Who has been here since the format war, and are you surprised by how heated it got? - Page 4 - Blu-ray Forum

Sky_Captain · 02-02-2015, 10:44 PM

God, I feel so nostalgic. *sniff*

onyxbfly · 02-03-2015, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dvdmike

Wot? Gladiator came out on bd only, and the fault lay at Universal's door

DOH! I stand corrected. Must have been thinking bout a diff tittle.

reanimator · 02-03-2015, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by onyxbfly

Must have been thinking bout a diff tittle.

Maybe APOLLO 13? The screencaps for the HD-DVD look much better than the BD in current release.

bruceames · 02-03-2015, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I do have to disagree a little about HTF. While it was more of a middle ground, there were some obvious bias with the moderators for HD DVD. Then I heard they were given free HD DVD players by Toshiba. lol

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Well, it was more balanced than AVS at any rate.

I remember all the forums (except this one of course) having a majority of members (I would guess 60/40) who were pro-HD DVD. It was rather odd and ironic since Blu-ray had most of the industry support (and of course the PS3 which was the real difference).

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Yes, AVS was terrible! It's funny how dead their software forum is now.

All the software forums are relatively dead compared to this one. AVS more than others (HTF and DVDTalk get some activity still because they have such a strong group of regulars who have been around since the early DVD days).
People just gravitated to this one, I think partly due to the name and also because it has such an amazing database for everything BLu-ray. It created a snowball effect, IMO.

RickWJ324 · 02-03-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by reanimator

Maybe APOLLO 13? The screencaps for the HD-DVD look much better than the BD in current release.

There were a few HD-DVD releases that reported to look superior to blu. Another one is The Thing.

slimdude · 02-03-2015, 02:54 PM

A coworker had purchased a HD-DVD Player, at the exact time when Blu-ray prevailed. The poor thing didn't even know, there was a war going on between HD-DVD and blu-ray. So he ended up with a brand new, obsolete HD-DVD player! He couldn't return it because, the 30 day return/ exchange policy had exceeded.

Dylan34 · 02-03-2015, 03:25 PM

I officially became a member of this site last year, but I've been visiting it since 2007. I don't know why I didn't sign up back then. Anyway, I was around during the format war and like so many as first, purchased an HD-DVD player. Stand alone players were cheaper and they were always offering free titles. I believe I got 5 just for purchasing a player. I ended up going purple like 4 months later when I bought a PS3. That was my first blu-ray player. I remember I got Spider-Man 3 for free with it.

HeavyHitter · 02-03-2015, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I’m informed by others that it is a new era

, as apparently this article was even posted on their Home page….http://www.avsforum.com/forum/39-net...hed-cloud.html

Ha, yep, that's imagic. This is their "newswriter" who said he wants Blu-ray to die and claims there is virtually no difference between Blu and streaming, and no difference between lossless vs lossy.

He also said last year UHD Blu would never happen - and amirm jumped in to support that prediction not surprisingly.

Geoff D · 02-03-2015, 04:45 PM

What, amir's still around?

HeavyHitter · 02-03-2015, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

What, amir's still around?

He popped up there last year.

AnamorphicWidescreen · 02-03-2015, 05:11 PM

Hey - wasn't planning on getting an HD or Blu player at all back in the 200X's since I wasn't convinced the format was that much better than regular DVD (and it wasn't really, on the old CRT I had at the time) - though, I finally caved & bought my first Blu player in late 2012 - and it's one of my all-time best & favorite purchases.

However, I do remember the HD/Blu format war to some extent - I used to frequent the Digitalbits.com site, and that was a big topic of discussion back in the late 200X's. I remember reading that some HD supporters were actually getting so passionate about the format that they posted a lot of negative comments about people who were supporting Blu-ray (and possibly vice-versa) - note this was anecdotal, since I didn't actually see evidence of this....

Penton-Man · 02-03-2015, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

He popped up there last year.

From the grave?
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...952#post626952

HeavyHitter · 02-03-2015, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

From the grave?
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...952#post626952

Yes...and ironically, he's posting in the thread entitled, "Dishonesty of Sighted Listening Tests - by Sean Olive".

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/91-aud...-olive-17.html

BozQ · 02-03-2015, 08:29 PM

I was a HD DVD supporter during the format wars. I wasn't particularly too impressed with the first wave of Blu-ray releases. Many of them were 25GB Single Layer discs, compared to HD DVD 30GB. Videos on Blu-ray were encoded in rubbish MPEG-2 and Audio was just a measly Dolby Digital 640kbps.

HD DVD, at some point, did everything better. Videos were encoded in VC-1 and Audio were at least encoded in Dolby Digital Plus, if not Dolby TrueHD.

I remember Transformers was a very important release. Blu-ray owners were eagerly anticipating the Blu-ray release when Paramount drops this bomb that they were going to be HD DVD exclusive. I could feel the sinking feeling right after that.

Of course, after Toshiba gave up the fight, Blu-ray was much better after that.

