Doctor Who: The Collection Season 12 • Tom Baker Season 1 - Limited Edition

[Fellowwhovianusa]

Greetings,
Long time supporter of Drwho, I also had bad disks in the USA region free version but BBC did thankfully send replacement disks 3 weeks ago!
What I am wondering is I have read alot of people in the UK and Australia were not satisfied with the cardboard packaging because of space efficiency? I would love just even the packaging with the foldout and amazing booklet and I will put the region 1 discs in place and gladly send anyone that does this the US packaging which they can put the UK disks in...
I really really just want the limited edition packaging not worried about the disks does anybody wanna help a fellow whovian out?

[oddbox83]

Does anyone know if places like Amazon.com are selling the corrected US discs now? I give up on the BBC reissuing it in the UK.

[-shadow-]

I still don't even have the 50Hz release (be it UK or Ausie), I can't believe how difficult the BBC is being with this release even after they did that partial reprint for the replacement discs...

[JonVic80]

I have just contacted the BBC about this and they have said there are no plans for a Season 12 re-release. Even in the face of numerous requests and obvious loss of profit from those not buying any re-released set, you have to consider all of those not buying any of the future releases because they won't have a complete collection.

It's getting to the point of stubborn madness by them IMO. What are they doing? Even the chap that answered my email said that they keep asking the DVD sales team this question and they say there are no plans to replicate future stock. It's clearly an issue and loads of people are requesting a re-release.

I stalled on buying the release when it first came out because of the total muck-up with the discs. I decided to not spend my money on faulty discs and to wait until the issues had been resolved. I didn't know it would be like this. So, I feel like due to the faulty initial release I (like many others) now have to do without.

It might only be a Doctor Who Bluray release but the entire situation actually makes me quite angry. The demand is there, do the decent thing BBC and give back to the fans that make the show. I'm fed up with everything being 'limited edition' and having a mad scramble to buy everything. Just release something so everyone can enjoy it.

I think I will just have to pass now on all of these and watch them released over the next few years. Not much point to spend a fortune to have an incomplete set on a shelf. It's a really pathetic situation.

[Fellowwhovianusa]

I am very upset by this news. I have supported the releases and my dad as well through generations.

I also found the Australian release available but they will not ship to the united states regardless of price.

I am also sad no one is willing to part with the Australian or European packaging with the fold out etc which is all I wanted.. I'm not worried about the discs already have them in USA.

I have learned to preorder everything on Amazon UK and Amazon. They want us to pay $300 or more for the out of print season 12 UK/Australian Bluray which is what they are going for now on Ebay by money hoarders.

Sad sad for BBC.

[Si Parallel Universe]

We should all write to BBC Enterprises and point out scalpers are trying to sting people for £300

Maybe this will swing it ?

[Fellowwhovianusa]

Originally Posted by Si Parallel Universe

We should all write to BBC Enterprises and point out scalpers are trying to sting people for £300

Maybe this will swing it ?

I second this idea I mean it's great the other tom baker set is going to be available worldwide preordered both versions and the macra terror and peter davidson but rerelease the beginning of Tom baker world wide it would only make sense! Wonder what tom baker would think about this he resides in the UK does he not?

[Dougling]

Originally Posted by Fellowwhovianusa

I am also sad no one is willing to part with the Australian or European packaging with the fold out etc which is all I wanted.. I'm not worried about the discs already have them in USA.

You might have better luck a little further down the line to be honest, although I'm a bit doubtful. People don't tend to get rid of these kinds of releases quickly as they're not likely to be blind buys and they're geared towards collectors. On top of that, now we've heard there aren't going to be any UK re-releases, people will probably keep buying the limited editions regardless of their thoughts on packaging just to keep the collection looking uniform.

Originally Posted by Fellowwhovianusa

I have learned to preorder everything on Amazon UK and Amazon. They want us to pay $300 or more for the out of print season 12 UK/Australian Bluray which is what they are going for now on Ebay by money hoarders.

To be fair, it's not Amazon asking for those extortionate prices, it's the people using Amazon Marketplace to sell items. Standard scalpers. They're the same ones you're seeing listed on eBay, guaranteed.

[2-J]

I think they are not reissuing it, in order to get the people who have already purchased the set to ‘buy into’ the idea of getting the whole limited edition collection of sets.

People have said the bbc are losing money by not reissuing the set. But they might make more money overall by keeping the sets limited. It might even help to make the less popular seasons, and hence the collection overall, viable.

[Fellowwhovianusa]

Originally Posted by Dougling

You might have better luck a little further down the line to be honest, although I'm a bit doubtful. People don't tend to get rid of these kinds of releases quickly as they're not likely to be blind buys and they're geared towards collectors. On top of that, now we've heard there aren't going to be any UK re-releases, people will probably keep buying the limited editions regardless of their thoughts on packaging just to keep the collection looking uniform.

To be fair, it's not Amazon asking for those extortionate prices, it's the people using Amazon Marketplace to sell items. Standard scalpers. They're the same ones you're seeing listed on eBay, guaranteed.

I also heard that as well that BBC moved their physical media pressing unit to the states so who knows what is going to occur but I love the fact we have seen the animation though the original video of the lost releases obviously would be better, but why advertise the new peter Davidson bluray set which is fantastic I have both versions and promote the new tom baker bluray when there were others that never got to get the first one with the beginning tom baker episodes? The couch scenes with surviving actors still alive I thought was great!


