more complex animation), as well as the quality of the film itself, it is hard not to recommend getting it, even if the audio isn't quite demo-material.

Please do not use the pictures to judge quality. They were taken with my phone's camera.

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So even increasing the levels by 15db hasn't improved the overall audio quality mainly the LFE output. Frustrating as the first one is.amongst the top 15 bass films easily.

They did the same with KFP2 after offering an excellent audio mix with KFP1.
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So even increasing the levels by 15db hasn't improved the overall audio quality mainly the LFE output. Frustrating as the first one is.amongst the top 15 bass films easily.

They did the same with KFP2 after offering an excellent audio mix with KFP1.
I just wrote that it did improve it. Just not to the point that it made it as aggressive as the first’s. And that’s mainly due to the mix not going below 20Hz, when the first one did go below that. But again, compared to the standard blu-ray it is an improvement. Did you actually read my review?:

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...That's not to say that it is lacking or is weak. It's actually used very well, but it is hard not to notice a change after watching the first one so recently. In fact, the bass was actually improved from the standard blu-ray's plain 7.1 mix. By comparing the graphs (in the previous post) you can see that on this encode the bass is actually louder. So, while it is just shy of perfection as well, it is actually an improvement in all aspects, including more immersion as well as a more palpable and hefty low-end. ...
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Exclusive catalog steelbooks coming out on Sunday is pretty common for Best Buy. Will likely be an endcap updating that day with movie cash skus.
I'm not sure it's ever happened like this, though, has it? I know there have been exclusive steelbooks pop up on a Sunday when there was no other recent release. But, this is a title making it's debut on a new format - I can't recall a catalog release on a new format having a staggered release where the "standard" release comes out and the exclusive arrives a couple of weeks later. Best Buy diminishes the desirability of that steelbook if people pick up the standard version unaware that a steelbook release is arriving a couple of weeks later.

And an endcap updating on a Sunday? haha.... I'm sure if you were involved, that would happen. Not at my Best Buy. A Sunday steelbook release just means I have to send someone to the back to fetch it on a Sunday rather than a Tuesday.
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