HD Goofnut · 02-03-2015, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RickWJ324

There were a few HD-DVD releases that reported to look superior to blu. Another one is The Thing.

As well as U-571, The Mummy, The Mummy Returns, and Downfall.

Optimus · 02-03-2015, 11:43 PM

Has anyone burned a HD-DVD movie to a blank Blu-ay disc?

Geoff D · 02-04-2015, 12:26 AM

Yes. No, I'm not gonna explain how because it's 1:25am here and I'm off to bed.

crazyBLUE · 02-04-2015, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OptimusL

Has anyone burned a HD-DVD movie to a blank Blu-ay disc?

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yes. No, I'm not gonna explain how because it's 1:25am here and I'm off to bed.

And we are not even going there for it will magically disappear real fast

Penton-Man · 02-04-2015, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Ha, yep, that's imagic. This is their "newswriter" who said he wants Blu-ray to die and claims there is virtually no difference between Blu and streaming, and no difference between lossless vs lossy.

He also said last year UHD Blu would never happen

I visited their forum about two years ago to check out what was up. He, or the other guy (the one with the white beard), attempted to school me in D-Cinema and DCPs. Then one of the other guys from yet another red forum showed up (whom I'm told allegedly like some other mods, received one of those *complimentary* HD DVD players back in-the-day) to bug me.

It was amusing

…I mean, I think it’s evident I have a limited background, compared to them, in regards to theatrical deliverables…see this page - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ma#post9575271

So I guess, I really should have known my place….compared to reporters, and just stuck with easier topics like color encoding systems and color grading…https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...m#post10239360 <-to elaborate a bit more, after the automated process, the P3 color ->709 trim involves tweaking the brightness, hue saturation and angle….and I think I can mentally handle those lesser concepts.

Penton-Man · 02-04-2015, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

As well as...Downfall.

02-03-2015, 02:54 PM	#66
slimdude Banned Member since:Apr 2009 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews:8	A coworker had purchased a HD-DVD Player, at the exact time when Blu-ray prevailed. The poor thing didn't even know, there was a war going on between HD-DVD and blu-ray. So he ended up with a brand new, obsolete HD-DVD player! He couldn't return it because, the 30 day return/ exchange policy had exceeded. Last edited by slimdude; 02-05-2015 at 06:04 AM.

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02-02-2015, 10:44 PM	#61
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	God, I feel so nostalgic. sniff

02-03-2015, 03:25 PM	#67
Dylan34 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2014 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:529 DVD collection:138	I officially became a member of this site last year, but I've been visiting it since 2007. I don't know why I didn't sign up back then. Anyway, I was around during the format war and like so many as first, purchased an HD-DVD player. Stand alone players were cheaper and they were always offering free titles. I believe I got 5 just for purchasing a player. I ended up going purple like 4 months later when I bought a PS3. That was my first blu-ray player. I remember I got Spider-Man 3 for free with it.

02-03-2015, 04:45 PM	#69
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1079 Blu-ray collection:2382 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	What, amir's still around?

02-03-2015, 05:11 PM	#71
AnamorphicWidescreen Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2014	Hey - wasn't planning on getting an HD or Blu player at all back in the 200X's since I wasn't convinced the format was that much better than regular DVD (and it wasn't really, on the old CRT I had at the time) - though, I finally caved & bought my first Blu player in late 2012 - and it's one of my all-time best & favorite purchases. However, I do remember the HD/Blu format war to some extent - I used to frequent the Digitalbits.com site, and that was a big topic of discussion back in the late 200X's. I remember reading that some HD supporters were actually getting so passionate about the format that they posted a lot of negative comments about people who were supporting Blu-ray (and possibly vice-versa) - note this was anecdotal, since I didn't actually see evidence of this....

02-03-2015, 08:29 PM	#74
BozQ Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Singapore 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:-	I was a HD DVD supporter during the format wars. I wasn't particularly too impressed with the first wave of Blu-ray releases. Many of them were 25GB Single Layer discs, compared to HD DVD 30GB. Videos on Blu-ray were encoded in rubbish MPEG-2 and Audio was just a measly Dolby Digital 640kbps. HD DVD, at some point, did everything better. Videos were encoded in VC-1 and Audio were at least encoded in Dolby Digital Plus, if not Dolby TrueHD. I remember Transformers was a very important release. Blu-ray owners were eagerly anticipating the Blu-ray release when Paramount drops this bomb that they were going to be HD DVD exclusive. I could feel the sinking feeling right after that. Of course, after Toshiba gave up the fight, Blu-ray was much better after that.

02-03-2015, 11:43 PM	#76
Optimus Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Apr 2014 Location:Australia 4K collection:356 Blu-ray collection:743 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:4	Has anyone burned a HD-DVD movie to a blank Blu-ay disc?

02-04-2015, 12:26 AM	#77
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1079 Blu-ray collection:2382 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Yes. No, I'm not gonna explain how because it's 1:25am here and I'm off to bed.

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