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Old 12-21-2021, 07:47 PM   #2061
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Old 12-21-2021, 07:58 PM   #2063
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Forgive me... you forgot to mention in your first post that you are always right in bold letters.
You're forgiven. Figured that was implied.

There's no comparison, substituting or compensating for 80x100 feet with 120 inches. Never ever will be. Fact!
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You're forgiven. Figured that was implied.

There's no comparison, substituting or compensating for 80x100 feet with 120 inches. Never ever will be. Fact!
Size isn't everything.
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Went out to see Spider-man the other day and regretted it. Modern audiences can't seem to control themselves with their whooping and cheering. I hate noisy audiences. I'm going to resist the urge in the future and wait to stream. I have two projector set-ups that are both suitably large enough for that theater experience, even though they are a little lacking on the audio side. I couldn't care less about corona virus and variants. Let it thin the herd.
lmao you've never had "the Marvel experience" before?

the audience laughs at the jokes, cheers at the big moments.. and remains quiet during the rest. not a big problem.
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But Mikey will your 83" OLED give you the same experience? Unless you have like 30 speakers at home running off a multitude of amps with like a 4 thousand dollar + recliner setup it wont be the same experience. I doubt what I am going to do with my setup will come close to being the same experience. 120" Screen UST Projector, 6 Atmos Speakers, 6 Sides, 2 Front, 2 rear, 2 Sub, 1 center will emulate the same experience. I get your point about it being a close experience. But short of dropping 50k for build and audio I dont think itll be the same.
Well - of course its not exactly the same. The Cinemark theaters near me dont have the best PQ or AQ though. Size matters but once you get used to infinite contrast(OLED) the picture quality starts to trump the quantity in many ways. Audio is also pretty good at home these days but I get your point.

However - we also have to take into account the numerous issues with the theater experience which are NOT all good. You know what I speak of. So, again, I hear you as well: In a premium theater with all the best of everything gear-wise & a well controlled, smaller audience? Sure, thats the bomb! But, we just dont get that in 99% of the theaters we visit.

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You're right. It's not the same. When I watch at home, I don't have to be in front of my TV at a certain time, drive around for a parking spot, deal with crying babies/talkers/loud eaters/cellphone users/dim projector bulbs/distorted audio, I can use the bathroom whenever I like and not miss a second of the movie, I can wear whatever is comfortable, I can cuddle on the couch with my wife/dogs/cats...

It's a completely different experience.
There are many positives for watching at home. I dont agree with the cuddling stuff. Theres a time and place for that, LOL. . Otherwise, yeah, you got it.
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lmao you've never had "the Marvel experience" before?

the audience laughs at the jokes, cheers at the big moments.. and remains quiet during the rest. not a big problem.

The only other noisy Marvel moment I experienced was Captain America catching Thor's hammer for the first time. It's stupid.
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Old 12-21-2021, 08:41 PM   #2069
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He also gave the movie one star, which I'm sure wasn't a bias at all. I'm picturing him in a cheering theater, arms crossed, pouting.
No, but I was rolling my eyes. The one star was unfair of me. I actually give it two stars, but went with one to try to bring some small amount of balance to reality. It's nowhere near 5 stars.
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Old 12-21-2021, 08:56 PM   #2070
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I recently had an opportunity to spend sometime tinkering with a few higher end OLEDS at an A/V store. I didn't have my usual calibration discs, but I was able get a few away from the eye searing showroom floor settings to the point where I can see the benefits of the newer tech.
I know I'm in the minority (what else is new), but aside from size , I still prefer the look of a front projected setup for my HT.
I'm sure someone will soon come up with a 120" or larger OLED TV, but for my preferred viewing of movies (mostly older fare shot in film), I'd still feel like I was watching TV.
My only other viewing material in my HT is hockey and while I'm sure that the OLED could make that look better, I wouldn't sacrifice what I've achieved for movies.
If much of my viewing consisted of closeups of bumble bees on colourful flowers or slow motion shots of water drops into bowls of different coloured liquids then I may feel differently.
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Old 12-21-2021, 10:11 PM   #2071
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Went out to see Spider-man the other day and regretted it. Modern audiences can't seem to control themselves with their whooping and cheering. I hate noisy audiences. I'm going to resist the urge in the future and wait to stream. I have two projector set-ups that are both suitably large enough for that theater experience, even though they are a little lacking on the audio side. I couldn't care less about corona virus and variants. Let it thin the herd.
Do you have the same problem when watching live sports or theatrical plays? Shoot, ever attend a kidsí graduation, recital, or talent show.
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Do you have the same problem when watching live sports or theatrical plays? Shoot, ever attend a kidsí graduation, recital, or talent show.
Having played in many recitals I would be incredibly annoyed if someone cheered in the middle of a piece, I think most performers would. Sporting events and graduations aren't comparable events afaic.
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Fair enough.. I'd insert a Roseanna Roseannadana NEVERMIND gif here but I'm too old to figure out how to do this on my phone... and you're too young to get the reference..