I am sorry I wrote that wrong I meant sellers on Ebay selling those for that price, but I did apparently find the Australian ones it is just a shame they will not ship outside Australia and New Zealand.

[JonVic80]

I think it is unlikely we will see a physical release of any of these again. I am convinced that season 12 is gone for good.

The future is streaming services, not physical media and the BBC know that - their BBC store was a recognition of that. Of course being the BBC they got it all wrong and that closed down, but it shows where their thinking is at.

These discs are a final pet-project for the restoration team and not a genuine commercial project, if it were they would press more discs.

Very sad all round.

[Fellowwhovianusa]

For those in Australia and New Zealand
Donedirtcheapdvd.com.au claims to have the set for 74.95
Doctor Who Season 12 The Collection Tom Baker Bluray
J86NBSKD promotional code for 5 percent off as well.
I would be curious if someone finds this to be real and would be awesome to have it in their hands and if so if they could order one for me and I will pay double that price to get my hands on it

[-shadow-]

It states region B, but I honestly doubt it is. And I'm not taking the chance of getting the US version when my hardware fully supports 50Hz.

[Todd Fredericks]

Originally Posted by JonVic80

I think it is unlikely we will see a physical release of any of these again. I am convinced that season 12 is gone for good.

The future is streaming services, not physical media and the BBC know that - their BBC store was a recognition of that. Of course being the BBC they got it all wrong and that closed down, but it shows where their thinking is at.

These discs are a final pet-project for the restoration team and not a genuine commercial project, if it were they would press more discs.

Very sad all round.

On my side of the speculation coin, I suspect this will be released again. Money was spent and if there is demand eventually it will be out there. Maybe the issues with bad discs came into play with this. Maybe eventually full Blu-ray Doctor sets will come out.

Who knows?

Only the BBC I guess.......

[Fellowwhovianusa]

Originally Posted by -shadow-

It states region B, but I honestly doubt it is. And I'm not taking the chance of getting the US version when my hardware fully supports 50Hz.

That's what confused me I looked at the other releases I have a bluray region free player but many do not and the bluray region 1 was region free so region 2 I figured was the set I know bluray region coding is different cause I have power of the daleks bluray from uk, if anything it would be worth a try!

[JonVic80]

For those of you that understand all the technical aspects of the US version what would be the best fallback option for those that will never be able to get the UK physical release?

I am wondering if the US Bluray playing on a UK system would be best or buying the Amazon Video streaming version which I assume would be PAL?

I know you can get the PAL DVD's but assuming you want all the extra content those two options seem to be the only viable ones.

Any opinions?

[Fellowwhovianusa]

Get a region free bluray player then region will not matter , it is just until now UK had the best packaging, now that USA has it who know what will happen..they may lock it up in a basement w spider webs and their vaults of missing recordings lol. Pun intended.
Mine is a Samsung BD-H5900 made in 2014 and works well on every format, I cannot vouch for any other model .
Nstc and Pal Bluray A-C regions and DVD regions 1-6. They are on amazon under $200 which is pretty good price for all the features! This is just my opinion though and other models may be cheaper and still do what you need but I encourage you to do your own research. I like collecting the limited edition packaging and steel books etc no matter what region just like the end of the world vhs set nstc to pal just as well as other limited editions from the clamshell cases to postcards... but all doctor who! Good luck on your quest sir!

[hariseldon]

Originally Posted by JonVic80

For those of you that understand all the technical aspects of the US version what would be the best fallback option for those that will never be able to get the UK physical release?

I am wondering if the US Bluray playing on a UK system would be best or buying the Amazon Video streaming version which I assume would be PAL?

I know you can get the PAL DVD's but assuming you want all the extra content those two options seem to be the only viable ones.

Any opinions?

The US Bluray would be a better option. The 60i (or 60i to 50i converted image) would almost certainly be better than a streamed version and esp Amazon's sad excuse of streaming. I'm not 100% sure, but most Amazon versions are limited if not missing the extras entirely

If amazon video is actually HD then it's not PAL though it's probably 50hz of some quality. If it's SD/PAL then you're better off getting the DVDs

[thecooldud]

They'll re-release it eventually, but probably not until the 'limited edition' collection is complete. They want people paying up straight away for all of them, fearful that they'll never ger the chance again. If they re-released or even admitted intending to re-release 12, they wouldn't have that fear with the rest.
It's quite despicable, but then, it's the modern BBC. We should expect nothing less.

[JonVic80]

Originally Posted by hariseldon

The US Bluray would be a better option. The 60i (or 60i to 50i converted image) would almost certainly be better than a streamed version and esp Amazon's sad excuse of streaming. I'm not 100% sure, but most Amazon versions are limited if not missing the extras entirely

If amazon video is actually HD then it's not PAL though it's probably 50hz of some quality. If it's SD/PAL then you're better off getting the DVDs

Thanks for your reply. I have decided to just pull the trigger and go for the US season 12 Bluray. More than annoying that the packaging will never match the other limited edition ones which will always look weird on the shelf but wanted to grab a Bluray copy before these vanish in to the void for all eternity! Not cheap either at £65 - ouch.

The Amazon version is SD, so you are right it will be worse than DVD. From what I hear the US Bluray is region-free. Hope so as I have a PS4 and apparently they aren't region-free. The fun isn't over either as now I will have to source US replacement discs in the UK.

The BBC are really in my bad books....