Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread - Page 42 - Blu-ray Forum

Rocket Richard · 05-11-2016, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tele1962

Lets all live and let live guys...life is to short. But Blu Ray rules OK.

Wait till UHD get’s a hold of you...

Steedeel · 05-11-2016, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tob

You are wasting your time responding to that Richard fellow steedeel.

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Originally Posted by tele1962

Lets all live and let live guys...life is to short. But Blu Ray rules OK.

Johnny Vinyl, you have brought us together.

alchav21 · 05-12-2016, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

Bluray can also go up. Some BBC discs for example are much higher than 30mbps I believe.

You're right, Blu-rays Average at 30Mbps, but can go up. I do have some bad news for you, Cinema has gone Digital. There are a few die hard Film left, but most are Digital on Hard Drives. So the next step here is Streaming from Servers.

Steedeel · 05-12-2016, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by alchav21

You're right, Blu-rays Average at 30Mbps, but can go up. I do have some bad news for you, Cinema has gone Digital. There are a few die hard Film left, but most are Digital on Hard Drives. So the next step here is Streaming from Servers.

I have news for you. Film is making a comeback. Pretty sure the next Star Wars is going to be on film for a start.

Jumpman · 05-12-2016, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

I have news for you. Film is making a comeback. Pretty sure the next Star Wars is going to be on film for a start.

Shooting on film is few and far between these days. It's not making a comeback per se...it's just certain filmmakers who are hardcore about film will continue to shoot on it, if it's still available.

But the vast majority of films are shot on digital these days. There's no denying that.

veritas · 05-12-2016, 08:28 AM

I have pretty much come to the point where I refuse to buy digital movies and I wont buy a physical movie by itself unless it has a extreme discount. The best combination is when a blu ray includes a digital copy. That way I feel like I get portability, ownership and security. Both sides have valid benefits so it would be best if the studios stopped trying to create a death battle between the 2 mediums and simply accepted that they do well together (at least that is the only form of distribution I support with my money).

Steedeel · 05-12-2016, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

Shooting on film is few and far between these days. It's not making a comeback per se...it's just certain filmmakers who are hardcore about film will continue to shoot on it, if it's still available.

But the vast majority of films are shot on digital these days. There's no denying that.

Why am I hearing more and more directors planning to shoot on film then?

Rocket Richard · 05-12-2016, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

I have news for you. Film is making a comeback. Pretty sure the next Star Wars is going to be on film for a start.

Damn, were gonna have to abandon our Blu-ray players and buy Theater projectors now...

tiger_qc · 05-12-2016, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

I have news for you. Film is making a comeback. Pretty sure the next Star Wars is going to be on film for a start.

The next Star Wars on film?
I don't think so.

quirkmanly · 05-12-2016, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger_qc

The next Star Wars on film?
I don't think so.

Episode IX will be.

alchav21 · 05-12-2016, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

I have news for you. Film is making a comeback. Pretty sure the next Star Wars is going to be on film for a start.

Like it was brought out, there are a few Die Hard Film Directors, but 80% of the Theatres are Digital Projector now.

Steedeel · 05-12-2016, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by alchav21

Like it was brought out, there are a few Die Hard Film Directors, but 80% of the Theatres are Digital Projector now.

I know, it's crap isn't it?

Steedeel · 05-12-2016, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by quirkmanly

Episode IX will be.

That what I read. My memory is not great.

Steedeel · 05-12-2016, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

Shooting on film is few and far between these days. It's not making a comeback per se...it's just certain filmmakers who are hardcore about film will continue to shoot on it, if it's still available.

But the vast majority of films are shot on digital these days. There's no denying that.

Yes but they were talking about film being wiped out altogether.

echopulse · 05-12-2016, 03:48 PM

Star Wars will be shot on film, then scanned, edited, and delivered to theaters on hard drives. Most theaters don't even have film projectors anymore.

Steedeel · 05-12-2016, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by echopulse

Star Wars will be shot on film, then scanned, edited, and delivered to theaters on hard drives. Most theaters don't even have film projectors anymore.