So I'll simply shake my fist at you kids and yell at you to GET OFF MY LAWN!
Lol too young? I'll insert a Jane you ignorant slut gif if I can find it.
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Fair enough.. I'd insert a Roseanna Roseannadana NEVERMIND gif here but I'm too old to figure out how to do this on my phone...
You're thinking of Gilda's earlier SNL character, Emily Litella:

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No, but I was rolling my eyes. The one star was unfair of me. I actually give it two stars, but went with one to try to bring some small amount of balance to reality. It's nowhere near 5 stars.
I'm glad you're here to tell the 99% audience score and A+ cinema score, that the guy crying about audiences having positive reactions to a movie, he is the one who is right. Us peons are so glad that the one one star review is there to bring us down to your "reality".
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. Us peons are so glad that the one one star review is there to bring us down to your "reality".
Well at least you know your place.
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I recently had an opportunity to spend sometime tinkering with a few higher end OLEDS at an A/V store. I didn't have my usual calibration discs, but I was able get a few away from the eye searing showroom floor settings to the point where I can see the benefits of the newer tech.
I know I'm in the minority (what else is new), but aside from size , I still prefer the look of a front projected setup for my HT.
I'm sure someone will soon come up with a 120" or larger OLED TV, but for my preferred viewing of movies (mostly older fare shot in film), I'd still feel like I was watching TV.
My only other viewing material in my HT is hockey and while I'm sure that the OLED could make that look better, I wouldn't sacrifice what I've achieved for movies.
If much of my viewing consisted of closeups of bumble bees on colourful flowers or slow motion shots of water drops into bowls of different coloured liquids then I may feel differently.
Iíd argue that the only things that look good on OLED are bumble bee closeups and such. Pretty much everything looks amazing. Contrast and black levels are the foundation of a quality video image. This is a fact. So, the tech that gets this perfect or close to it is clearly ahead of the rest. Projectors have come a long way and in a man cave with the proper lighting they are great for movies. But thatís about it. Also, most of us donít have a totally separate theater room and therefore need a complete solution. OLED is king and has been for a while for this arrangement. That wonít change until the "next best thing" comes along.

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Old 12-22-2021, 12:28 PM   #2078
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lmao you've never had "the Marvel experience" before?

the audience laughs at the jokes, cheers at the big moments.. and remains quiet during the rest. not a big problem.
Yeah, at theaters I'm usually like that detective in Someone to Watch Over Me: "All you beautiful people shut the **** up." But the MCU is a different creature, especially opening night. I live for those Endgame-level crowd reactions.
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Iíd argue that the only things that look good on OLED are bumble bee closeups and such. Pretty much everything looks amazing. Contrast and black levels are the foundation of a quality video image. This is a fact. So, the tech that gets this perfect or close to it is clearly ahead of the rest. Projectors have come a long way and in a man cave with the proper lighting they are great for movies. But thatís about it. Also, most of us donít have a totally separate theater room and therefore need a complete solution. OLED is king and has been for a while for this arrangement. That wonít change until the "next best thing" comes along.

Absolutely agree about contrast and blacks...
As I said, I know I'm in the minority about my preference for the look of FP over OLED. Setting aside size, and trying as best I can in less than ideal circumstances to rid the units I've played with of their hyper realistic look on the showroom floor, the picture just looks less "organically filmlike" to me. I realize that no one can climb inside my head and understand what I mean by that.
The two discs I played with in the store were THE SHINING and THE DEERHUNTER. These two discs bring tears to my eyes on my setup. While they looked great on the OLEDs, they still looked like TV compared to film. Yes, the blacks were more inky just above "crush" and the colours very distinctive below "pop"...I still prefer the look in my setup.
I've never quite understood why and just chalked it up to the idea that although I love this hobby, I'm just not a videophile..
But your post gives me a better understanding.
I am very fortunate to have a completely dedicated room painted completely black. I think this compensates for my lower end projector. I've never seen an OLED in such an environment...
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