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Old 03-22-2023, 06:54 PM   #261
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On, it's own, this adaptation of All Quiet is solid, with excellent production values and strong performances from Felix Kammerer and Albrecht Schuch. But I do think in overall aesthetic its too adjacent to (the superior) 1917, and the significant changes made from the novel, in particular removing the homefront sequences and adding in the political subplot, make this a thematic retread of Paths of Glory.

As such, it's still very much worth a watch - but the 1930 Lewis Milestone version is better (and an incredible technical accomplishment that still holds up today).
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Old 03-23-2023, 12:45 AM   #262
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Since this was a Netflix film, can someone explain why it was able to get a physical release so soon after it's initial release on Netflix?
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Old 03-23-2023, 01:38 AM   #263
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Since this was a Netflix film, can someone explain why it was able to get a physical release so soon after it's initial release on Netflix?
It's not really a "Netflix film", they had no involvement in the production, only distribution. They acquired the rights before production began.
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Old 03-23-2023, 09:40 AM   #264
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Disc Size: 99,368,949,749 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.7.6.1

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00000.MPLS
Length: 2:26:57.791 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 91,838,416,896 bytes
Total Bitrate: 83.32 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

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MPEG-H HEVC Video 66773 kbps 2160p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 104 kbps (0.16%) 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / Dolby Vision MEL / BT.2020

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Old 03-23-2023, 03:38 PM   #265
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I don't care about the book or whatever adaptation it is. I see the picture and audio quality is rated top notch here but the movie itself has a bad rating so question to those who have seen this movie, is it worth a blind buy? I know nothing about this movie but the trailer looks amazing.
I think the main reason for the movie to be so polarizing among many Germans is the fact that it eschews much of the content of the novel which focused on the change in Paul's attitude toward the war. While there are bits and pieces of that in this movie, it isn't a central focus of the narrative as it was in the book. You see, the novel is considered among the most important anti-war stories of all time, and was subsequently banned once the Nazi regime took power. It is now required reading in German schools. The movie still maintains its anti-war theme, but it's more tangential and doesn't feel like the central driving force of it. Particularly as so many key elements of the story (and previous film adaptations) have been removed.

All of that said, I found it to be an engaging movie, which was well-structured and beautifully shot. So for someone with no frame of reference with the source material, you'll likely find a lot to like here. But it is worth understanding the context of the reason for its controversy as it is based on one of the most important novels of the 20th century, and makes some rather strong deviations from that source.
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Old 03-23-2023, 06:05 PM   #266
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It's not really a "Netflix film", they had no involvement in the production, only distribution. They acquired the rights before production began.
Still slightly confused. So if they are not involved in production then it's not their film to license out even though they have worldwide rights to it?
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Old 03-23-2023, 06:13 PM   #267
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It's not really a "Netflix film", they had no involvement in the production, only distribution. They acquired the rights before production began.
That's typically how Netflix works, on all their "productions," since Netflix isn't a traditional studio that develops projects in that way. It's 100% a Netflix film.
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Old 03-23-2023, 06:28 PM   #268
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Old 03-23-2023, 06:39 PM   #269
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Any which way we're very happy to get a quality 4K UHD Blu disc from a Netflix flick.
...Of a top-notch winning flick of several awards from the top best.
To Die 4 ... Cinematography, Music Score, Best of the Best Film ... A Must in any serious Film's Collections. This is no kid's stuff.

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Old 03-23-2023, 06:49 PM   #270
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I absolutely felt strong character development and was emotionally connecting to the lead and the other supporting actors in his squadron.

I absolutely felt the anti-war message of the film.

I can respect that folks didn't, as I do think the filmmakers artistic lean was to take a minimalist approach.

Imho this film is just as inspired by The Thin Red Line (or Malick in general) as it is by Paths of Glory. I'd say some of its design, and for me, some of its success is as a response to 1917. For me this is clearly the better film.

All of that being said, I haven't read the book and I also haven't seen the original film. Which obviously effects our judgment in either direction.

I can't wait for the day that I have a nice atmos system to experience the audio properly! Ill be grabbing the disc soon, as I'd love to see for myself how it compares to that pretty stunning Neflix stream.
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Old 03-23-2023, 06:57 PM   #271
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That's typically how Netflix works, on all their "productions," since Netflix isn't a traditional studio that develops projects in that way. It's 100% a Netflix film.
Most likely the producers only sold streaming rights to Netflix while retaining physical media rights. CODA made BD & 4K in Italy & Japan -- but nowhere else -- because its producers sold its physical media rights there before Apple bought the remaining rights worldwide.
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All of that said, I found it to be an engaging movie, which was well-structured and beautifully shot. So for someone with no frame of reference with the source material, you'll likely find a lot to like here. But it is worth understanding the context of the reason for its controversy as it is based on one of the most important novels of the 20th century, and makes some rather strong deviations from that source.
I never read the book, nor did I see the first adaptation. I went into this blindly and was blow away by it. It's not often I buy a physical copy of a movie I can stream, but this is a Day 1.

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Old 03-23-2023, 08:07 PM   #274
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The movie had a reported budget of $20M.
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I guess both releases (MPI & Capelight) share the exact same 4K disc content ?
Our Blu-ray.com indicates a same bitrate of 66,88 Mbps - which partly answers.
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Colour grading looking different between Netflix and disc?
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Colour grading looking different between Netflix and disc?
Probably on account of the added HDR and DV layer?
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Probably on account of the added HDR and DV layer?
I think Netflix stream is already Dolby Vision. The disc has DV MEL.
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I think Netflix stream is already Dolby Vision. The disc has DV MEL.
I was just making a guess, I don't know a thing about 4K streaming...
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Colour grading looking different between Netflix and disc?
Maybe you should wait until you have seen the disc and don't judge by looking at caps?
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