We live in harsh times.

darkknightman · 05-12-2016, 04:18 PM

I still buy discs but not that many anymore. I don't want to invest in media yet again as far as 4K goes. I have been around for the entire run of physical media dating back to vinyl discs and collections just become overbearing and eventually tossed into boxes or thrown away. Digital is fine for me. I own my personal essentials on disc in case of a prolonged internet outage. We don't have to like it, but things are trending towards digital. The individuals in this forum love to collect and the absolute best quality is paramount, but they represent the minority. Most people don't collect movies anymore and prefer the convenience of streaming or digital ownership and are not that critical when it comes to the visual or audio quality of their movies. It is personally depressing to see stores slowly cutting back on their physical media sections, but it is where things are heading.

Steedeel · 05-12-2016, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by darkknightman

I still buy discs but not that many anymore. I don't want to invest in media yet again as far as 4K goes. I have been around for the entire run of physical media dating back to vinyl discs and collections just become overbearing and eventually tossed into boxes or thrown away. Digital is fine for me. I own my personal essentials on disc in case of a prolonged internet outage. We don't have to like it, but things are trending towards digital. The individuals in this forum love to collect and the absolute best quality is paramount, but they represent the minority. Most people don't collect movies anymore and prefer the convenience of streaming or digital ownership and are not that critical when it comes to the visual or audio quality of their movies. It is personally depressing to see stores slowly cutting back on their physical media sections, but it is where things are heading.

All stores are suffering because of sites like Amazon. You are reading too much into that. Having said that, one of our most iconic stores has made a dramatic comeback (HMV) and last time I was in, there was row after row of Blu-Rays. Maybe it's a USA thing.

Also, did you see the numbers Star Wars did? That's a lot for a supposed majority who don't collect movies, don't you think?

If indeed, you are right though, that is bad news regardless of which camp you are in. A rental market is not great.

Jumpman · 05-12-2016, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yes but they were talking about film being wiped out altogether.

For archival purposes, film will never go away. But in terms of how it was used vs. how it's used today, most directors just shoot on digital.

ArmyOfDarknessAW · 05-12-2016, 05:06 PM

It is kind of scary to think about movies in the future only being digital and not on disc. A movie can theoretically disappear from existence. The game/demo PT on PlayStation was taken down and even if you downloaded it in the past you can't now. When whatever PS4's have the game on it die or are wiped the game will forever be wiped. Sure you can say it was just a demo, but it shows the possibility of it happening again. I can go buy a copy of Pong on eBay, but in the future there may be movies that disappear for good.

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05-12-2016, 08:28 AM	#826
veritas Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2015 4K collection:160 Blu-ray collection:1267 Trading Score:8	I have pretty much come to the point where I refuse to buy digital movies and I wont buy a physical movie by itself unless it has a extreme discount. The best combination is when a blu ray includes a digital copy. That way I feel like I get portability, ownership and security. Both sides have valid benefits so it would be best if the studios stopped trying to create a death battle between the 2 mediums and simply accepted that they do well together (at least that is the only form of distribution I support with my money).

05-12-2016, 03:48 PM	#835
echopulse Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2013 MA collection:8 Trading Score:3	Star Wars will be shot on film, then scanned, edited, and delivered to theaters on hard drives. Most theaters don't even have film projectors anymore.

05-12-2016, 04:18 PM	#837
darkknightman Expert Member Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Mass Trading Score:115	I still buy discs but not that many anymore. I don't want to invest in media yet again as far as 4K goes. I have been around for the entire run of physical media dating back to vinyl discs and collections just become overbearing and eventually tossed into boxes or thrown away. Digital is fine for me. I own my personal essentials on disc in case of a prolonged internet outage. We don't have to like it, but things are trending towards digital. The individuals in this forum love to collect and the absolute best quality is paramount, but they represent the minority. Most people don't collect movies anymore and prefer the convenience of streaming or digital ownership and are not that critical when it comes to the visual or audio quality of their movies. It is personally depressing to see stores slowly cutting back on their physical media sections, but it is where things are heading.

05-12-2016, 05:06 PM	#840
ArmyOfDarknessAW Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Moosic, PA Home Theater Gallery:21 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:64	It is kind of scary to think about movies in the future only being digital and not on disc. A movie can theoretically disappear from existence. The game/demo PT on PlayStation was taken down and even if you downloaded it in the past you can't now. When whatever PS4's have the game on it die or are wiped the game will forever be wiped. Sure you can say it was just a demo, but it shows the possibility of it happening again. I can go buy a copy of Pong on eBay, but in the future there may be movies that disappear for good.

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